The market rebound. Now they are saying that the market was overdue a
correction. What rubbish. When they dont know our experts drag out the
correction word. A code for we dont know.
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Hi Sé
Sé: I think that I have clearly demonstrated the first argument to be true.
With
limitless or *sufficient* state intervention, an economy will expand - that
afterall is quite obvious.
Karl: If, as you seem to suggest, there cannot be limitless state
intervention then it makes no sense
relations
as relationships between things.
Karl: The phenomenal form of value is exchange value. The form of appearance
of value is exchange value. This has never be in doubt and underlies the
posting to which you responded.
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Natasha: If the world economy is heading to a period of deflation, then I'm
not convinced that the sort of spend that Brown has promised will be
sufficient.
Karl: I cannot subscribe to your argument.
Even if Brown were to increase state spending by a putative sufficient
amount it would
Does anybody know where Brenner's The Economics of Turbulence can be
downloaded. It is the May/June 1998 issue of New Left Review. It is not a
hard copy I want.
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the argument has lost the
line.
Karl: You undermine your own argument. If Brown could BORROW... But then
he would borrow. If he does not borrow it is because he cannot borrow. Why
should he not borrow on that scale if it is as simple as you suggest. Indeed
why should the Tories not borrow too
Below is an interesting piece on hedge funds. I want to make it clear that
any media cut outs sent by me do not necessarily contain views etc that I
share.
© 2002 Independent Digital (UK) Ltd
Short-selling hedge funds in the firing line again as stock markets crash
Critics claim London
is established after the fact.
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The industry has shrunk dramatically since the year-long miners strike in
1984-85. Since then the membership of the NUM has slumped from 208,000 to
about 4,000 or so now. The number of deep mine pits in Britain has decreased
from 170 to 16 of which 13 are owned by UK Coal.
It is clear that with
interested parties attempt to steady the market by making statements about
cracking down on irresponsible and dishonest corporate directors. Its
principal aim is to steady the market in the interests of the very elements
that it ostensibly reviles.
Karl Carlile
As share prices tumble the volume
. There are some people from the radical left who have
knowledge of these matters. For a variety of reasons they have chosen to
remain silent.
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and its impact on the accumulation of
capital.
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) is also
fictitious.
Karl: To say that any money that is not backed by gold is also fictitious
makes is to stretch the entire notion of the fictitious notion. By its very
nature money in the form of medium of exchange is not backed by gold.
Fictitious capital, as I said, may be a questionable notion
Hi Christian
Christian: Hmm, not really. The difference is that money backed by gold is
convertible on
demand. Fiat money is not.
Karl: Concerning money as medium of exchange Marx in Capital has the
following to say (and I quote):
The function of gold as coin becomes completely independent
has been one of the primary
achievements of neo-liberalism.
Ellen Frank, Dollars and Dinars, New Internationalist, January 20
Karl: The point I have been making is that capital cannot exist
independently of the state. Some of what you comments support that thesis.
Now since capital cannot exist
. However it is one
that communists have been working on.
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to benefit from capital gains...
Karl: The point is that in the commercial which is predominantly right wing
you don't hear any such talk. Yet the same economic commentators will call
for privatisation etc. The predominant popular literature on the right does
not make such calls. Indeed
, with all the untoward
moral and economic complications.
Karl: Am not sure what you are saying here.
The reference to the right wing
element that you label monetary cranks may echo Marx simply because Marx's
understanding is correct. You seem to be critical of Marx's conception of
certain forms of paper
; and a Puritan, morally drenched distaste for
speculation. There should be a marx-and-mixes.org.
Karl: The capitalist state cannot prevent economic crises. The state may be
able to influence the specific character of the cyclical crisis. It may be
able to modify the depth of the crisis
Jim: I may be wrong, but not joking. If you take the long-term (20 year)
treasury
bond rate and subtract the inflation rate, you get (one) estimate of the
long-term real interest rate. It rose during 2001, even though the
short-term nominal rate fell steeply.
Karl: Just have a look across
pretty secure basis. It's a poor choice of words.
Karl: The entire concept of fictitious capital may be questionable. Shares
are a form of real capital --not fictitious capital.They are just what they
say --a share of the capital. You say it is called fictitious because the
future is insecure
to
attack Iraq, may support such action by Sharon.
