d person, because that belittles them in your opinion.
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hich supports their usage of the word schizophreniz, in fact capitalism more broadly is moving away from just language in telecommunications. In other words, the production of an understanding of a folk psychology through traditional means, through writing, will now be seen as a barrier to liberation because the production technique cannot compete with what computing multi-media produces. That is more thought like communications.
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ge is justified and important about the re-rise of socio-biology under the name evolutionary psychology. Your remarks are as sloppy as you accuse Mine of being.
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d roundly in a fight. Practice for the real thing, practice for the fun of it too.
No place to run, no place hide,
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derstand such things, by using
Freudian thinking. That is a very serious criticism of psychological
theory.
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hare a room with. There is nothing about that which is necessary and sufficient.
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ny political tendency. The concept, lunatic, is fundamentally
anti-disbility. It doesn't take much to uncover that.
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he political creativeness of Churchill.
By definition those sorts of moods are very intense, but unlike the brief
word, bullshit, real feelings are much more complex than the word of an
expletive imply.
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Title: Re: [PEN-L:19164] Genderization
Greetings Economists,
Sam Pawlett observes,
Sam,
I still don't understand the hostility towards essentialism.
Essentialism is just the idea that an object has a property that it
cannot do without and still be the same object. You might say that an
esse
in trouble explaining human minds.
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bove example shows with insights about what stroke sometimes does, we have the materialist sources to understand much deeper what is going on in the system that oppresses workers, we need to bring that in to our movement.
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human connectionist structures which are not language bound. These then are totalizing, in the sense that global telecommunications physically demonstrate.
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Ps for a good read on the physical properties of vision I recommend: "Vision Science", Palmer, Bradfor
ns, everyone knows what constitutes an instance of each of their referents. Language is fixed. Meaning is certain. Santa Claus comes down the chimney at midnight on December 24.
Doyle
Just a book I picked up to read about how a liberal views current political structure within the interior of the U.S.
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ts. Going beyond the gross scale Folk Psychology of "tit for
tat".
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gh evidence in neuroscience to suggest that feelings
are the key element in conflict structure.
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ly say Marxist relige to denigrate particular Marxist.
Or more precisely we don't understand how producing the ToM and JA can be
accomplished in such a way that performs the socially necessary work a
worker must do to relige a social connection to explanations of unknown
material phenomenon.
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understanding about what brainwork is involved, and to in
my view resolve the underlying problem that surely does arise when "truth"
and orthodoxy appear. In particular allows one to understand a great deal
about the development of Information Technology in so far as a kind of labor
process is necessary to produce explanation.
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ibuted geographically what are the communication problems to be
overcome, and the possibilities for social structure that have prior to
"never being alone" lay dormant?
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February 7, 2002
You Can Surf, but You Can't Hide
By LISA GUERNSEY
MAKING a phone call has
arxism, one must rationalize Marxism
exactly as JKS advocates. That is absurd in scientific terms.
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daily
life, etc. This is not producing a god, but producing ToM appropriate to a
workers daily needs. Where Christians talk about a soul, an avatar produces
real necessary brain work that a human being needs.
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ing a realistic human mind, but the basic
idea of collective strength is not lost on people who strive to unite the
working class.
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rouplets don't
work. We might also use the military social structure analogy, the business
organization comparison, and the family model as well to explain why these
groups are what they are which all might show properties like a Secular
Religion Marxism. What makes the phrase "Secular Religion Marxism"
materially correct or "true"?
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tools.
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February 11, 2002
Digital Sensor Is Said to Match Quality of Film
By JOHN MARKOFF New York Times
SAN FRANCISCO, Feb. 10 - If Carver Mead is right, photographic film is an
endangered species.
Dr. Mead, who is 67, was a pioneer of the modern computer chip industry in
the 1970&#
cing power over unaided
speech. Personal interaction without a machine interface would come to be
where the persons meaning as an identity lacks certainty and substance
compared to the meaning encompassed in the database.
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February 13, 2002
Microsoft Putting Its Muscle Behind Web Pr
27;accuse! Our purpose is to build unity of
the whole class. Long live the Socialist movement!
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hen people do come out with an attitude that the left can
no longer accept, that their human capacity to learn from mistakes is what
comes first for us. Not condemnation and removal but building a strong base
that really addresses what we stand for and succeeds.
