Re: Re: Re: RE: tompaine.com

2002-06-13 Thread Michael Perelman
Robinson, along with Meek, did to Marx what Samuelson did to Keynes -- show how his work could be interpreted in terms of respectable economics by removing much that is valuable. I doubt that either felt that they were violating the work that they were interpreting. I spent an afternoon with Rob

Re: Re: Re: RE: tompaine.com

2002-06-13 Thread ravi
Carl Remick wrote: >> Attacking people you haven't read and/or barely understand isn't my >> idea of what intellectuals are supposed to do ... > > Unless, that is, what is not understood is not understandable. > by which token sokal is as much a fool as those he ridicules, for i am sure i will

Re: Re: RE: tompaine.com

2002-06-13 Thread Carl Remick
>Attacking people you haven't read and/or barely understand isn't my >idea of what intellectuals are supposed to do ... > >Doug Unless, that is, what is not understood is not understandable. The following is from volume three of Robert Skidelsky's bio of John Maynard Keynes: "Keynes's 'blind

Re: Re: Re: RE: tompaine.com

2002-06-12 Thread Michael Perelman
Speaking of the glorious days of Clinton, I was just reminded yesterday that Ira Magaziner was behind the ICANN mess as well as Hilary's health care fiasco. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: tompaine.com

2002-06-12 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:26794] Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: tompaine.com Doug, I wasn't defending Sokal. Instead, I was arguing against indiscriminate use of political labels, as if we should assume that someone is wrong on all counts just because they're a "social democrat." It'

Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: tompaine.com

2002-06-12 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote: >Similarly, I heard on pen-l that Alan Sokal was a "social democrat." >Who cares? Does his status as a social democrat imply that he's >worse than some creep who runs a small sect of five people which >claims to have the "correct line (or program)"? should we shun Sokal >

Re: Re: RE: tompaine.com

2002-06-12 Thread Louis Proyect
>Yup. I talked with someone who recently >interviewed for a job at DLC, and it was made >clear that they *hate* Kuttner, and would love >to see TAP vaporize. Which, if the rumors are >correct, may be about to happen. > >Doug Kuttner's opposition to Clinton--the quintessential DLC'er--could ce

Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: tompaine.com

2002-06-12 Thread Michael Perelman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > > > -Original Message- > > From: Max Sawicky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:10 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [PEN-L:26774] RE: RE: RE: tompaine.com &g

RE: RE: RE: RE: tompaine.com

2002-06-12 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:26774] RE: RE: RE: tompaine.com Like Max, I really don't care how "left" someone is. It's not like there's a way of measuring such things along some hard-and-fast and objective spectrum. Besides, what's "left" changes over time. Ba

RE: RE: RE: tompaine.com

2002-06-12 Thread Max Sawicky
Kuttner, tompaine.com, and Moyers are political comrades. How much more 'left' one is than the other is a trivial question. How left they all are compared to your ideal, or to what you think is defensible, is more to the point. By the way, Paul Starr, TAP co-editor, is notably less liberal than