Greg Schofield:
The Popular Front was one of the great modern innovations in effective
political struggle of the working class, at the plain of how communists
should work it relates directly to the Communist Manifesto applying the
same principles to the specific question of anti-fascist struggle.
actually went on the past if we are to have any hope of
knowing what to do in the future.
Greg
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Greg
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I don't understand your position of these issues, Louis. Are you opposed to
cross-class alliances (such as the popular front that Dmitrov advocated)?
but aren't a lot of the third-world causes you support organized as
cross-class alliances? for example, wasn't Peron's movement a cross-class
one?
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Louis this is more guilt by historical association. what
happens in history is obviously complex, contradictory and
all too often ironic. Simply making a simple reduction of the
Popular Front to siding with the bourgeousie
CB: On this issue, what about the fact that fascism _was_ defeated by the
Popular Front.
Do you mean the Allies? I wouldn't exactly call the military alliance
between Stalin and Churchill and Roosevelt a Popular Front. It was a
military alliance between sovereign nations. For that matter, I saw
Re; the Stalin-Hitler Pact. See, Betrayal, by Wolfgang Leonhard. On the
reaction in Western European CP's after the Pact was announced. Leonhard also
has an interesting autobio of his youth in the CP. Published here by right-wing
publisher under the title, Child of the Revolution.
Michael
CB: On this issue, what about the fact that fascism _was_ defeated by the
Popular Front.
Do you mean the Allies? I wouldn't exactly call the military alliance
between Stalin and Churchill and Roosevelt a Popular Front. It was a
military alliance between sovereign nations. For that matter, I saw
CB: On this issue, what about the fact that fascism _was_ defeated by the
Popular Front.
Do you mean the Allies? I wouldn't exactly call the military alliance
between Stalin and Churchill and Roosevelt a Popular Front. It was a
military alliance between sovereign nations. For that matter, I saw
In a message dated 4/24/2002 1:31:01 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg Schofield:
The Popular Front was one of the great modern innovations in effective
political struggle of the working class, at the plain of how communists
should work it relates directly to the Communist
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From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:37:43 -0400
Subject: [PEN-L:25364] Re: Le Pen triumph thanks to ultra-leftists
CB: On this issue, what about the fact that fascism _was_ defeated by the
Popular Front.
Do you mean the Allies? I wouldn't exactly
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In a message dated 4/24/2002 1:31:01 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg Schofield:
The Popular Front was one of the great modern innovations in effective
political struggle of the working
Apr 2002 09:26:22 -0400
Subject: [PEN-L:25263] Re: Le Pen triumph thanks to ultra-leftists
Chris Burford:
Time to read Dimitrov!
For PEN-L'ers who are not up on Communist Party history, Dmitrov was the
head of the Comintern in the late 30s. His contribution to revolutionary
strategy
Not so, but because the sort of left opportunism and
disguised imperialism that Jospin's politics
represents could drive france further to the right and
to the left_ polarisation. also because french
imperial interests abroad are undermined by the US.
and because of a litany of reasons least of
Chris Burford:
Time to read Dimitrov!
For PEN-L'ers who are not up on Communist Party history, Dmitrov was the
head of the Comintern in the late 30s. His contribution to revolutionary
strategy was the People's Front that advocated electoral blocs between
socialist and capitalist parties. It lead
Louis writes:Carrying out the sort of tepid reformism characteristic of the
Peoples Front, the socialist Jospin has done little to distinguish himself
from the bourgeois politicians, so no wonder many workers decided to stay
home.
I agree. I doubt that the Trotskyists in France got the votes
Chris Burford, in the name of Stalin (aka Dimitrov) invokes a
completely nonexistent fascist menace and thereby supports--Chirac!
Typical.
Shane Mage
Thunderbolt steers all
things.
Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64
Time to read
At 22/04/02 14:13 -0400, you wrote:
Chris Burford, in the name of Stalin (aka Dimitrov) invokes a
completely nonexistent fascist menace and thereby supports--Chirac!
I know we all speed read, but this is a bizarre and baseless interpretation
of my letter.
Nor do I wish to imply that radical
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