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as a means to gauge how we connect. We
understand racism through that avenue better than the weasily words that
hide racist attitudes. We don't want that connection process degraded so
that someone doesn't get what they need. We want a process that serves the
commons of resources we all need in terms of "face".
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Greetings Economists,
Distributed computing through the grid is a reference to the super
computing networks laid down, and being extended to the public. Note the
different competing business interests listed below.
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February 19, 2002
Grid Project to Wed Web Services
o the
religious believers, then understanding how the mind produces explanation
provides a more practical route to understanding the truth of the assertion.
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PS Tom is a wiseacre in starting this thread, and I recognize the difference
in seriousness of his message and my own. Still the point he made is worthy
of my attention in a serious manner anyway.
uch a null place grammatical structure
akin to constructing a new mathematical theorem might have value if it can
be shown to have practical utility. So I would ask what is the utility?
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Tom's remaining remarks are pasted below for easy reference.
Tom
A 17th century
explanations where needed that meet the social bond needs of the
human being in that moment. That guarantor then is literally the social
bond being guaranteed when needed.
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class together. The binding process
appears like religing except that we restrict bonding to explaining human
minds, and to seek to uncover and provide the needs realistically met of the
working class.
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evable when other children point out their own lack of belief. Etc.
Fertile ground for Marxist to advance the case of materialism.
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SIGNOFF PEN-L
rtunities to analyze what people work with in their daily lives.
Where workers aren't served well as disabled people usually aren't, what
does it take to strengthen the working class. Especially given many ways in
which wearable computing offers new ways of organizing workers we might ask
what sort of organizing questions could be better answered.
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ould
willingly fight for this vision.
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laced by common
collective work that takes advantage of principles of computing that serves
our brain work best.
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ld
increase by far the ability to convey the reality of great social moments
for millions of people at once. These tools lend themselves to the social
cohesion necessary for building socialist movements by increasing solidarity
related to embodiment and interactivity.
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ination of communications. Via
the depth of what email can provide.
See how this is working for romance below.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/21/fashion/21PERS.html?ist6=&pagewanted=print
&position=top
April 21, 2002
Young, Single and Dating at Hyperspeed
By WARREN ST. JOH
PS, Economists,
Here are some interesting supportive information concerning television and
telephone information differences. Two areas, first paper from Cambridge
University press on visual aspects of seeing motion, secondly, collaborative
tools in scientific communications.
In regard to seei
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Alas, there is silence on these issues.
Paul
Then Paul responds to Doyle's reply,
Flaco:
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Doyle Saylor wrote:
Greetings Everyone,
Paul goes on about flops per second in regard to the limitations of
speed and ot
needs to be about labeling capitalist economists as about
disabled people parallels associations etc., and that is why this is a
problem. In particular this does point at understanding how to communicate
and areas in science that might yield insight and social reform or in my
view give the w
f our contemporaries whose talents and
skills as writers make their voice heard by many.
I just want to praise this effort.
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lam would return this remark by saying as they
have done toward Polytheism that moral truth unites the believers. We argue
that workers ought to unite. We seek then to find a realistic way to attach
feelings to intellectual content from the working class.
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Greetings Economists,
Rob Schaap writes at length but says this toward the
end,
Rob,
'Morality' has here come a long way from *The German Ideology*, where it was
but an epiphenomenon, and not to be treated as a material revolutionary
force.
It is no longer what 'is', but an 'ought-to-be' - an '
purpose of work groups
in distributed spaces?
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velopment of information technology that disabled people have
rights and that Mr. Proyect intellectually fails to grasp. It is not right
to grasp at an anti-disabled stereotype to characterize this list.
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I will be careful about bringing other peoples behavior into the discussion.
Doyle
Greetings Economists,
Margaret Coleman briefly remarks,
The unemployment rate fell by a tenth last month, instead of going up as
everyone predicted. This is despite all the tech closings and lay
offs. Anyone want to guess why? I think that the layoffs this time are
amongst the white collar, ski
ion can be absorbed and used
efficiently. Increase of "knowledge" production results from the need to
add more and more "joint attention" to databases in order to make human
networks function productively. This is forced upon business in part
because Knowledge Assets are th
Hello Economists,
Rob Schaap writes me in reply about where I got the figure of 700
billion for the Telecom debts. Sorry can't make the exact quote. I put it
in an email to friends about a month ago. I recollect I saw it in the Lex
column in the Financial Times. But I assume it can be look
anything happens after death. Make life good for
us through social change, and materialist thinking.
