On Mon, 12 Sep 1994 10:55:58 -0700, Blair Sandler writes:
> Alternative theory of the firm: enterprises seek to secure access
> to the conditions of existence of exploitation. (The capitalist
> fundamental class process, in the language of Resnick and Wolff.
> See their 1987 book _Knowledge and C
I think Micheal Perelman is right. Posting questions and concerns on on
current pressing issues is an important way to promote the value<1> of
paying more attention to these pressing issues. I've posted questions on
the current propsects in South Africa, so now I'm posting a concern.
The con
Apologies. The references to Gen.Sys. Theoery were an answer to a direct
query from Mike Lebowitz.
BTW the Role of Formal Modelling strand has gone offline, so there is one
esoteric strand which has submerged. But on the critical question of RSA
economic reforms, can't someone on the eastern si
Mike Lebowitz recently queried (regarding my previous post):
CAN YOU SUGGEST A NICE SIMPLE INTRODUCTION TO GENERAL SYSTEMS THEORY
WHICH WOULD COVER THE AREAS NOTED ABOVE? IT IS UNCANNY HOW CLOSE ALL
OF THIS SOUNDS TO MY UNDERSTANDING OF MARX'S VIEW OF ORGANIC SYSTEMS.
The one or two chapte
One kernal which was thrown out in this corporate profits discussion
is that it is even conventionally supposed to be a way to capture rents.
Doesn't this have something to do with South Africa's diamond mines?
As to whether corporate income taxes are on owners or workers
[14 paragraphs, 3 pages]
This is excerpted from the August 1992 newsletter of the Fernand Braudel
Center. All of the section which this is taken from seems to have some
relevance to the fact & value discussion (at least, presuming that the
interest in the discussion is its relevance to how economi
[12 par. 1.5< <2 pages] Continuation, delete if bored
On Mon, 27 Jun 1994 08:35:29 -0700, Jim Devine responded to my post Monday
morning:
> This morning, Bruce McFarling advocated a theory in which:
> "system structure constrains the system processes
> which take place, while it is system proces
On Fri, 24 Jun 1994 15:08:59 -0700, Jim Devine wrote, edited to
remove the specifics of the JRoemer debate with Gil),
>[T]he Walrasian system ... is one version of the "equilibrium
> economics" that I referred to ("Dynamic" Walrasian models
> are non-existent, since time does not truly e
Over and Out +1
[7 paragraphs, ~1.3 pages, and one prediction down the tubes]
On Wed, 22 Jun 1994 09:13:53 -0700, Jim Devine quotes Herman Daly:
> Herman Daly states, "No one denies that the distinction between *is*
> and *ought* is an elementary rule of clear thinking. To say *is*
> when we shou
[7 paragraphs, ~1.3 pages]
On Wed, 22 Jun 1994 10:51:33 -0700, Gil Skillman said (edited to remove it
from the JR debate itself):
> [A]ttempting to judge formal analysis by the same standards as
> historical analysis ... doesn't work. The approaches are fundamentally
> different and yield differ
On Fri, 24 Jun 1994, Michael J. Brun wrote:
> The logical conclusion, if we believe everybody, is that the
> overall distribution of wealth will never change much, but
> every now and then there will be wars to determine who gets
> what place in the distribution. These wars are inefficient;
> but
[12 paragraphs ~1.6 pages]
As I hoped, the Fact v Value discussion has led us back to the question of
how to do economics, as Barkley Rosser remarked:
>> Well, this gets us back to the problem of theory.
>> can one use an axiomatic system without "believing" the
>> axioms (say, neoclassical
Apology in advance: I continue to be interested in the F&V thread, but
doubt that at this point I can do anything more than repeat myself. Which
is why I said that I was "over and out". However, Pellissippi gets Internet
access through two intermediate steps (TECNET and Bitnet), and somewhere
alo
Pardon my ignorance: which direction is postward?
