and Robin Cook Re: [PEN-L] Clinton, Kerry and Kosovo

2004-06-24 Thread Chris Burford
Robin Cook was explicit last night on BBC tv that he is an interventionist - and he cited Kosovo. The point he chose to make was that the declared basis for the intervention in Iraq did not turn out to be well founded, and if it was to liberate the Iraqi people from Saddam Hussein it was very ill

Clinton, Kerry and Kosovo

2004-06-24 Thread Louis Proyect
Counterpunch, June 24, 2004 Clinton, Kerry and Kosovo The Lie of a "Good War" By DIANE JOHNSTONE For U.S. politicians, if all wars are good, some are better than others. Democrats prefer Clinton wars and Republicans prefer Bush wars. But in the end, they almost unanimously come together

Kosovo/Iraq

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
or such actions. In Yugoslavia, as in Iraq, the ultimate goal of the aggressor nations was regime change. In Iraq, the justification for aggression was the possession of weapons of mass destruction; in Yugoslavia, it was the prevention of a humanitarian crisis and genocide in Kosovo. In both cases, t

Women in Kosovo & Afghanistan

2001-12-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
As "Kosovar leaders along with the international community are pushing Kosovo towards an open market-led economy," "[t]rafficking in women, both within and outside of Kosovo has dramatically increased with almost 85 brothels operating (in a region of roughly 2 million people)

Violence Stops Yugoslavia Gay Pride/Depleted Uranium: TheVieques-Kosovo Connection

2001-07-13 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.thegully.com/essays/gaymundo/010705gay_yugoslavia.html Had not seen this online publication before. This looks good too, Depleted Uranium: The Vieques-Kosovo Connection, Vieques Movement: Little Engine That Could, http://www.thegully.com/essays/puertorico/010212depleted_uranium.html

Macedonia & Kosovo

2001-04-13 Thread jdevine
FAIR-L Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting Media analysis, critiques and news reports MEDIA ADVISORY: Macedonia War Gets the Kosovo Treatment-- In Reverse April 13, 2001 At the outset of NATO's Kosovo bombing campaig

TV Documentary on Kosovo: Can You Help?

2000-12-21 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
TV documentary on Kosovo: can you help? From: Michel Collon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear friends, I just come back from Kosovo where I shooted images for a TV documentary (50 minutes or more) about the situation of Serbs and other minorities in Kosovo today. I was helped by very go

Thaci undermined in Kosovo

2000-10-25 Thread Chris Burford
NATO intervention. Kosovans no doubt will reflect how much they should have trusted NATO. Chris Burford Hashim Thaci: "The Snake" Faces Make or Break Electoral Challenge PRISTINA, Oct 25, 2000 -- (Agence France Presse) Hashim Thaci, who shot to worldwide prominence as the young face

Re: Re: Kostunica admits Kosovo killings

2000-10-24 Thread Chris Burford
At 19:22 24/10/00 -0400, you wrote: > >"I am ready to... accept the guilt for all those people who have been > >killed," Mr Kostunica said. "For what Milosevic had done, and as a Serb, I > >will take responsibility for many of these, these crimes." > >He'd better. Or else he won't get paid off fro

Re: Re: Kostunica admits Kosovo killings

2000-10-24 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3467] Re: Kostunica admits Kosovo killings, el 24 Oct 00, a las 19:22, Louis Proyect dijo: > >"I am ready to... accept the guilt for all those people who have been > > killed," Mr Kostunica said. "For what Milosevic had done, and as a > >Ser

Re: Kostunica admits Kosovo killings

2000-10-24 Thread Louis Proyect
>"I am ready to... accept the guilt for all those people who have been >killed," Mr Kostunica said. "For what Milosevic had done, and as a Serb, I >will take responsibility for many of these, these crimes." He'd better. Or else he won't get paid off from the west. Louis Proyect Marxism mailing

"UK Kosovo role slammed"

2000-10-24 Thread Chris Burford
That is the BBC headline over the report of the House of Commons Select Committee on the Kosovo war. >The Commons Defence Select Committee report said the UK air forces were >badly equipped and responsible for less than 5% of the Nato sorties flown. > > >Britain's major

Kostunica admits Kosovo killings

2000-10-24 Thread Chris Burford
From the Guardian website. Staff and agencies Tuesday October 24, 2000 Yugoslavia's new president has admitted for the first time that Yugoslav army and police forces committed widespread killings in Kosovo last year. VVojislav Kostunica's remarks, in a television interview rele

Will George Soros now lavish millions on the Serbs in Kosovo?

