Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread soula avramidis
  Why would I disagree with that,... what  I disagree with is the notion that he is simply bigger than bentham, spencer or jevons. it is not a question of magnitude he simply does not fit with the rest of them and should be treated like that out of respect for the man. the minute we become selectiv

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread Doug Henwood
soula avramidis wrote: a young man ran towards the old marx all joy and zeal wanting to join the cause; marx simply told him to bugger off. he was nice but not naive. he was not a racist. the only way forward is the rule iron rule of the working class, capitalism was born with blood and fire and i

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Hey! soula avramidis! >a young man ran towards the old marx all joy and zeal >wanting to join the cause; marx simply told him to >bugger off. he was nice but not naive. That sounds heartbreaking. I'm sorry to hear it. If you, personally, have to believe that Karl Marx was about the "iron rule of

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread soula avramidis
a young man ran towards the old marx all joy and zeal wanting to join the cause; marx simply told him to bugger off. he was nice but not naive. he was not a racist. the only way forward is the rule iron rule of the working class, capitalism was born with blood and fire and it will go down that wa

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Carrol Cox writes: [Some general gossip] We all have our moments, good and bad. That's the very definition of "quite human." Do you have a different one? Ken. -- Gossip is charming! But scandal is merely gossip made tedious by morality. -- Oscar Wilde

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread Devine, James
Soula writes: > that democratic centralism and Hegel are simple > anomalies unrelated to his thought is rather > strange. JKS writes:>Although I think the anti-Hegelian view is wrong it has a respectable pedigree. Althusser madea career out of arguing that MArx was no Hegelian.< methinks that t

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread Carrol Cox
Kenneth Campbell wrote: > > > Karl _was_ tame, polite and reasonable in interview and personal > interaction. > > He spoke to the "other side" in a conversation -- didn't sit there > delivering monologues. Quite human. > Not true, or wholly true, from various accounts I have read. It would be true

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread andie nachgeborenen
--- soula avramidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > this Karl Marx is tame, domesticated and suitable > for a western audience so much so that he could be > in few years a candidate for the pentagon cabal. Don't be silly. Just because he's not your sort of PC firebrand doesn't make someone a sell

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread Kenneth Campbell
soula avramidis writes: >this Karl Marx is tame, domesticated and suitable >for a western audience Karl _was_ tame, polite and reasonable in interview and personal interaction. He spoke to the "other side" in a conversation -- didn't sit there delivering monologues. Quite human. Sorry about tha

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-30 Thread soula avramidis
this Karl Marx is tame, domesticated and suitable for a western audience so much so that he could be in few years a candidate for the pentagon cabal. i like the way he demeaned Slavs; there was a definite flirt with the third Reich there. that democratic centralism and Hegel are simple anomalies u

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-29 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Max B. Sawicky wrote: >this was great. > >www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/ArticleView.asp?accessible=yes&P_Article=12 295 It is great! Thoroughly entertaining and inspirational at the same time... My two reasons for thinking it so... 1) The Nod to the Past: The writer's assumption of Karl's styl

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-29 Thread Mike Ballard
Thanks Louis! --- "Max B. Sawicky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this was great. > > > -Original Message- > From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Louis > Proyect > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PRO

Re: Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-29 Thread Max B. Sawicky
this was great. -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Louis Proyect Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Interview with Karl Marx http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/ArticleView.asp?accessible=yes&P_Article= 1

Interview with Karl Marx

2003-10-29 Thread Louis Proyect
http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/ArticleView.asp?accessible=yes&P_Article=12295 -- The Marxism list: www.marxmail.org