RE: [PEN-L] Chávez Loyalists Troll Barrios for Venezuela's Undecided

Yahoo News says that the turnout is heavy. If so, that is great news. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929

Re: KPFA and Sasha Lilley

Generally, it is a bad idea to challenge another member directly in the heading, since it sets off flames, but I cannot think of many people less inclined to intemperate behavior than Doyle and Sasha. If she wants to open a dialogue that could help matters at Pacifica, I would be glad to see the l

Re: Shleifer update

nia State University Chico, CA 95929 -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Davies Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 3:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Shleifer update -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Shleifer update

I picked this up off the Economic Principles site. A conference on damages in the government's suit against Harvard University and one of its star economists, originally slated for July 19, has been rescheduled for September 9. US District Court Judge Douglas Woodlock presumably will ask all par

Re: Economics and law

David interprets the car as a capitalist commodity. I partially agree with him, but for different reasons since I don't like cars. But the question would be how the automobile industry depended heavily on the state -- to build roads, to dislodge street cars Michael Perelman Economics Depar

Re: One Iraq veteran

Gene, you probably know that the area surrounding Chico is perhaps the most conservative in the state. I wouldn't be disheartened by what you hear coming from our local stations. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University michael at ecst.csuchico.edu Chico, CA 95929 530-89

Re: Economics and law

David, the problem with the Pinto is that the government does not adequately regulate safety -- not even to the extent of making relevant information available -- so the regulation is left to the lawsuits -- a very inefficient way of doing things. A few bucks for a protective gasket would not hav

Re: Venezuela rightists falter

With respect to this article, again, the polls here are supposed to be close. The Venezuela site says that they opposition polls show Chavez winning. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929

Re: Loath by the rich: Why Hugo Chavez is heading for a stunning victory

Right wing polls show Chavez loosing. Isn't that correct, Michael L? With the possibility of fraud, can we really expect a victory? Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University michael at ecst.csuchico.edu Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901

Re: China's migrant refuseniks

This is a very fascinating article, displaying the contradictions in Chinese development on a far deeper level than the loud discussion that followed the mention of the article by Marty & Paul. At first it did not make sense at all. How could China have great unemployment & a shortage of workers?

New way to escape the draft

NewsScan Daily, 6 August 2004 ("Above The Fold") FINLAND DISMISSING 'NET-ADDICTED' CONSCRIPTS A growing number of conscripts have to be dismissed from Finland's armed forces every year due to an Internet addiction that makes them unsuited for service. A Finnish official says: "It's an increas

Re: welcome to the banana republic

If the dollar fell the way suggested here, how would the E. Asian economies survive? Wouldn't it cause financial turmoil? If they sold their US assets to finance deficits, wouldn't that cause high interest rates in the US? We have a serious case of co-dependency. Michael Perelman Economics Dep

Re: India Turned Kashmir into the Bitter Place It Is Now

David, cut it out if you want to remain on the list. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sartesian Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

dean baker vs. the dot com and the tulip bubbles

Notices whom they choose as counterweights to Dean and Shiller, the defenders of the dot.com and tulip bubbles. The Perils of Predicting Financial Bubbles By EDUARDO PORTER New York Times Published: July 25, 2004 HOUSING prices will plunge. Now. This is the conclusion of a growing troupe of econ

Is this a serious problem?

Karmin, Craig. 2004. "Slowdown in Buying of Securities Reverses Trend and May Make It Harder to Finance Trade Deficit." Wall Street Journal (26 July): p. C 1. "Foreign purchases of securities in the U.S. in May came to $56.4 billion. While that was large enough to finance the current-account defi

Re: calling for the assassination of the President is against the law

What about Ari Fleischer describing the one bullet option in Iraq? Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929

Re: HDI, GNP and the PPP factor

Yoshie, you are not the only one that has been pestering Paul. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yoshie Furuhashi Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:33 PM To: [EMAIL PR

Re: Subject: Re: Suicides, Military and Economic

Why are they localized? Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University michael at ecst.csuchico.edu Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901 -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulhas Joglekar Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:31

Re: Query: Ford/General Motors

I think that this is very important. For me it signifies that the center of gravity of the economy is shifting in the direction of finance capital, except that I would include intellectual property as part of the nonmaterial properties that represent the core of finance capital. Michael Perelman

Re: Can Tulipmania be explained rationally as the birth of options?