2000-10-24 Thread Louis Proyect
>From a recent Human Rights Watch report: Full text at: http://www.hrw.org/backgrounder/eca/kosovo-election-bck.htm The Pre-Election Climate in Kosovo More than a year after the end of the war in Kosovo, the security situation in the province remains a cause for serious concern. Attacks

Re: Re: Kostunica releases Kosovo woman activist

2000-10-22 Thread Chris Burford
At 22:16 22/10/00 -0400, Proyect wrote: > >I do not doubt there is some truth behind the OSCE report on defects of > >human rights and the criminal justice system in Kosovo (Oct 20) > > > >The following reports also show some of the potential advantages of > >bourge

Re: Kostunica releases Kosovo woman activist

2000-10-22 Thread Louis Proyect
>I do not doubt there is some truth behind the OSCE report on defects of >human rights and the criminal justice system in Kosovo (Oct 20) > >The following reports also show some of the potential advantages of >bourgeois legality, over distortions of socialist legality, in redu

Kostunica releases Kosovo woman activist

2000-10-22 Thread Chris Burford
I do not doubt there is some truth behind the OSCE report on defects of human rights and the criminal justice system in Kosovo (Oct 20) The following reports also show some of the potential advantages of bourgeois legality, over distortions of socialist legality, in reducing national

Will George Soros now lavish millions on the Serbs in Kosovo?

2000-10-20 Thread Louis Proyect
The OSCE has recently published a report on the criminal justice in Kosovo. According to an OSCE press release these are the key findings: - some provisions of applicable law may conflict with human rights standards; - the report finds clear and compelling evidence of actual bias by the courts

Colony Kosovo (by Christian Parenti)

2000-09-07 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
_San Francisco Bay Guardian_ August 23, 2000 Colony Kosovo Where cops, do-gooders, and privateers run the show. By Christian Parenti CLOGGED WITH ALMOST 800,000 souls, Pristina, Kosovo, a city of tower blocks rising from a parched valley floor, now holds twice the population for which it

Wallerstein on Kosovo

2000-07-12 Thread Ken Hanly
Here is an interesting analysis of the US (NATO) intervention in Kosovo. Strange he does not mention French or British (or Canadian :)) involvement. His predictions were partly wrong but partly right as well.. In his analysis of Milosevic's moving against Kosovan autonomy he misses the ro

a conservative view of Kosovo war's effects

2000-03-23 Thread Jim Devine
er of what victory has wrought--a costly and misgoverned colony--and with the Pentagon's admission that crucial war plans were indeed leaked to the Serbs, it is hard to recall now that Kosovo was to be NATO's splendid little war. By taking on the brutal but weak Serbia of Slobodan Milose

Kosovo- once again

2000-03-21 Thread phillp2
Any one who harboured any doubt that the NATO pusche in Kosovo was anything other than an imperialist junket, allied with criminal, drug-pushing elements, should read the article in the most recent issue of *Canadian Dimension*, entitled "After Kosovo: A marriage of heroin and war in th

[PEN-L:13050] Kosovo update

1999-10-30 Thread phillp2
concern over the involvement of Dutch KFOR troops in the imprisonment of a large number of Serbian residents in the Kosovo town of Orahovac. Saturday, Cedda Prlncevic, the leader of Pristina's Jewish community, who were driven from Kosovo by the KLA (UCK), and I were among the speakers wh

[PEN-L:11266] Re: East Timor, Kosovo, and Kuwait

1999-09-18 Thread Carrol Cox
I don't know how one could get a dependable nose count on the questions Nathan raises, but I will report on my own count among those whose history I know. Without exception (that is, among those with whom I am still in contact) the people I worked with in Central America Solidarity in the '80s hav

[PEN-L:11267] Re: East Timor, Kosovo, and Kuwait

1999-09-18 Thread Michael Perelman
Nathan, The difference between Kosovo and the other cases is that the aggressor is a client state. We have no need to call for military intervention. All the U.S. needs to do is to call off its dogs and they will comply. Several of us have mentioned that we think that the introduction of

