Eh? Look at the map of North America. Unlike Siberia we have no northern cities.
All our significant cities are close to the US. Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal,
Winnipeg. Edmonton is about the most northern and it is not all that far from
the border. The far north is the domain of the Inuit. There
Why is population growth a non-issue? Exponential population
growth is no more sustainable than exponential energy
consumption if only because, in the long run, exponential
population growth means exponential energy consumption.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
Assumptions? Exponential growth?
On population. For most of human history populations have fairly stable. There
have been two periods of very rapid growth. The neolithic revolution and the
industrial revolution. In the rich industrial countries, population growth has
stabilized. Why should it
Mark,
The mainstream environmental movement is almost totally focused on what
you call a "red herring" -- population control. There are major and very well
funded efforts underway to take over the environmental issue. The Sierra Club,
the only large group with any form of member input
Eugene Coyle wrote:
Don't you see that Bartlett is defending Capitalism?
Gene,
There are 2 kinds of people: those who understand the problem and those who
are part of it. Bartlett understands the problem. If you read what he says,
he says inter alia that 'there is no population problem:
Rod Hay wrote:
population growth has
stabilized. Why should it not in other areas of the world.
On energy. Why do we have to assume a static energy technology?
For practical
purposes, the amount of energy available is infinite.
Rod, this only shows that you don't understand the problem.
Mark, rarely has anybody included so many ad hominems in one post.
Perhaps this is a record. Please. We are keeping that sort of discussion
off this list.
On another note, I don't understand why you are disagreeing with Gene.
Isn't it true that you and I consume many more resources than the
Population growth may be a problem in one place but not in another. Hereabouts the
problem is not population growth but population decline. Where 60 years ago there
was a large family on every quarter section or so now there is a small family
every 2 or 3 sections. Hog density is increasing
I wasn't honestly aware of any ad hominems, you know I hate that sort of
thing, but if you say so, then it is so, and I'm already falling on my
sword, Maximus Michaelimus.
As for Gene, I'm afraid he misunderstood Bartlett completely, and obviously
misunderstands the issue too.
Mark Jones
It would have been sensible to focus on the real issue, instead of allowing
yourself to get sidetracked by the irrelevancies of population-control. No
doubt middle class white fanatics in the US are capable of nuking the whole
planet rather than give up what they've got, but the fact is that they
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