First of all, great pun: "spot dog." The person whom Daniel mentions, Garber, is an economist, who began to write about tulip mania right after the `987 stock market melt down in the vain hope of proving that markets were efficient. In the end, he admitted some irrationality, but not a lot. Mich

frontiers of intellectual property

Porges, Seth. 2004. "We The People...Can't Make Copies?" Business Week (12 July): p. 12. "How much is the U.S. Constitution worth to you? On Amazon.com, the going rate is $2.99. A copy of the founding document, long in the public domain, can be acquired easily and legally for free on the Internet

Re: BW: Timid fat cats

I especially appreciated the reference to the Spring hiring binge. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929

Poor nations back down on WTO

>From the Financial Times from the NYT web sites. Poorer nations to soften trade stance By Guy de Jonquières in London and Frances Williams in Geneva Published: July 14, 2004 A last-minute diplomatic offensive by leading trade powers appeared last night to have beaten back moves by developin

Re: Fw: [stop-imf] Africa should not pay its debts - Jeffrey Sachs

I mentioned a couple days ago how much Jeffrey Sachs has moved to the left. Chris's message is further confirmation. As I said before, he has also been very strong on Haiti. Perhaps Paul A. has something to add about the relationship between Sachs and the United Nations. Michael Perelman Econo

Re: Christian Parenti "reporting" from Falluja

I believe that he was shot at while in Iraq. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University michael at ecst.csuchico.edu Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901

Hidden costs of living

Here are some snippits from a Wall Street Journal about bank & credit card fees. Does anybody attempt to take account of such things in measuring the CPI or income distribution? Pacelle, Mitchell. 2004. "Late Payers and Big Borrowers Are Becoming Cash Cows." Wall Street Journal (6 July): p. A 1.

Re: The Age of Anxiety

Right. Done remarkable work. The technology is wonderful when the user is not careless. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Henwood Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 20

Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

For the most part, we have been spared the agonies of the choice between Kerry and Nader on this list, with the threat of another ghoulish four years of Bush. No attractive choice lies ahead of us. I once spent a couple hours alone with Nader. I don't think he had the slightest interest in me as

Re: Sowell

David wrote: "The relevant factor wasn't that minimum wage laws (not raising wages) reduce employment. It was the reaction of the government bureaucrats to his suggestion of an empirical test to determine why employment was falling, which led him to philosophically shift from the importance of go

Re: Enron

We used to get conservatives here who came to convert us. All they did was to create irritation. David never has done that. Sometimes he tweaks us -- always in good humor. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 As a I said when I first participated o

Re: The presidential election and the Supreme Court

You are correct. Vietnam was also an undeclared war. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Davies Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Su

Bush endorses solar energy.

Well, sort of. http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,64021,00.html Solar to Keep Army on the Go By John Gartner 02:00 AM Jun. 29, 2004 PT During a battle, the ability to move troops swiftly and without detection can mean the difference between victory and defeat. The U.S. Army is develop

Re: Chechnya and capitalism

Lou, "demanding" does not work or belong here. I think that Chris is going to unsub because of this mode of communication. You can disagree. You can supply other facts. The non-personal part of the dialogue is useful; the personal part is not. -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto

Re: Bush's rapid shifting of position

ate the work of Moore et al., but to explain why it is being promoted in the mainstream. Still recommended after all these years: "The Consciousness Industry" by Hans Magnus Enzensberger. Peter Perelman, Michael wrote: >I cannot remember a time with so many left documentaries

Re: Bush's rapid shifting of position

I cannot remember a time with so many left documentaries getting screen time -- even ignoring Michael Moore. Supersize this, control room, the corporation Maybe our time is coming. And then, maybe not. Michael

Re: Sacred outsourcing

When Jim D. sends articles from the Onion he has to attach a warning because I find it difficult to distinguish between satire and the news. Michael P.