[PEN-L:11264] East Timor, Kosovo, and Kuwait

1999-09-18 Thread Nathan Newman
To avoid a bit of the beating the dead horse thing, I will try to be as unpolemical as possible in this post and hope for the same in the responses. With East Timor, Kosovo and Kuwait, we have three key situations of a larger local power seeking to dominate a smaller region with aspirations of

[PEN-L:10257] UN Taking Blame for Kosovo

1999-08-20 Thread Interhemispheric Resource Center
Excerpted from: www.foreignpolicy-infocus.org/progresp/vol3/prog3n29.html The Progressive Response 18 August 1999 Vol. 3, No. 29 *** SETTING UP THE UN TO TAKE THE BLAME IN KOSOVO *** (Editor's note: Recent statements by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Henry Shelto

[PEN-L:8465] The mark versus the dinar in Kosovo

1999-06-28 Thread Ken Hanly
Many establishments run by Albanians in Kosovo will now not accept the dinar (FRY currency) as legal tender but only the German mark. The so-called sovereignty of the FRY over Kosovo is purely nominal. Are the UN administrators to ensure that FRY laws apply in Kosovo? In what sense is Kosovo

[PEN-L:8297] Nato hit only 5 percent of Serb tanks in Kosovo (but lots oftrains and buses?)

1999-06-24 Thread Louis Proyect
me of the most sophisticated precision weapons, succeeded in damaging only 13 of the Serbs' 300 battle tanks in Kosovo, despite alliance claims of large-scale destruction of Belgrade's heavy armour. With Nato's Kosovo Force (Kfor) now spread out into every area of the province,

[PEN-L:8225] Kosovo/a bombs & foxes

1999-06-23 Thread Jim Devine
cle to making Kosovo safe for repatriation. < -- Scott Shuger in SLATE. - Wednesday, June 23, 1999 (LA TIMES Op-Ed) PERSPECTIVE ON KOSOVO : U.S. and NATO Have Put the Fox in the Chicken Coop Installing the KLA as the dominant political power broker ultimatel

[PEN-L:8187] Progressive Response: Kosovo

1999-06-22 Thread Interhemispheric Resource Center
U.S. ROLE IN THE BALKANS *** by David Binder and Robert Hayden *** WORDS AS PROPAGANDA *** by Edward Herman *** WHERE THE MEDIA WENT WRONG COVERING KOSOVO *** by Jeff Cohen - (Editor's Note: Over the last se

[PEN-L:8140] latest G8 statement on Kosovo

1999-06-21 Thread Peter Dorman
Does anyone out there have a link to the full text of yesterday's G8 statement on economic aid to the Balkans? I would like to know the specifics of what was said about "economic reforms". Thanks. Peter

[PEN-L:8119] Text of US/Russian Kosovo Pact

1999-06-19 Thread Michael Eisenscher
U.S.-Russia Kosovo Agreement Text By The Associated Press Friday, June 18, 1999; 6:49 p.m. EDT Text of Kosovo peacekeeping agreement between Russia and the United States: It is agreed by the Secretary of Defense of the United States and the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation: To

[PEN-L:8000] LEFT-RIGHT BEDFELLOWS (The war in Kosovo) - The Nation

1999-06-15 Thread Robert Naiman
The Nation June 28, 1999 LEFT-RIGHT BEDFELLOWS "We are the evil empire. Our war in Kosovo is the latest chapter in a century of American imperialism that includes Vietnam, the Gulf War and our shameful, secret wars in Ce

[PEN-L:7999] Kosovo, the Post Cold War World & the Left

1999-06-15 Thread Michael Eisenscher
Kosovo, the Post Cold War World & the Left By Carl Bloice The following is adapted and updated from a talk presented to the Center for Political Education in San Francisco, May 4, 1999. After my four-year stint as a correspondent in Moscow which coincided with the closing down of the Unio

[PEN-L:7964] Rape, War Crime, and Propaganda (was Re: [Fwd: [end-violence]UNFPA reports rape and abduction of Kosovo refugees])