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Concerning the Middle East a specific conspiracy theory may be valid:
Israeli forces
is even less justifiable than it was formerly.
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is to increase further the geopolitics separation of Russia
and China. This increases it options concerning policy goals in the these two regions.
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. This would not strengthen the revolutionary
forces but fatally weaken them.
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Does anybody know much about the politics of Samual Moore the translator of Marx's
Capital Vol 1. Apparently he was a friend of Marx and Engels and a comrade. He was
their legal advisor. I don't have anymore information except that he may have been
from Manchester.
Karl
up images of the treatment meted out by Latin
American dictatorships against their opponents.
Karl Carlile: The position of communists is that it is not their concern to develop a
specific political supportive position concerning the incarceration and treatment of
the prisoners being held
One that was of poor quality too.
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-right Moledet party this week launched a
campaign advocating transfer, a euphemism for expulsion, which he says can also
connote an agreed relocation of Palestinians.
Karl: It is clear that the entire strategy by the leadership of the Palestinians has a
reactionary character
What do you do with them?
Karl
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for invading Cuba under the pretexts
of the new , hypocritical anti- terrorist doctrines.
Karl: It is not a matter of giving the US any excuse for invading Cuba. To suggest
that playing the cute hoor will emancipate Cuba from the necessities of the class
struggle constitutes the politics
JKS: Rubbish. We can say, as I do, that capitalsim is exploitative, unfair, and
unnecessary, and needs to be replaced, without adiopting a value framework.
Not adopting that framework does not stuck us with demanding only higher
wages.
Karl: Dountlessly Justin can say what he likes. However
Afghanistan: US forces carry out cold-blooded murder at Kandahar hospital
By Peter Symonds
1 February 2002
In a one-sided battle in Kandahar on Monday, a US-led military force shot and killed
six foreign Taliban supporters who had been barricaded into a ward of the Mirwais
hospital since
. We want a cashless
society, but only when the means
of production are socialized and a means to satisfy human need exist.
Karl: I object to the way in which you subject me to attack by describing what I say
as ultraleftist rants. This kind of sectarian bigotry fluently pours from you like
bile
I wonder what views the stalinist Louis Proyect has on Mr Castro now
when his brother Raul has apparently said that if any of the prisoners
in Guantanomo Bay escape the Cuban authorities will return them to the
Yankee soldiers.
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basis for solidarity across barriers (occupational
categories, national borders, productive vs. unproductive labor,
races, genders, etc.) that separate different segments of workers,
but thinking in terms of value allows us to discover the objective
basis.
Karl: Yes. This is precisely the problem
exception of Alan Freeman, Andrew Kleiman, and myself. None of us
has done a satisfactory job.
Karl: If, as you suggest, Marx goes much further in his description of
the dynamic nature of capitalism the question then arises as to how far
you view as having gone and how. Your may be contain
Rakesh: Another question is who the creditor is. The creditors could be
US in
origin operating out of offshore accounts for purposes of tax
advantage. But I don't believe the Fed's Flow of Data allows one
track creditors working through offshore accounts back to their
nations of origin.
Karl: So
private placements of securities. The list of
private
investors in the various SPV's is only partially known. Pension funds,
endowments, foundations, trust funds, are typical purchasers.
Karl: This kind of stuff above is entirely designed to have a specific
political effect --a bourgeois
transfers
to the product.
Karl: So what! This kind of speculation is analogouse to the how many
angels can fit on the head of needle or pin or whatever bull.
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senator told CNN.
· CNN Capitol Hill Producer Dana Bash and CNN Correspondents Jon Karl
and John King contributed to this report.
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Is it true that Castro has said that if any of the prisoners escape they
will be handed back to the US by him?
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Rakesh
At least someone seems to appreciate some of my contributions.
Karl
---
Karl, your post very much helped me to understand why the proposition
that the emancipation of the working class must be conquered by the
working class itself remains the implicit postulate of all
. It is clear that little of the story has been
made accessible to the public. In many ways the war itself and related
events has unfolded in intended secrecy.