Re: odd bodkins on Reagan

Thanks. Tell your friend that I was a fan back then. -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Scanlan Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEN-L] odd bodkins on Reagan Importance: High >Dan and the rest of the list

Re: Reagan dead

It was Ford, not Carter that ok's the slaughter in E. Timor. Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carrol Cox Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 2:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: new megafraud controversy raging in Venezuela: imperialism or Chavez

What a wonderful example of American imperialism! On a more serious note, Michael, what are the prospects for a recall? Also, I suspect that everybody here is grateful for the serious information we have been getting about Venezuela. Thanks. By the way, Michael L. was one of the 2 original memb

money, sex, happiness

David G. Blanchflower, Andrew J. Oswald. Money, Sex, and Happiness: An Empirical Study. NBER Working Paper No. w10499 Issued in May 2004 Another version can be found at <>http://www.dartmouth.edu/~blnchflr/papers/sentScanJEsexmoneyhappinessj une2003.pdf This paper studies the links between income

frontiers of fictitious capital

PAGE ONE How Cuts in Retiree Benefits Fatten Companies' Bottom Lines Trimming a Health-Care Plan Creates Accounting Gains, Under Some Arcane Rules A Shield Against Rising Costs By ELLEN E. SCHULTZ and THEO FRANCIS Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL March 16, 2004; Page A1 The loud messa

Bush and the loonies

Bush is in Roswell, NM supposedly to talk about jobs.  For those of you outside of the US, Roswell is supposed to be where the Air Force has the captured flying saucers.   So he can connect the war on terror, jobs, and the Mars program.   Michael Perelman Economics Department Californ

Re: the $

This article seems quite good for the conventional corporate media.  I mentioned a couple days ago that I thought that the biggest risk for the Bush economy comes from the international sector.   A couple of days ago, Jeff Madrick had a nice piece in the New York Times emphasizing the imp

call to arms

[NOTE: Vijay Prashad's e-mail address is below. Reply to HIM if you want to get involved in this.] Confronting the Evangelical Imperialists Mr. Kurtz: the Horror, the Horror By VIJAY PRASHAD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In mid-October, my email in-box began to receive forwards from Michael Bednar, a g

Re: Vegatative states and neuroscience: From Hari Kumar

Doug wrote: "One of the key areas for the disabled rights movement is cognitive issues. To be clear when I use this term, cognitive, many disabled people do not use it in broad context, but to mean a specific area of disability. Cognitive for me is involvement of the brain in a disability. Schi

new energy book

Rakesh suggested that we might be interested in this book. Power Play The Twentieth-Century Struggle Over Electricity Sharon Beder Hardcover, $25.95, 1-56584-808-X 6 1/8 " x 9 1/4", 336 pages Current Affairs Territorial Sales Rights: Y Synopsis As electrification spread across America in the early

virtual economics

Today, NPR had a feature about this paper, probably stealing the idea from Slate. It is surprising how few original ideas they come up with. I found the discussion interesting in that it added another dimention to the concept of ficticious value. I still cannot receive mail, including pen-l, a

mail problems

I am unable to receive mail at my normal account for some reason.  If you need to contact me, please use this account for the next couple of days.   With respect to my post regarding Brad, I put the “ism” on centrist to specify the dogmatism that Bill Lear identified in his post.  I think

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exciting research opportunity for pen-l