1999-06-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Vesna sued for libel and won! > >Return-Path: <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Received: from edc-cit.org (shule.lightrealm.com [209.203.236.5]) >Received: (from edccit@localhost) > for a13350012; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 04:00:40 -0700 (PDT) >Message-Id: <<[EMAIL PR

[PEN-L:7812] (Fwd) RUSSIAN MILITARY BLAME NATO FOR COLLAPSE OF KOSOVO PULLO

1999-06-08 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
PSE OF KOSOVO PULLOUT TALKS - AFP Agence France PresseJune 7, 1999 RUSSIAN MILITARY BLAME NATO FOR COLLAPSE OF KOSOVO PULLOUT TALKS MOSCOW — The Russian military on Monday blamed NATO for the collapse of talks on securing a pullout of Yugoslav troop

[PEN-L:7808] (Fwd) KOSOVO CONFLICT GIVES RAYTHEON BIG CONTRACTS

1999-06-08 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 13:26:34 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: KOSOVO CONFLICT GIVES RAYTHEON BIG CONTRACTS The Associated

[PEN-L:7740] No free market economy in Kosovo?

1999-06-04 Thread Peter Dorman
If I'm not mistaken, the current agreement to end hostilities in Yugoslavia (still not ended) does not include a stipulation that Kosovo have a free market economy. Was this just boilerplate in Rambouillet or is an actual concession of some sort involved? Peter

[PEN-L:7715] WHAT REPORTERS KNEW ABOUT KOSOVO TALKS -- BUT DIDN'T TELL

1999-06-04 Thread Robert Naiman
Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting Media analysis, critiques and news reports Media Advisory: WHAT REPORTERS KNEW ABOUT KOSOVO TALKS -- BUT DIDN'T TELL Was Rambouillet Another Tonkin Gulf? June 2, 1999 New evidence has emerged confirming that the U.S. deliberately set out to t

[PEN-L:7493] Civilian population in Kosovo may be about to crack, but itdoesn't look that way - Daily Telegraph

1999-05-31 Thread Sid Shniad
The Daily Telegraph May 31, 1999 SUFFERING TURNS SERB BULLIES INTO MARTYRS It may be that civilian population in Kosovo is about to crack. It is just that it doesn't look that way here. By Boris Johnson Something went

[PEN-L:7463] Michael Moore on Colorado & Kosovo

1999-05-30 Thread Michael Eisenscher
http://www.zmag.org/colokos.htm > > <http://www.zmag.org/colokos.htmZMag/kosovo.htm>Back to ZNet Kosovo/Nato > Contents > <http://www.zmag.org/colokos.htmweluser.htm>Back to ZNet Top Page > > > > A Letter From Michael Moore... > > April 22, 1999 >

[PEN-L:7452] [Fwd: Alarming Geopolitical May 28/29 Update to my NATO/Kosovo page]

1999-05-29 Thread Michael Perelman
Gunder Frank wrote: > My NATO/Kosovo page contains a dozen new items at > > http://csf.colorado.edu/archive/agfrank/nato_kosovo/ > > The four important items marked # in the May 28/29 list below complement > each other to evoke an alarming sea change in global geo-politi

[PEN-L:7366] (Fwd) Selected pieces of analysis of the Kosovo situation from

1999-05-27 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:11:47 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Selected pieces of analysis of the Kosovo situation from St

[PEN-L:7320] Re: alternatives to Nato on the Kosovo crisis

1999-05-27 Thread Robert Naiman
usalem and Ramallah than in Hebron and Nablus because there were many internationals in the former and few in the latter, etc. I would say based on my experience, and I think what we've seen in Kosovo bears this out, that a situation of low-intensity war with international unarmed monitors, NGOs, peace

[PEN-L:7337] Re: Re: alternatives to Nato on the Kosovo crisis

1999-05-27 Thread Peter Dorman
I want to strongly endorse this statement. I too have strong feelings about the "holocaust" issue. I get angry when I hear this word (and "genocide") tossed about casually in the context of Serbia/Kosovo -- not only because, as obscene as the killing and expulsion is, it doe

[PEN-L:7293] Re: alternatives to Nato on the Kosovo crisis

1999-05-27 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Peter, Thanks for the response. As far as I know, except for Chomsky, this question of alternatives has received little analysiswell, who knows I may have deleted too many Kosovo exchanges. > This issue of alternatives is extremely important, and doesn't always > get the

