Re: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-02-01 Thread Margaret Coleman
Well, I hope you're right too! maggie Nathan Newman wrote: - Original Message - From: "Margaret Coleman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -The only problem with using a reasonable (?) solution to California's problems -as a way to tout democrats over republicans is that it was the democrats

RE: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-30 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
If the Dems don't figure out the energy crisis, they will go the way of Jimmy Carter. Just after I put down the overemphasis on politics, I will add that Davis makes Clinton look like a leftist radical. Michael Perelman What if neither party can figure out a viable solution to the

Re: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-30 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: the overemphasis on politics Eh? Is this some neoclassical virus that's got a hold of you Michael? How can anyone consider economics "progressively" apart from politics? Even something as vulgar as the business cycle is political. Doug

Re: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-30 Thread Michael Perelman
The repugs are in a distint minority. They have no reason to get their hands dirty with a solution. Although deregulation was bipartisan, the Dems took the lead. On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 04:29:57AM -0500, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: If the Dems don't figure out the energy crisis, they will go the

Re: Re: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-30 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't pretend that their is a delinking, but there is a tendency on this list to emphasize politics, concentrating on particular people, especially in discussing issues outside of the U.S. But then, the neoclassical virus may be affecting me without my knowledge. On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at

Re: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-30 Thread Michael Perelman
Only people associated with Nader, and the San Francisco Board of Supervisors have spoken up. Sen. John Burton might turn out ok. He has been giving mixed signals. But then Gene knows far more than any of us about this. The SF Bay Guardian has a full time reporter working on the issue as

RE: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-30 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Michael Perelman says: The repugs are in a distint minority. They have no reason to get their hands dirty with a solution. Although deregulation was bipartisan, the Dems took the lead. Then, this will be a good chance to see if lefties in California stand up to the Dems, offering a

Re: RE: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-30 Thread Eugene Coyle
I've been kind of amazed at the lack of aggressive legal action on the part of So Cal Ed, PGE, the governor, etc., against the FERC. By law, FERC must set rates that are "Just and reasonable." In its Order on Nov 1st, 2000, on the Calif situation, FERC said the rates were NOT just and

Re: RE: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-30 Thread Justin Schwartz
The National Lawyers Guild is the place to start looking. --jks Michael Perelman says: The repugs are in a distint minority. They have no reason to get their hands dirty with a solution. Although deregulation was bipartisan, the Dems took the lead. Then, this will be a good

Re: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-29 Thread Nathan Newman
- Original Message - From: "Jim Devine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:48 PM 01/29/2001 +, you wrote: California's politicians have decided to issue bonds to publicly repay the utilities' debt, with taxpayers gaining stock in the assets of the bailed out corporations. -though it will

Re: Re: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-29 Thread Jim Devine
I'll go out on a limb (without promising heaven) and note that the whole utility debacle in California is a good test of the proposition that Dems are in fact a better alternative to the GOP. California is one of the only states in the country right now where Dems control both houses of the

Re: Re: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-29 Thread Margaret Coleman
The only problem with using a reasonable (?) solution to California's problems as a way to tout democrats over republicans is that it was the democrats who can be blamed for creating the problem in the first place. On another note, according to recent articles in the Wash Post, most of the

Re: Re: Re: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-29 Thread Eugene Coyle
It is true that a significant part of California's "electricity shortage" can be traced to three years of below average rainfall in Washington and Oregon. For decades power has been traded seasonally -- shipped south in the summer, north in the winter. But there is less to come south because of

Re: Re: Re: Re: CA Greenspan

2001-01-29 Thread Jim Devine
At 08:19 PM 01/29/2001 -0600, you wrote: The only problem with using a reasonable (?) solution to California's problems as a way to tout democrats over republicans is that it was the democrats who can be blamed for creating the problem in the first place. It was bipartisanship at its worst.The