Title: Market Mechanisms and Incentives for Environmental Management (MM&I)   URL: http://es.epa.gov/ncer/rfa/current/2003_market_mech.html   Open Date: 06/27/2003  -  Close Date: 10/22/2003   Summary: The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), as part of its Science to Achieve

deflation everywhere

Deflationary Virus Spreading Worldwide Abstract: Toshihiko FUKUI (Chairman, Fujitsu Research Institute) argues that deflation is no longer a problem peculiar to Japan and the whole world is starting to see the phenomenon as it spreads across an increasingly integrated global economy. China, whi

forwarded from Michael Yates

Organized labor in the United States - with some heroic exceptions - has traditionally been pro-war and pro-imperialist. In World War II the AFL made a no-strike pledge even though it failed to get a no-war profiteering pledge in exchange. All through the Cold War the AFL-CIO willingly acted as a

deflation watch

Falling Prices Put Fed on Guard Policymakers Talk About Dangerous Dynamic for Economy Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, right, talks with Rep. Jim Saxton (R-N.J.), center, and Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) (L) before a recent meeting of the congressional Joint Economic Committee, at which Gr

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More Bubble Watch

Title: More Bubble Watch Sabri forwarded this: Top Financial News 11/01 16:26 U.S. Economy: Payrolls Fall, Manufacturing Shrinks (Update2) By Siobhan Hughes and Carlos Torres Washington, Nov. 1 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. unemployment rate rose to 5.7 percent in October from 5.6 percent a m

The FBI at Berkeley

Today's San Francisoco Chronicle has an excellent report on the FBI and the University of California. http://www.sfgate.com/campus/ - Michael Perelman Economics Department CSU Chico, CA 95929

I am off line

I cannot get to my pen-l account until Sunday night. I can only look at messeages from time to time on the web. If you need to contact me, I will look at this account from time to time. I was just reading an article Dasgupta, Partha. 2001. "Valuing Objects and Evaluating Policies in Imperfect E

Interesting Develeopment

The Pacific News Service, a nonprofit radio broadcasting company, has created a new bimonthly print magazine for Silicon Valley's temporary workers. Given out free at bus stops and other places where young workers can be found, it's called Silicon Valley De-Bug. The magazine's 27-year-old editor R

Re: Method of pol. Econ.

Sorry for the poor formatting. My main server is down. miyachi wrote: What is the meaning of " static" I can't understand, What do you want to say to define that simple value analysis as static? By static, I mean that it does not take into account that the economy is dynamic. We don't di

Nastiness at pen-l

I don't know if my previous message got through, but I want the nastiness to stop immediately. - Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929

e-mail troubles

My usual e-mail address is down. You can contact me temporarly for any pen-l business at this address. - Michael Perelman Economics Department CSU Chico, CA 95929

Forwarded from Gernot Kohler

Thanks, Professors(?) Activists(?) Citizens Burford and Hagen, for your interest in my posting. It is nice to get some support from highly esteemed comrades. The brand name issue - I agree that "global Keynesianism" is as little satisfactory as a brand name as most other names for this kind of th

FW: statement to support increasing CA UI benefits

From: Michael Reich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 1:58 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: statement to support increasing CA UI benefitsAugust 14, 2001Dear Colleague:I am attaching and also providing below a statement of support for SB 40 (Alarcon), a bill to increas

No Subject

I am still cut off from my normal access to e-mail. I was thinking this morning about what would happen in the power of the US relative to the IMF and World Bank were reduced by 99%. What would a structural adjustment plan for the US look like? Also, I thought that one good thing about the US a

Cut off from access.

The Chico State system seems to be having problems and the server that handles pen-l is down. I have only looked at a few messages in the archive since I don't think many messages have gone through. I thought that the discussion regarding the paper by Alex and Wynne was excellent. I am saddened

I am off-list

Our server has been down since last night, so I am unable to follow what is happening. - Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929

strange stiglitz sighting

GOVERNMENT ACTIONS STIFLING E-COMMERCE A report just released by the Computer & Communications Industry Association says that U.S. government efforts to move operations onto the Internet are in some cases competing unfairly with the private e-commerce sector. Ed Black, president and CEO of th