[PEN-L:7236] alternatives to Nato on the Kosovo crisis

1999-05-26 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
I would appreciate it if someone forwarded a post (perhaps the one by Chomsky) on what could have been done to avoid in Kosovo what happened in Bosnia. Also Proyect once sent something on Havel which I would like to see again. I really dont have the time to examine this this issue of

[PEN-L:7246] Re: alternatives to Nato on the Kosovo crisis

1999-05-26 Thread Peter Dorman
etween NATO and paralysis. Recommendation: "Mario and the Magician" by Thomas Mann. Just saying no is a losing strategy. Peter Ricardo Duchesne wrote: > > I would appreciate it if someone forwarded a post (perhaps the one by > Chomsky) on what could have been done to avoid i

[PEN-L:7128] (Fwd) Canadian MP's travels through Kosovo

1999-05-21 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:46:54 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Canadian MP's travels through Kosovo The Na

[PEN-L:7126] (Fwd) WILL THE UN BRING PEACE TO KOSOVO? THE BOSNIAN PRECEDENT

1999-05-21 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:13:44 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:WILL THE UN BRING PEACE TO KOSOVO? THE BOSNIAN PRECEDENT WILL THE UN

[PEN-L:7091] (Fwd) ANNAN TAKES CRITICAL STANCE ON U.S. ACTIONS IN KOSOVO -

1999-05-20 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:02:43 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:ANNAN TAKES CRITICAL STANCE ON U.S. ACTIONS IN KOSOVO - The Ne

[PEN-L:7085] Re: Re: Re: Re: Rosaer on Kurds/Kosovo

1999-05-20 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, May 20, 1999 5:48 PM Subject: [PEN-L:7084] Re: Re: Re: Rosaer on Kurds/Kosovo >J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. wrote: > >>We need to block this ground invasion train. > >Schröder's done that, no? > >Doug > >

[PEN-L:7084] Re: Re: Re: Rosaer on Kurds/Kosovo

1999-05-20 Thread Doug Henwood
J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. wrote: >We need to block this ground invasion train. Schröder's done that, no? Doug

[PEN-L:7080] Re: Re: Rosaer on Kurds/Kosovo

1999-05-20 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, May 20, 1999 12:48 AM Subject: [PEN-L:7062] Re: Rosaer on Kurds/Kosovo >I was trying to suggest once before that Barkely was getting pretty >repetitive about the subject. Barkley is well informed, but as Louis >Proyect noted, som

[PEN-L:7079] Re: Rosaer on Kurds/Kosovo

1999-05-20 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
, at least for now. Barkley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, May 20, 1999 12:33 AM Subject: [PEN-L:7061] Rosaer on Kurds/Kosovo Barkely, We have been through this a number of times, so th

[PEN-L:7081] Re: Re: Re: Rosaer on Kurds/Kosovo

1999-05-20 Thread Michael Perelman
happened > before things were set in Bosnia-H. But, enough. > We need to block this ground invasion train. > Barkley > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thursday, May 20, 1

[PEN-L:7061] Rosaer on Kurds/Kosovo

1999-05-19 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
Barkely, We have been through this a number of times, so this is my last post on this issue. (Definite, no further, finis, end!!! ;-)) You have demonized Milosevic from the begining. I have been neutral on this issue arguing that Milosevic, whatever, his negatives, was better than the alte

[PEN-L:7062] Re: Rosaer on Kurds/Kosovo

1999-05-19 Thread michael
I was trying to suggest once before that Barkely was getting pretty repetitive about the subject. Barkley is well informed, but as Louis Proyect noted, some of his material was repeating material that was coming out of the commercial media. I know that we can learn a great deal from you Barkely

[PEN-L:7050] Kosovo in the 1970s

1999-05-19 Thread Louis Proyect
There were several factors contributing to the sharp increase in the overall population in Kosovo. The public health service in Kosovo achieved important results in reducing the province's mortality rate -- it had fallen from 17.0 per 1,000 in 1950 to 8.6 by 1970. A similar trend had occurr

[PEN-L:6999] (Fwd) ALLIES DIVIDED ON PATH TO PEACE IN KOSOVO

1999-05-18 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:39:07 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:ALLIES DIVIDED ON PATH TO PEACE IN KOSOVO The Washingto

