Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist Diversion from Anti-racism/anti-imperialism

2000-04-12 Thread Carrol Cox
The ongoing critique in scholastic circles of "euro-centrism" more and more appears as a member of that large family of ideological persuasions generally called "post-modernism," defined here as a purely academic compensation for the material defeats the movements of the '60s Karl and

Re: Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist Diversion from Anti-racism/anti-imperialism

2000-04-12 Thread Jim Devine
At 09:34 AM 4/12/00 -0500, you wrote: The trick is to reverse cause and effect, and by attacking the effects (which exist purely in the superstructure of rarified scholastic dispute) we can soothe feelings wounded by our inability to oppose effectively the victories of racism and imperialism

Re: Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist Diversion from Anti-racism/anti-imperialism

2000-04-12 Thread Louis Proyect
Carrol Cox wrote: The ongoing critique in scholastic circles of "euro-centrism" more and more appears as a member of that large family of ideological persuasions generally called "post-modernism," defined here as a purely academic compensation for the material defeats the movements of the

Re: Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist Diversion from Anti-racism/anti-imperialism

2000-04-12 Thread Michael Hoover
"eurocentrism" needs to be retired from our vocabulary, since it acts only to deflect attention from the ills it pretends to name. Carrol Term 'eurocentrism' is problematic although conception that eurocentrism is colonizer's model of world (as jim blaut, no postmodernist, calls it) seesm

Re: Re: Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist Diversion from Anti-racism/anti-imperialism

2000-04-12 Thread Louis Proyect
Term 'eurocentrism' is problematic although conception that eurocentrism is colonizer's model of world (as jim blaut, no postmodernist, calls it) seesm generally agreeable. Term can, however, flatten complexity of european culture and history that includes peripheral regions, social classes,

Re: Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist Diversion from Anti-racism/anti-imperialism

2000-04-12 Thread Rod Hay
I think, I agree with everything that Carrol says. It is a point that I have tried to make several times, although much less elegantly. The responses that I have seen so far seem to miss the point (in my opinion) of Carrol's post and of Marx and Engels' critique of critical criticism.

Re: Re: Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist Diversion from Anti-racism/anti-imperialism

2000-04-12 Thread Louis Proyect
Naming calling lets off frustration, but silencing an "opponent" is a pretty hollow victory. And advances the cause not at all. And then, there are those who delight in disrupting left discourse, with shouting denunciations of ill defined crimes, that the perpetrator couldn't possible

Re: Re: Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist Diversion from Anti-racism/anti-imperialism

2000-04-12 Thread Doug Henwood
Rod Hay wrote: I think, I agree with everything that Carrol says. It is a point that I have tried to make several times, although much less elegantly. The responses that I have seen so far seem to miss the point (in my opinion) of Carrol's post and of Marx and Engels' critique of critical

Re: Anti-Eurocentrism: Idealist Diversion from Anti-racism/anti-imperialism

2000-04-12 Thread Chris Burford
At 09:34 12/04/00 -0500, Carrol wrote: The ongoing critique in scholastic circles of "euro-centrism" more and more appears as a member of that large family of ideological persuasions generally called "post-modernism," defined here as a purely academic compensation for the material defeats