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. But your general demand, skips critical
intermediate steps. The Assemblea Populares and the piqueteros
movements must fuse and build the workers councils.
Karl: Your claim contains a serious political misconception. The matter
of dual power is not, as you think, an abstract institutional matter
concerning Bin Laden's whereabouts.
The abiding hostility to Washington must not be forgotten. There is
popular support for this among the Iranian masses. This fact would
created a sympathetic link with Taliban forces under attack from the
Great Satan.
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against a new government struggling
to end a massive financial crisis.
Karl: The masses can go on strike as much as they like, bang billie cans
or whatever. It is no substitute for class politics. While the working
class remain tied to reformist philosophy their struggle will
inevitably head
Hi
Does anybody know the location of electronic material from a left
standpoint on interest rates today.
Karl
but by the direct action of the
working and popular masses.
This action was not a thunderbolt that fell from a peaceful sky. A
multiplicity of struggles, popular actions and activity rejecting the
existing order, paved the way.
Karl: This is incorrect. The popular actions on the streets and
elsewhere
. We do not know what the
real response of the Pahstuns are to the new governmnent.
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Karl: I take that for you French imperialism and US imperialism is a
tautology.
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to the establishment of world communist social relations.
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Karl: Economic crises are solved by devaluation. Not the devaluation of
bits of paper. The devaluation of capital. This takes the form of the
devaluation of constant and variable capital. The latter is capital in
the form of labour power. The devalorisation of variable capital does
Karl: Attacking people as conspiracy theorists is a form of political
correctness. It is a rhetorical device by which rational debate is
precluded from discourse. Once one is labelled a conspiracy
theorist it is believed that the person can be summarily dismissed. The
point is that conspiracies
capitalism is
growing increasingly obsolescent while communists are correspondingly
necessary. Being a communist is not a matter of choice. It is a matter
of necessity. This is why there are always vacancies for communists.
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of a conscious strategy to separate the so called elements away from the
hard core. It is clear that the US plans have been well thought out and
prepared.
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that is being played out by the Northern
Alliance and Karzi in Afghanistan. The problem is that the Palestinian
militants have been more successful in singing social roots within the
Palestinian masses. This makes them more difficult to confront.
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. The outcome is rising accumulation of capital leading
to economic boom.
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. The pipeline talks languished.
Subverting the Taliban
Throughout 1999 the US pressure on Afghanistan increased. On February 3
of that year, Assistant Secretary of State Karl E. Inderfurth and State
Department counterterrorism chief Michael Sheehan traveled to Islamabad,
Pakistan, to meet
of this interim government. As
things stand there is as yet no Afghanistan state.
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terrorizing civilians, but cannot conquer a nation alone. Without a
significant number of ground troops, strategic bombing is likely to have
Battle of
Britain type effects, i.e., mobilizing resistance.
Karl: Pushtin is a chief! What evidence is there available to support
your view that he
Institute of War and Peace
31-12-2001
Afghanistan: US Casualties Spiral
Scores of US soldiers wounded in Afghanistan have been arriving at the
Khanabad air base in southern Uzbekistan - far more than official
reports suggest
By Andrei Sukhozhilov in Khanabad (RCA No. 91, 7-Dec-01)
Its approach
Karl: Karzai's existence as the leading figure in the interim government
is based on the military invasion of Afghanistan by imperialism. His
present political existence has its social base in Washington. His
social base is not the Afghanistani masses which is why he makes for a
fragile political
Following may be of interest
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Asia Source
Special Report
Taliban: What prompted Bamiyan?
March 28, 2001
On February 26, 2001, Mullah Mohammad Omar
Karl: Karzai's existence as the leading figure in the interim government
is based on the military invasion of Afghanistan by imperialism. His
present political existence has its social base in Washington. His
social base is not the Afghanistani masses which is why he makes for a
fragile political
Karl: Reg Whitaker comments on the US attack on Afghanistan smack of
blatant partisan subjectivity that forms part of the culture of
reformism:
To argue that this victory was too easy suggests that the author of
this piece would have been happier had the so called war in Afghanistan
been a less
is no doubt aware that there is very little holding together the
new Afghan administration-other than the threats and financial bribes of
the major powers. That is why, in a highly unstable situation,
Washington made sure that its man holds the top job in the regime.