[PEN-L:6977] Re: Kosovo/a

1999-05-18 Thread Tom Walker
Jim Devine wrote: >[**] Note that the US/NATO standards of "human rights" ignore the right not >to starve, the right to a job, etc., things that show up in the Universal >Declaration of Human Rights (cf. in English, >http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/lang/eng.htm ). Under the latter (especially >articles

[PEN-L:6963] Kosovo/a

1999-05-18 Thread Jim Devine
uot; is the goal or driving force behind the process. The US/NATO (a) pulling-out of OSCE and other human-rights observers from Kosova/o combined with (b) the start of strategic bombing of Serbia, Kosovo/a, and Montenegro [!] were the efficient causes or triggers of the "ethnic cleansing.

[PEN-L:6934] (Fwd) Human rights monitor with the OSCE Kosovo Verification M

1999-05-17 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:57:23 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Human rights monitor with the OSCE Kosovo Verification Mission

[PEN-L:6862] (Fwd) Organized Labor and the War in Kosovo

1999-05-15 Thread phillp2
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:15:29 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Organized Labor and the War in Kosovo ZNet Comm

[PEN-L:6664] Re: Barkely's guide to Kosovo

1999-05-11 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Michael, Actually, this morning's Washington Post had another very instructive map. This one was supposed to show how the Yugoslavs have "destroyed Kosovo." In any case it depicted areas where 90% of the Albanian population was before the war, villages that have been burned,

[PEN-L:6619] (Fwd) YUGOSLAV ARMY TELLS UNITS TO START KOSOVO PULLOUT

1999-05-10 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:08:21 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:YUGOSLAV ARMY TELLS UNITS TO START KOSOVO PULLOUT R

[PEN-L:6574] Legal Investigations of allegations on Kosovo

1999-05-10 Thread Charles Brown
<< Subj: jhurd_newparty: Important German Documents On Kosovo (fwd) Date: 5/8/99 11:48:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David L. Wilson) Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IMPORTANT INTERNAL DOCUMENTS FROM GERMANY'S FOR

[PEN-L:6575] Recovery in a Kosovo town (NY Times)

1999-05-10 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, May 10, 1999 THE SERBS Torn by War, a Town Works to Recover By STEVEN ERLANGER PODUJEVO, YUGOSLAVIA -- Three months ago, Milos Savic was frantic. He had been stopped at a checkpoint by the Kosovo Liberation Army close to this northern Kosovo city and dragged out of his car at

[PEN-L:6583] Progressive Response: NATO, Korea, Kosovo

1999-05-10 Thread Interhemispheric Resource Center
by Tomas Valasek of the Center for Defense Information, "NATO at Fifty" can be accessed at http://www.foreignpolicy-infocus.org/briefs/vol4/v4n11nato.html. The following analysis of NATO after the summit and immersed in the Kosovo bombing campaign comes from Daniel Plesch, director of t

[PEN-L:6557] (Fwd) _Was_ there ethnic cleansing in Kosovo before March 24?

1999-05-09 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:02:45 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:_Was_ there ethnic cleansing in Kosovo before March 24? "I did

[PEN-L:6561] (Fwd) G-8 KOSOVO PRINCIPLES - A N O T H E R P E A C E P

1999-05-09 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:30:38 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:G-8 KOSOVO PRINCIPLES - A N O T H E R P E A C E P L A N

[PEN-L:6563] (Fwd) The U.S. and NATO's New World Disorder in Kosovo - Misha

1999-05-09 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:03:20 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:The U.S. and NATO's New World Disorder in Kosovo - Misha

[PEN-L:6525] (Fwd) NOW COMES THE HARD PART: MAKING PEACE IN KOSOVO

1999-05-07 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:53:18 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:NOW COMES THE HARD PART: MAKING PEACE IN KOSOVO The Vancouv

[PEN-L:6498] FAIR: Slanted Sources in Kosovo Coverage (fwd)

1999-05-07 Thread Michael Hoover
> forwarded by Michael Hoover > > > > FAIR Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting 130 W. 25th Street New > > York, NY 10001 Slanted Sources in NewsHour and Nightline Kosovo Coverage > > > > May 5, 1999 > > > > A FAIR analysis of sources on