Bruce McFarling, Pellissippi State
On Thu, 23 Jun 1994 07:16:11 -0700, Doug Henwood responds to Mike Meerpol's
post on Wed, 22 Jun 1994. Meerpol reamrked on the ANC plan:
>> to increase employment AND solve some of the pressing social needs AT
>> THE SAME TIME [using] extensive public works employing the unemployed
>> to build hous
I will note that I use the term over and out in the Citizen's Band
radio sense of turning the channle over to other users and shutting up.
I by no means wished to suggest that the Fact and Value thread should shut
down, just that this was my last post on it.
But then if this is at leas
Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:04:34 -0700, Steven Zahniser seriously underrepresents
Bill Clinton's committment to fundamental change. Steven writes:
> Yesterday I received a form letter from Bill Clinton himself in which he
> expressed his commitment to ... restoring Major League Baseball's four
> division
The first few lines of my earlier message was somehow stripped it
(truncation in reverse? who knows) The first paragraph should have read:
-
First, Many thanks to Steve and Bill for the info ("facts"?) on the impact
of the Aussie electoral system and party politics. It definitely adds
On Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:17:32 -0700, Alan G. Isaac wrote
> I will offer a couple heuristic arguments to try to clarify further what
> I mean by there being a fact/value distinction that anyone entering a
> discourse must acknowledge. One way of pointing to this is to note that
> we do not attempt
Perhaps I should mention that the reason I am interested in this question is
to understand the issues with the federation of some of the micro-states of
the Eastern Caribbean which is at present a possibility. They will be faced
with the same constitutional question that Australia was: how do y
[10 paragraphs, ~1.5 pages]
On Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:17:32 -0700 Alan G. Isaac wrote,
>I sparked a few reactions with my observation:"No one can really
> dispute the fact/value distinction. To attempt to do so is to accept it."
> ... For reasons that I think I am beginning to understand -- poss
To Phil O'Hara, Bill Mitchell and all the Aussies on the net:
What effect do the Australian electoral rules have on the opporunities for
emergence of progressive political parties?
Virtually,
Bruce McFarling, Pellissippi State
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:54:50 -0700, Gil Skillman wrote:
> Test case: did the Holocaust (a quintessential "social fact") occur
> or not? Let's not quibble about details; does anyone on this net
> think it was *not* the case that millions of Jews (as well as
> millions of others) were extermina
[6 paragraphs]
I wrote Peter Bratsis offline for a clarification of his post, and I think
that the following excerpt adds something to the discussion. On Wed, 15 Jun
1994 20:11:40 -0500 (EST), he wrote:
> Bruce;
> The logic of invention that I mentioned in the logic of how structuralism
> estab
[5-6 paragraphs]
On Sat, 18 Jun 1994 07:41:56 -0700, Doug Henwood quoted my argument:
>> This argument does not assume that the labor abundance will last
>> forever. Because the argument says that you should push technologies
>> that are appropriate, given the alternatives facing the agricul
On Fri, 10 Jun 1994 07:17:01 -0700, Doug Henwood wrote, regarding the
question of Worl Bank funding of large dams in India:
> The anti-damsters have an important point here, but I've never heard any
> views on a positive development model to replace them. Are traditional
> ways of life to be pre
On Tue, 07 Jun 1994 14:26:30 -0700 Paul Cockshott wrote,
>Alan Issac asks if price competition might not be the
> motive force behind innovation.
>My objection to the term price competition is that it is a
> superficial concept drawn from a problematic that focusses on the
> interaction b
On Tue, 07 Jun 1994 17:28:39 -0700, Sam Lanfranco writes,
> If one uses concentration ratios, rather than numbers of players
> on the field, as a measure of market concentration, the Oligopoly
> "done come", as they used to say about the train where I grew up.
Of course, these questions c
On Tue, 07 Jun 1994 16:54:07 -0700, Andrew W. Hagen wrote,
> On Tue, 7 Jun 1994 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> But of course, Novell just bought WordPerfect and Borland's Quattro
>> Pro spreadsheet, so oligopoly simply be moving from hardware to
>> software.
>
> Novell might be attempting to im
I've had some success with using in five of the core chapters
of Jane Jacob's classic _The Life and Death of Great American Cities_ (but
it might be "Death and Life"). Jacobs is a thought provoking read for
students while it is written well enough to be an easy read.