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Greetings Economists,
Maggie Coleman writes,
The unemployment rate fell by a tenth last month, instead of going up as
everyone predicted. This is despite all the tech closings and lay
offs. Anyone want to guess why? I think that the layoffs this time are
amongst the white collar, skilled worke
of networked human knowledge production. This is where a great deal of
economic analysis can be focused in terms of class structure.
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roduction of knowledge in capitalism that is coming up from IT (Information
Technology).
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A Unique Knowledge Management Methodology to Measure Relative Efficiency and
Productivity in Workflow Processes.
by Peter Childress
Enterprise Strategic Planning & Emerging Technologi
o
with visual mouses that take advantage of retinal tracking devices. I can't
raise the url in which I found that tonight to forward here, but I'll get
the information for the list.
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.
n) into
the human "joint attention" system as identified by amongst others
Tomasello. That this points at the solution to KU measurement in the sense
that we understand the basic "joint attention" structure and how to use it
to find productive knowledge.
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Greetings Economists,
Ravi Maholtra sends something via Louis Proyect to Pen-l,
Ravi,
Pataki's appointees on this council, which can change the
Buiding Code without direct legislative approval of the final changes --
are moving towards reducing these modest accessibility requirements from
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n word processes that
accompany human speech production hence leading to an acknowledgement that
face to face communications have unexplored elements in Marxist thinking
about brainwork. Hence giving new directions for organizing the working
class.
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, etc. We are coming to the
point where the tools of production allow us the means to meet the disabled
systems depths of oppression.
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ether on projects eventually will be the distributed
norm for left political forces. Combining pictures and words, in one
document with many hands contributing.
However casual your remark that is the answer.
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Greetings Economists,
Mark Jones criticizes Carrol Cox about ancient economies,
Mark,
"This is a cavalier dismissal of how actual slave societies functioned.
Ancient Rome was a slave society."...
"...altho there were few factories such as the famous one at Nevers
in Gaul, producing so-called Sa
tly
demands of these exchanges. Perhaps sometimes a rapid reply does contribute
a light touch, but I think the above examples are not so much witticism but
oppressive repetition.
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haracter of knowledge production. Of
course many of us have little in the way of social networks to utilize in
regard to my point about a team response to Yoshie so I want this taken as
not a personal remark directed at you, Louis Proyect, as much as an
observation about the limitations of e-mail lists.
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wledge production obscures the necessity of such
additional content in knowledge production. The best way to understand that
is to observe how attention requires human gesture in face to face
conversation. thanks, Doyle Saylor
From: Yoshie Furuhashi first quoting Jim Devine, then Yoshie adds,
details.
Also in the physicist community it is thought that tokamaks can produce
fusion if the costs of initial investment is about 10 billion or more in the
plant.
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Greetings Economists,
Yes I agree with if resources need to be redistributed to sustain
California. It would be a tremendous disaster to the people involved to not
support them.
Doyle
From: "Mark Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nathan Newman just said:
What is says is that California under its
ts, but I think it is an area where the left
could put some energy into looking at the labor process.
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, issues concerning how real time and
archival materials interact, will advance a Marxist view of social change.
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buting? There are
many areas to develop and understand. But the automation of elements of
this are the areas in which social interests are important to organize and
develop.
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tradictions in someone's logic and instead
I would seek to find the common grounds of successful communication
strategies.
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oing a major business expandsion right now.
Coming out in October Microsoft is going to make their latest OS; telephony.
People will use these tools to work online together on projects.
Let's discuss XML, Web Services, and the Semantic Web and how that shaping
of the internet is related to the Socratic Method if that is appropriate.
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Greetings Economists,
Personally I organize amongst Bisexuals through the local magazine,
Anything that Moves. I organize at work amongst admin which is the work I
do (entry level FTE's). I work in the African American Community in
whatever way I can. I organize in the disabled community ar
ndent of conversational structures. Collaboration is
about the working together that we can do through shared attention. The
NYTs article elides the necessity to understand animation of faces as deeply
related to shared attention in communication processes and the need to
converse to get work done.