[PEN-L:6425] (Fwd) The World After Kosovo

1999-05-04 Thread ts99u-2.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.225]
--- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:23:43 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:The World After Kosovo STRATFOR's Global Intelligence Update

[PEN-L:6321] (Fwd) UNARMED CIVILIAN U.N. MISSION OKAY FOR KOSOVO - BELGRADE

1999-05-02 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
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[PEN-L:6330] Re: Kosovo, was Compounding folly: the Kelvinator fetish

1999-05-02 Thread Tom Walker
Gene Coyle wrote: >What has this to do with Kosovo? Economics, and specifically welfare >economics and micro, has as its major function to explain (or apologize as >we used to say) things like the bombing of Kosovo, and for exploitation of >every sort. Surely micro has no relevan

[PEN-L:6313] Re: Kosovo, was Compounding folly: the Kelvinator fetish

1999-05-02 Thread Eugene Coyle
also find the absence of a thread on this to be profoundly revealing.     This is about Kosovo, rather than Lord Kelvin.     Tom is not the first to find a fundamental flaw in micro economics.  When I was in grad school I was absolutely taken with the elegance of micro.  At the same time, I knew i

[PEN-L:6289] Kosovo and EMU redux

1999-04-30 Thread Lisa & Ian Murray
While it's becoming increasingly clear that the domestic imperatives in the US with regards to Kosovo are to placate Arms sales, we've paid little attention to realpolotik issues of immediate concern to the US, Britain and Germany; all of whom will suffer from full EMU 1/1/2002. R

[PEN-L:6274] Re: Senate Republican Policy Papers on Kosovo

1999-04-30 Thread Michael Hoover
> Have you guys seen these? Any comments? > "The Kosovo Liberation Army: Does Clinton Policy Support Group with Terror, > Drug Ties?" > http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1999/fr033199.htm > Yoshie if anybody can recognize a drug running operation used to finance ar

[PEN-L:6261] Re: An International Protectorate in Kosovo

1999-04-30 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
ut we now see a lot of de facto limited autonomy in former ethnic war zones. That is what Chechnya has, still officially part of Russia in the eyes of the world but de facto independent. To a lesser degree, and probably more comparable to the situation in Kosovo-Metohija, that is what we have

[PEN-L:6203] Re: Senate Republican Policy Papers on Kosovo

1999-04-29 Thread Carrol Cox
Louis Proyect wrote: > This is what they call a split in the ruling class. It certainly represents a sharp disagreement on a specific issue -- but I think it is worthwhile to reserve the label, "split in the ruling class," for the kind of division which makes possible an actual alliance betwe

[PEN-L:6204] Re: Re: Senate Republican Policy Papers on Kosovo

1999-04-29 Thread Jim Devine
At 09:36 PM 4/29/99 -0500, you wrote: >Louis Proyect wrote: >> This is what they call a split in the ruling class. Carrol writes: >It certainly represents a sharp disagreement on a specific issue -- but >I think it is worthwhile to reserve the label, "split in the ruling class," >for the kind of

[PEN-L:6201] Senate Republican Policy Papers on Kosovo

1999-04-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Yoshie wrote: >Have you guys seen these? Any comments? > >"The Kosovo Liberation Army: Does Clinton Policy Support Group with Terror, >Drug Ties?" Un-FUCKING-believable. This is what they call a split in the ruling class. It is always provoked when an enemy--Vietnamese or

[PEN-L:6199] An International Protectorate in Kosovo

1999-04-29 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Those leftists who use words like 'autonomy' and 'self-determination' for Albanians in Kosovo as if such things could ever be achieved under USA/NATO suffer from the worst kind of illusion or delusion to which even the New York Times seems immune. Yoshie * The New York

[PEN-L:6187] Senate Republican Policy Papers on Kosovo

1999-04-29 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Have you guys seen these? Any comments? "The Kosovo Liberation Army: Does Clinton Policy Support Group with Terror, Drug Ties?" http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1999/fr033199.htm "Bosnia II: The Clinton Administration Sets Course for NATO Intervention in Kosovo" http:/

[PEN-L:6165] Re: Tito-KLA-Kosovo

1999-04-29 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
eptember of this year. I know that some of you have made use of this > book in courses. The 2nd Edition, published in 1992, is still in print > and still available, but will be supplanted by the 3rd late this summer. > The ISBN of the 3rd Edition is 0-226-86903-2. > > Back to Koso