Virtually,
Bruce
Sam Lanfranco writes:
> The interesting thing about PEN-L, in contrast to most LISTSERVs, is that
> it operates with two or three specific threads at the same time, plus to
> small flare-ups and individual postings. It is like watching TV with an
> overly active channel zapper on the remote contro
On, Tue, 31 May 1994 14:56:01 -0700, Paul Cockshott, Paul C. writes:
> I would dispute that the prices of personal computers have fallen
> markedly. I bought the first personal computer to become available
> in this country, the Nascom I, which cost 199 pounds sterling in
> 1978. Modern PCs retail
On Wed, 01 Jun 1994 08:42:11 -0700, Michael Perelman asked, via the subject
header, if this is pen-l.
> HOW TO MAKE VIRTUAL COMMUNITIES WORK
>Mike Godwin of the Electronic Frontier Foundation offers nine
> principles for making virtual communities work. Use software that
> promotes good
On Mon, 30 May 1994 13:24:45 -0700, Paul C. argued that:
> Computers are cheaper now because their value is lower than
> 5 years ago. The process of production of any manufactured article
> is a process of information transmission in which information and
> energy are used to cause a material syst
On Tue 24 May 1994 08:53:07 -0700, Barkley writes:
> 3) I think too much has been made of the "law of one price"
> on all sides of this debate. Neri's response is reasonable from
> the Sraffa side. On the GE side, Gil pointed in the direction of
> an out, simply defining a multi-priced comm
On Thu, 26 May 1994 20:53:14 -0700, Jason Hecht writes:
> I'm surprised that Gene and Gil cannot find evidence of price
> competition in the US economy. Let me see, the computer I'm writing
> on cost me about 5 grand six years ago and now I can by a notebook
> with an "order of magnitude" improv
On Wed, 25 May 1994 13:45:28 -0700 Doug Henwood said:
>> Conversely, if you use the opponent's language, hasn't s/he won half
>> the battle? Rhetoric is constructed by the victors.
>>
On Thu, 26 May 1994, Alan G. Isaac wrote:
> Doug, Isn't this suggestion--I cannot quite call it an argument--
> ba
ERRATUM:
> However, differentiability is the issue I raise, nor did I view it as the
However, differentiability is NOT the issue I raise, nor did I view it as
Apologies, I am still getting used to working on a VAX.
Virtually,
Bruce McFarling
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ERRATUM:
An effort at "reasoned argument".
Gil writes that I have questioned the issue of differentiability, even
though he has already resolved it.
(1) I do not dispute the General Equilibrium positions can be
modelled formally without marginal mathematical analysis
(2) I do d
One wrapper to put around a tax on stock sales is "market
stabilization". In this approach, one taxes stock market sales of stocks
which have not been held for a set period of time.
This approach is in part the capitalists selling the rope to
hang themselves with: its attraction
GE, Sraffa, and Evolution: Multiple closures and PCMC
I have been going through the GE/Sraffa thread of this March,
which center on a series of exchanges between Gil Skillman and Ajit
Sinha. My interest in the Sraffian model of production of stuff,
by means of same, derives from an interest
I have been going through the GE/Sraffa thread of this March,
which are centered on an series of exchanges between Gil Skillman
and Ajit Sinha. My interest in the Sraffian model of production of
stuff, by means of same, derives from an interest in evolutionary
models of the economy as a comp
GE, Sraffa and Evolution: The Logic of Uniform Prices
I have been going through the GE/Sraffa thread of this March,
which are centered on an series of exchanges between Gil Skillman
and Ajit Sinha. My interest in the Sraffian model of production of
stuff, by means of same, derives from an in
Two suggestions:
(1) The PEN-L archives are accessible by gopher, but it is not
always obvious how to sign up to the list. An archival entry at the top of
each month stating how to subscribe onto and get off of pen-l would improve
the subscriber base.
(2) Enigmatic subject headi
45 matches
Mail list logo