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Greetings Economists,
E Nilson writes back to me:
Doyle wrote:
What it exploits is an appearance of a fear of job loss by >
actors to computer images, but is that what is going on?
Eric,
Yes. It is already happening. But "stars" are not those being affected
right now. Rather, those not being
ntion
processes. The crucial issue is shared attention and what is needed for
that to work right for human beings.
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Greetings Econo Mysts,
Wrapping up with conversing with Eric,
Eric Nillson writes
I'm not sure, but we might be talking about different things. It appears you
are talking about the creation of a cyber actor which could, in theory, act
on the stage, live, while people watch.
I'm talking about som
Greetings Economists,
Everyone will laugh at you on C-Span
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o the new OS XP.
Which I think could segue into a discussion about the economics and
reasoning behind XML.
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Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:49:36 -0500 To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sub
Greetings Critical Economists,
Buenos Aires defaults yo spam.
? I win if I am the only entry!
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Greetings Econo Mitts,
Tom Walker,
Too late, Doyle. Rob put in a contender. And we still haven't heard from Jim
"three bears" Devine and Max "the tax" Sawicky.
Doyle
Curses
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Doyle
ogy) is the main theme it is going to be
possible to address anew many vexing problems the left faces. So what Tom
raises here is a great deal more than his points adressed to the individuals
he lists. It is about how groups of people function in a collective
fashion. The engineering issues of how electronic communications can effect
our common interests.
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Hello Economucks,
Rakesh writes,
yet we hardly recognize that our positions have changed over time, which so
complicates the idea of a person as a substrate, no? It would seem to me
that if the net does succeed in allowing for some indepth discussion, the
rate at which our views change may acc
at is why standing up to those reactionary
attitudes is the very core of what the disability rights movement.
In that regard to Marta I stand with you proud!
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society norms imposed
upon disability. Of course not every disabled person is going to have a
revolutionaries spirit. Nor can a rich disabled person have the same
perspective as someone closely tied to the working class.
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s a universal system must include the disabled.
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The fact that people use emotions to reason with has a long
ways to go in defining brainwork that underlies the comments Doug Henwood
makes above.
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This was sent to test my subscription to the list. I have been having some
peculiar issues which this test will hopefully clear up.
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Doyle
beration in the U.S.
Certainly LeRoy is friendly toward that coalition.
That we thank George W. Bush for the opportunity to organize against the
repression and mass murder of capitalism.
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for the U.S. to
continue as the global super power?
Incidentally Mac's email about being wrong was a lot how I feel now. I
see people around me starting to wake up, and think things are possible
again. It is dramatic how much energy is flowing in all sorts of corners.
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duction, that is the clear and truthful
history one brings with one really going to do in terms of social
organization. Of course capitalism will distort everything and use against
workers to gain profit. But what do we want to build?
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spirit speaking. I find it inspiring to hear
many people speak like this. To Mac Stainsby and others like them your
words keep the fire burning.
To those who are organizing like Yoshie. Build Build.
in solidarity to the comrades,
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lear there are mythic
proportions to those metaphors that might be dispelled with more realistic
examination of what is being said.
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of social
relationships. This undermines and rips apart various long standing social
structures such as anti-disability slanders like what Marta cites.
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Greetings Economists,
mbs writes;
I must rise in defense of my comrade JD.
Only 50 percent of what he writes is foolish.
Doyle,
IBM announced (last summer in July) a screen reader or talking software that
could filter JD's comments per your concerns above. They use Microsoft's
economics word
f information which will grow substantially one must
consider such issues of how we feel about the information we take in. In
research the usual way to phrase that is are we happy with our computer
today? But literally in real time can we work collaboratively through
electronic channels?
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esses work in a socialist manner for human
beings. In essence to manage emotional levels so that common problems which
we see in sects do not continue to haunt the left.
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Greetings Economists,
Melvin P replies to my thoughts,
Melvin,
Welcome to the heat tank.
Doyle,
Sounds like the hot pot for fresh email posters. ;-)
Melvin,
His use of the words "sectarianism" and "cult" are in my estimate
justifiable historically.
And also Melvin writes,
Suffice it to state t
Greetings Economists,
Well Melvin, I thought you had some interesting things to add about your
history as well as your understanding of what sectarianism is. I picked up
on one single little sentence to hang my thoughts on,
Melvin
Rather, I have encountered the group dynamic from the standpoi
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