Joel Wendland wrote:
>
> >> I too am safely tucked away here in the U.S. I made no claim to be anywhere
> else. But I think my point that brave intellectuals in the west who seem to
> support anything and everything that seems anti-imperalist because it is
> violent has been made.
The content of "
Last comment on this. The mobilization of the general population into
open combat against an occupying army, and/or its private equivalents,
is fundamentally different than "terrorist" bombings. It is the
eruption of the social struggle beyond the limits of both "stabilizing"
and "destabilizing
Avoid being "instrumental," i.e. instrumental to success of others.
Communists have to get involved in the struggle against the
occupation and become leaders of it. Unless they can do that, they
are goners.
--
Yoshie
Who says they are not involved in the struggle against the occupation?
http://ww
I too am safely tucked away here in the U.S. I made no claim to be
anywhere
else. But I think my point that brave intellectuals in the west who seem
to
support anything and everything that seems anti-imperalist because it is
violent has been made.
Joel
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Like the Holy Roman
I disagree that this is the only way. The fact is that the ICP is at the
forefront of the reorganization of the working-class movement in Iraq. It
has led the process of organizing the IFTU, which has come under attack by
the US forces. It has called for the inclusion of Arab nationalist, secular
d
Let's see: the fighters in the streets demanding the withdrawal of US
forces are actually hoping for an extension of US dominated occupation
by displacing other democratic forces that opposed Saddam all along?
What other democratic forces-- those that now sit on the US dominated
governing council?
program by revolutionists. That
means being in the midst, and forefront, of every struggle against the
occupation.
dms
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Point of information:
Iranian workers, organized into workers' councils in the petroleum
sector were instrumental in making the relatively peaceful political
revolution against the Shah a success through the strikes they
enforced. They were rewarded with death for their unity with the
religious te
--- Yoshie Furuhashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
At 10:29 PM -0500 4/10/04, dmschanoes wrote:
> >the fighters in the streets demanding the
> withdrawal of US forces
>
> It is understandable that secular Communists are
> weary of fighters
> inspired by their religious faith, as the latter may
> no
At 10:29 PM -0500 4/10/04, dmschanoes wrote:
the fighters in the streets demanding the withdrawal of US forces
It is understandable that secular Communists are weary of fighters
inspired by their religious faith, as the latter may not have any
fond regard for the former, but the only way that Iraqi
It is pretty clear that uprisings in the last few
days are not "anti-imperialist" but indeed are a struggle for power
within
the framework of the handover by the US on the June 30th. The forces at
the
head of these movements that have emerged in the past few days may have
a
lot to gain by forcing a
At 7:59 PM -0400 4/10/04, Louis Proyect wrote:
Joel Wendland wrote:
Unfortunately the bit of over-dramatic rhetoric below indicates the
lack of "grounding in the reality of events in Iraq" by some on
this list. The statement posted was indeed authentic and was
written by folkswho have lived and str
Joel Wendland wrote:
Unfortunately the bit of over-dramatic rhetoric below indicates the lack of
"grounding in the reality of events in Iraq" by some on this list. The
statement posted was indeed authentic and was written by folkswho have lived
and struggled in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq rathe
Unfortunately the bit of over-dramatic rhetoric below indicates the lack of
"grounding in the reality of events in Iraq" by some on this list. The
statement posted was indeed authentic and was written by folkswho have lived
and struggled in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq rather than "analyzing"
in
Was this written by the Kerry election campaign team? :-P
Paul Phillips
Joel Wendland wrote:
Statement of the Political Bureau: About Recent Events
It is quite clear that these developments do not serve, in any way, the
country s stability, and will not help to resolve any of its numerous
pro
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From: "Joel Wendland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 9:09 PM
Subject: [PEN-L] Will more violence provoke an extension of the US
occupation?
Statement of the Political Bureau
Statement of the Political Bureau: About Recent Events
The recent tragic and grave developments, which have taken place during the
past few days in several cities in Iraq and resulted in hundreds of people
killed and wounded, have only intensified the suffering of Iraqis and
deepened their alread
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