Rostow

Remember the subtitle of Rostow's book : a non-communist manifesto Regarding Vietnam, his idea and the prevailing idea at the time was that China was Japan's natural trading partner, but Vietnam was supposed to be an alternative. I am sorry but I am only imperfectly connected. -- Michael Pe

chihuahua economics

Max, the UE is a lagging indicator, isn't it? Max wrote and a UE rate of 3.9 percent. Ai chihuahua. (yiddish for 'oy vey.') -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, Ca. 95929 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

debating yugoslavia

The subject of Yugoslavia is so contentious, that I suspect that we will not get very far here. Whatever Milosovic's economic achievements might be, I abhor the nationalism that he represented. The US has succeeded in demonizing M., even though his nationalism was no different from that of ou

anti-union action in cyberspace

LPA () is a group of corporate managers that lobby the US Congress and the US government, on behalf of management, on issues such as labor union organizing or civil rights for workers. Among the projects of the LPA is NLRB Watch (, a web site and ne

Re: Anthropology Question: Bounced from C. Moore

Here's a quote from Will Durant's _The Story of Civilization_ Vol I, "Our Oriental Heritage": p.105. (chapter VI The beginnings of civilization. 2. writing.) ... The linear script of Sumeria, on its first appearance (ca. 3600 B.C.) is apparently an abbreviated form of the signs and pictures p

Fw: Chimpanzee bests pros picking internet stocks.

Michael Eisenscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <868si6$2d6b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > >From nettime's_roving_primatologist Tue Jan 18 13:06:46 2000 > bbs.thing.net: majordom set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using > -f To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "nettime's_roving_primatologist" > <[EMA

[PEN-L:5327] FW: important message

> > Action Alert to Save Producer Responsibility from Attack by the US Trade > > Rep. > > > > Don't Trade Away our Health and the Environment! > > > > Your immediate assistance is needed to defend an important new > initiative > > that will help protect environmental health and safety by phasin

[PEN-L:4145] labor victory

Labor Wins Shareholder Votes Decisions at Oregon Steel Reflect Union Pressure on Wall Street By Frank Swoboda Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, March 4, 1999; Page E03 Organized labor scored a victory yesterday in its new campaign to use its financial muscle on Wall Street to bring shareho

[PEN-L:2898] Bounced from Anwar Shaikh

From: "Anwar Shaikh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: S.O.A.S. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:47:47 GMT Subject: long wave recovery Jeff My analysis of the US economy's recovery is not published. I am working on a book now, but am a long way from that particular section. Par

[PEN-L:2335] Cicero Clinton

Clinton's strong point is that he is a far better actor than Reagan. He's probably smart and certainly self desctructive. As for the politics, he just has to balance what his daily polls tell him with the demands of big contributors. Gore is not as good an actor and is less effective as a glad

[PEN-L:2285] Bennett Harrison

January 19, 1999 Bennett Harrison, 56, Urban Economist, Dies By SYLVIA NASAR Bennett Harrison, a leading radical economist, vocal critic of United States economic policy and the co-author of the 1983 book "The De-Industrialization of America," died at home o

[PEN-L:2211] Fw: Rachel #633: Carcinogens Everywhere

Interesting material on environmental reacism as well as pollutants in general. [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <77pchj$qa0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > . . > . RACHEL'S ENVIRONMENT & HEALTH WEEKLY #633

[PEN-L:1928] Nixon as Keynesian

I have never been able to locate an exact quote. It is not quite an urban legend. Here is what I did find. Lynn Turgeon pointed out the second reference to me. Buckley, William F., jr. 1971. "Are You a Keynesian?" National Review, Vol. 23 (9 February): pp. 162-3. A couple of weeks ago, Pre

[PEN-L:1874] reply to Tom Walker

Tom Walker wrote: Perhaps someone could explain to me what the following passage means from the perspective of marginal utility: "In short the argument that wages can be raised permanently by stinting labour rest on the assumption that there is a permanent fixed work-fund, i.e. a certain