Re: [POHG] the whole country has dementia hollywoodius

2004-06-12 Thread Chris Burford
- Original Message - From: "alex scott-samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:24 PM Subject: [POHG] [spiritof1848] the whole country has dementia hollywoodius > --- Begin Forwarded Message --- > Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 17:31:23 -0400 > From: "Th

Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, June 12, 2004 An Oil Enigma: Production Falls Even as Reserves Rise By ALEX BERENSON or six consecutive years, ChevronTexaco has had good news for anyone worried that the world is running out of oil: the company has found more oil and natural gas than it has produced. Over that time, C

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread sartesian
Here we go again: "I read it in the (New York Times, Newsweek, National Geographic, the National Enquirer, All of the Above); I saw it on TV; I heard (Colin Campbell, Mike Davis, Homer Simpson, All of the Above) say it. Ergo Mark Jones was right." Amazing. In the very midst of the exposure

An afterword on the new imperialism by David Harvey

2004-06-12 Thread Louis Proyect
David Harvey THE NEW IMPERIALISM Afterword to Foreign Language Editions (clip) The question of the exact state of global oil supplies and reserves remains as murky as ever. In my initial text, I stated, for example, that oil reserves in Canada are running down. If, however, the difficult-to-extr

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Devine, James
Hey, don't knock the NATIONAL ENQUIRER! they recently revealed one of the deepest and darkest secrets of official Washington, to wit that Dick Cheney is a robot. jd -Original Message- From: sartesian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 6/12/2004 10:00 AM

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Michael Perelman
Proven reserves are very unreliable. That point seems to be key to the new Out of Gas book. He asserts that the production curve is a lagged reserves curve. Just as we cannot predict the future based on a couple of data points of GDP or unemployment, the NYT article is only a suggestion of a pro

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/12/2004 9:00:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I read it in the (New York Times, Newsweek, National Geographic, theNational Enquirer,  All of the Above); I saw it on TV;  I heard (ColinCampbell, Mike Davis, Homer Simpson, All of the Above) say it.  Ergo

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Devine, James
By the way, in the article posted to pen-l, Mike Davis didn't say that we were running into the Malthus/Ricardo stationary state driven by the absolute scarcity of oil (it's running out! it's running out! we went over H's peak!). Rather, he made it clear that he _assumed_ this and then derived c

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Carrol Cox
Michael Perelman wrote: > > Proven reserves are very unreliable. That point seems to be key to the new Out of > Gas book. He asserts that the production curve is a lagged reserves curve. > > Just as we cannot predict the future based on a couple of data points of GDP or > unemployment, the NYT ar

Kerry, Raytheon, and the "Active Denial System"

2004-06-12 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
"Kerry, Raytheon, and the "Active Denial System": . The posting is about John Kerry's commitment to investment in "directed energy weapons," one of John Kerry's home-state interests Raytheon's "Active Denial System" (an exa

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Michael Perelman
I have to disagree. Such knowledge is not sufficient. It may not be necessary, but understanding how material conditions evolve will certainly give activists a valuable edge. On Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 10:32:35AM -0500, Carrol Cox wrote: > > In what way does knowledge of the future of oil contribut

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread sartesian
I am in general not known for agreeing with others, but hey in an infinite universe The point is, if "predicative" "science" is inherently unreliable, then clearly we need to look at the function of such predictions, and that function is ideological, to obscure the origins of economic, social,

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Paul Zarembka
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Carrol Cox wrote: > The material facts regarding oil depletion, global warming, mercury > poisoning of the seas, have _never_ been a central issue except in the > thought of those who cannot or who refuse to think politically. And > thinking politically involves NOT "What shou

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Louis Proyect
Devine, James wrote: By the way, in the article posted to pen-l, Mike Davis didn't say that we were running into the Malthus/Ricardo stationary state driven by the absolute scarcity of oil (it's running out! it's running out! we went over H's peak!). Rather, he made it clear that he _assumed_ th

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Louis Proyect
Carrol Cox wrote: The material facts regarding oil depletion, global warming, mercury poisoning of the seas, have _never_ been a central issue except in the thought of those who cannot or who refuse to think politically. And thinking politically involves NOT "What should the government(s) do?" But

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread sartesian
You know what I like about baseball? Almost everything, but most of all that anybody can play the game, once social impediments are removed. There is no biological, natural restriction on learning and playing the game. All the restrictions are social in nature and exist to be overthrown. The fir

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Carrol Cox
Michael Perelman wrote: > > I have to disagree. Such knowledge is not sufficient. It may not be necessary, but > understanding how material conditions evolve will certainly give activists a valuable > edge. > It already has given activists an edge -- my point was that nothing could be added to th

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread sartesian
- Original Message - From: "Carrol Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In other words, our time and energy needs to be spent in turning greens > red, not in the hopeless task of bringing more people into the general > movement through green agitation. The knowledge we had by

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Doug Henwood
Radicals trying to parse bourgeois discourse around oil now should remember that a lot of it is infected by market sentiment, and with oil up 250% over the last five years, market sentiment is very frothy. (Sentiment follows prices, it doesn't lead them.) A lot of the recent gains were driven by sp

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Louis Proyect
Carrol Cox wrote: In other words, our time and energy needs to be spent in turning greens red, not in the hopeless task of bringing more people into the general movement through green agitation. The knowledge we had by 1980 of the ongoing damage to our living space by capitalist progress was suffic

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread sartesian
- Original Message - From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Further confirmation of Mark Jones > I suspect we're closer to a price peak than further sustained increases. > > Doug __ Frigh

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Michael Perelman
A week or so ago, Ian Masters interviewed Fadel Gheit, Vice President for Oil and Gas Research with Oppenheimer Inc. He was explaining how many $$ each international flash point added to the price of oil. Several dollars each for Nigeria, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia & Iraq. I think that it was on th

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: A week or so ago, Ian Masters interviewed Fadel Gheit, Vice President for Oil and Gas Research with Oppenheimer Inc. He was explaining how many $$ each international flash point added to the price of oil. Several dollars each for Nigeria, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia & Iraq. I

Re: wikipedia?

2004-06-12 Thread Calvin Ostrum
Sabri Oncu wrote: Of all the answers to my question: What does _objective_ political economy mean? I liked Michael's the best: Something different from the objectionable political economy currently in vogue. Consequently, I will rephrase it as: Objective political economy is that political economy

Moon Over Washington

2004-06-12 Thread Craven, Jim
Title: Message Moon Over Washington Why are some of the capital’s most influential power players hanging out with a bizarre Korean billionaire who claims to be the Messiah? by John Gorenfeld, Contributor 6.09.04 Should Americans be concerned that on March 23rd a bipartisan group of Congressm

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Michael Perelman wrote: A week or so ago, Ian Masters interviewed Fadel Gheit, Vice President for Oil and Gas Research with Oppenheimer Inc. He was explaining how many $$ each international flash point added to the price of oil. Several dollars each for Nigeria, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia & Iraq. I

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Max B. Sawicky
I beg your pardon, but I predict that the next time there's a supply bottleneck or cartel tightening, people will start talking about Hubbert's Peak again. mbs the big problem is that because no-one can predict the future, it's very easy for superficial observers to confuse a short-term shorta

KR: Dozens of missing Iraqis believed to be lost in Abu Ghraib

2004-06-12 Thread Michael Pollak
[Like a right wing nightmare of a big government police state] [NB: even the coalition official admits this off the record] [BTW, it's worth reading all the way through for its documentary cum short story value] URL: http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/8891610.htm Poste