Published by WSWS
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.
'The result is that a lot of people feel that Karzai is a US imposition,
' the diplomat said. 'Depending on how he plays his cards, that could be
a problem'
Karl: If this report is reliable we get a glimpse of the degree to which
this interim government in Afghanistan is a stooge of imperialism.
Symonds
serious matter when it acquires a systematic character.
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fashion. That's essentially what's been going on.
Karl Carlile: Tariq Ali, in his position on Afghanistan as demonstrates
the limitations faced by the politics of reformism.
He suggests that history is an objective process that exists
independently of humanity. For him it is not people that make
A rushed posting.
It is clear that the US just bombed and bombed to crush the Taliban and
what is Binnie's crew. The US military have the distinction of providing
further proof that with the air technology together with all the
necessary accessories it is possible to bomb an enemy to pieces.
Cannot open up internet explorer. Is this a result of a virus and if so
how do I sort it out.
Karl
they are not reporting from the front line
etc.
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Alliance. Both sides are reactionary anti-working class
products of imperialism. They are forces than lack any real
independence. As verified by events they can only exist on the basis of
imperialist support.
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deteriorated.
The CIA is the only institution that has the real intelligence
concerning these and other matters.
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None of the delegates attending the Bonn circus democratically represent
the people of Afghanistan. The Taliban did not represent the people of
Afghanistan but neither does the NA, the king nor these so called tribal
chiefs.
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forces.
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a war or
defeat an enemy. The point is bombs do make a difference. The
devastation caused to Hiroshima and Nagasaki during the WW2 accelerated
Japans surrender.
Please forgive this rough draft form.
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administration support and perhaps even encourage such action.
Yet the mainstream or bourgeois media are so quiet about the
significance of this.
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A programme broadcast on Irish tv implies that it was Regis Debray that betrayed
Che Guevara and not the artist. We see a tv team trying to interview a very
uncomfortable Debray over the issue. He was quite uncooperative to say the
least.
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Ossam Bin Laden entered Afghanistan in response to an invitation by
Rabbini --not the Taliban.
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that if I were Taliban I would have retreated from the cities and
kept my army in tact. This would have left me in a better position to resist and
even mount an offensive againt Western forces.
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from Mazaar el Sharif because their
secret outside supporter(s) said that they could not continue to supply them.
This is what apparently explained the withdrawal of Serbian forces from
Kosova --even though the army was in tact.
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involvement of Yankee imperialism in Afghanistan
presents further problems and potential instability for Iraq and even Iran, two
states that share borders with Turkey. This consequently strategically weakens
these state's to Turkey thereby correspondingly strengthening Turkey.
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exaggeration it may even be that the United Front and
Taliban have formed some form of tacit alliance designed to force US troops
into Afghanistan. Both sides have may have much to gain by US land engagement.
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As increassing oppostion to the bombing of Afghanistan mounts Bush/Blair
increase the scale of bombing to engage in carpet bombing. This is how this duo
respond to public and political opinion
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nationalism led to the
increased polarisation of the nationalist and unionist working class. The only
problem was that Fianna Fail exerted no direct influence over it.
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Irish Times
NY toll may be
less than 3,000
Conor O Cleary
26-10-01
Almost every day the official number of people declared dead and missing in the
World Trade Centre attack is revised downwards - by 500 in the last
BBC World Service have said that the US military have made a broadcast telling
the people in Afghanistan not to mistake cluster bombs for food packages. Both
are the same colour -yellow.
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were wrong to
blame Osama Bin Laden for the attacks in New York and Washington, and warned that he
would oppose them.
The news follows unconfirmed reports that another former Mujahedin commander, Abdul
Haq, has been executed by the Taleban after being caught in the east of Afghanistan.
Karl
for workers to organise themselves into a class against capital. The
working class must replace these bourgeois institutions with appropriate proletarian
organisations if it to successfully challenge capital.
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I regularly receive these postings. Can anybody tell what they are about. Does
anybody else receive such postings
Karl
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It now transpires that about 2000 less people were killed in tha attack on the twin
towers. The figures it appears were exaggerated. Yet Blair continues to say 6000
thousand or so people were killed.
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