It would have been sensible to focus on the real issue, instead of allowing
yourself to get sidetracked by the irrelevancies of population-control. No
doubt middle class white fanatics in the US are capable of nuking the whole
planet rather than give up what they've got, but the fact is that they WILL
have to give it up whatever they imagine may be the alternative; and if
fascism is really the likely outcome of the end of the fossil-era, the end
of Big Oil, then why on earth aren't you/we talking ONLY about that danger
and how to ORGANISE against it?
Doug's response ('I'm a bad organiser' etc) is simply and solely a cop-out.
It is a cop-out, and nothing more. It makes him part of the problem.
Mark Jones
http://www.egroups.com/group/CrashList
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eugene Coyle
> Sent: 27 June 2000 23:15
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [PEN-L:20777] Re: RE:"We used 10 times as much energy in the
> 20th century as in the 1,000 previousyears" (fwd)
>
>
>
>
> Mark Jones wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > As for Gene, I'm afraid he misunderstood Bartlett completely,
> and obviously
> > misunderstands the issue too.
> >
>
> I understand Barlett very well. I've heard him speak. The seminars or
> workshops, or whatever they are, are funded and used to incite
> racism among the
> well-off folks who see the same environmental problem that Mark does.
> Bartlett's job, which he embraces with gusto, is to eductate
> these concerned
> white rich folks as to the solution -- and his solution is
> cutting population
> growth in part the world with darker-skinned inhabitants and
> raising fences
> around the US to keep out immigrants. Cut population and go on
> despoiling the
> world with consuming out of your high incomes.
>
> I've gone to other gatherings of the same sort -- (where
> Barlett wasn't a
> speaker) and I must say the hatred of "the other" that pours out of the
> audience as speakers talk about immigration is physically
> frightening. At one
> of them I rushed to get my wife out of the event before we were physically
> assaulted. Pure hate fed by pure fear -- overlain with an
> understanding that
> the environment is in trouble.
>
> The population movement is handsomely funded by the same
> folks who were
> behind sterilization and eugenics in the thirties. Pretty nasty
> people. The
> Pioneer Fund, for one. They are aggressively moving in on environmental
> groups.
>
> There is a relatively new enviro group called "The New
> American Dream" with
> a focus on simple living and cutting consumption. the population
> nuts have
> moved in at the top and are re-focusing the members/audience on population
> rather than consumption, the issue which attratracted them in the
> first place..
>
> Gene Coyle
>
>