[PEN-L:6141] Stephen Shalom piece on Kosovo

1999-04-29 Thread William S. Lear
There is a recently uploaded article, "Reflections on NATO and Kosovo", by Stephen R. Shalom on the Z Magazine site. It looks quite thorough and can be found at http://www.zmag.org/shalomnp.htm. Bill

[PEN-L:6078] Re: Re: Kosovo: A Response to the Critics

1999-04-28 Thread ts99u-3.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.226]
Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:30:32 -0400 Subject:[PEN-L:6038] Re: Kosovo: A Response to the Critics Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hanly, Just a reminder: Jeffrey Beatty wrote this, not me. > > ricardo > > > > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:

[PEN-L:6057] [Fwd: Kosovo: A Response to the Critics]boundary="------------4D5195E58A2B0282DC25D386"

1999-04-27 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kosovo: A Response to the Critics References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jeffrey's reply to the six criticisms of NATO policy of bombing attacks on Yugoslavia that he summarized attempted to be fair and objective. Still, reading his counter arguments with as much forebeara

[PEN-L:6051] NATO photos of of Kosovo mass graves are fakelampidis.1@osu.edu

1999-04-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
You may have seen this already, but just in case you haven't Yoshie * NATO photos of of Kosovo mass graves are fake: report THE HAGUE, April 24 (AFP) - Several photos distributed by NATO and said to show possible mass graves in Kosovo could be fake, the Dutch daily Algemen Dagblad

[PEN-L:6060] Kosovo Postings

1999-04-27 Thread ts99u-1.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.224]
gh many of the other posts on the list, the assumption/assertation is made that NATO began to bomb to *stop the ethnic cleansing of Kosovo and/or genocide of Albanians*. This is false as there was no ethnic cleansing of Kosovo and no genocide in Kosovo prior to the bombing. If you look at

[PEN-L:6047] Tens of thousands join Kosovo peace rally in Rome

1999-04-27 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
ROME, April 24 (AFP) - Tens of thousands of people took to the streets in Italian cities Saturday in rallies for a "fair peace" in Kosovo and against racism. In Rome, organizers said the demonstration, called by Prime Minister Massimo D'Alema's Social Democrats, drew 150,00

[PEN-L:6038] Re: Kosovo: A Response to the Critics

1999-04-27 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Hanly, Just a reminder: Jeffrey Beatty wrote this, not me. ricardo > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:29:02 -0500 > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "Jeffrey L. Beatty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To:WORLD SYSTEMS NETWORK <[EMAIL PROT

[PEN-L:6044] Re: Re: Kosovo: A Response to the Critics

1999-04-27 Thread Ken Hanly
Beatty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: WORLD SYSTEMS NETWORK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Kosovo: A Response to the Critics > > X-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L:6010] RE: Re: Kosovo: A Response to the Critics

1999-04-27 Thread Max Sawicky
> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:29:02 -0500 > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "Jeffrey L. Beatty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To:WORLD SYSTEMS NETWORK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Kosovo: A Response to the Critics > X-

[PEN-L:6003] Re: Kosovo: A Response to the Critics

1999-04-27 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:29:02 -0500 Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Jeffrey L. Beatty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:WORLD SYSTEMS NETWORK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Kosovo: A Response to the Critics (Apologies for multiple po

[PEN-L:5997] RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Nobel laureates' Kosovo peace initiative!

1999-04-27 Thread Max Sawicky
> That's funny, but you should remember the key official premise of this war > you're supporting, i.e. that Milosevic is the moral equivalent of > Hitler. I The official premise is not mine. If you call refusing to denounce the bombing, and advocating a Nato rescue of Kosov

[PEN-L:5993] Re: RE: Re: RE: Nobel laureates' Kosovo peaceinitiative!

1999-04-26 Thread Jim Devine
Max wrote: >>>Ground troops are the only way to prevent further butchery and rescue Kosova.<<< I asked: >> so you're volunteering?<< His response: >If you volunteer to be a peacekeeper or human rights observer armed with a Swiss Army knife and a copy of the writings of Gandhi, I'll enlist.< Tha

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