http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1490.shtml
Hope at last for Iraq: not the Iraq Study Group, but signs of unity
against the occupation
By Nicolas J S Davies
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Dec 1, 2006, 01:00
For three and a half years, the only hope for the people of Iraq
Getting back to the original impetus of the thread. First, please
note, the title 'begs the question': that the US government has ever
contemplated a withdrawal of any sort from Iraq. Not being privy to
the goings-on of NSC meetings and the president's war cabinet, the
best we can do is make analy
I don't so much see an unwinding of a housing bubble as the first
signs of unwinding of a CREDIT bubble (all caps for emphasis). And
that bubble has been inflating for a long, long time in the US.
When the things came undone in Japan, they really came undone, in the
stock markets, in real estate,
Well Vietnam was a mire. Did it help the left? Seems to have set up
the US for Reagan.
I still think domestic politics in the US could come around to health
care, retirement and quality universal education if what the federal
government does now (basically run foreign policy so as to spend most
o
Why do leftists need to start discussions with clipped and pasted
garbage from the pro-war zio-expletive deleted likes of a Kenneth M.
Pollack (resident zionist propagandist warmonger for the 'liberal'
Brookings Inst.)? Of course I know the likes of YF or CC are not
misled by this stuff, but I see
It's a nice slogan, but it's more about war and occupation for war and
occupation.
The recommendations being highlighted here are pretty much the ones we
have been reading since the first two transitional governments were
put in place.
The biggest problem being global oil does not like to buy int
On 12/10/06, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
{There wasn't overwhelming interest :-) but I thought I would post this
Bush Alternative Option 1: Cheney and the like minded are urging "choosing
a winner" in the civil war which in practical terms today means the
Shias. They argue that this will be
Yoshie F cross-posts extensively so one is never sure just what one
has replied to. But I think I replied to this on A-List and am now
tracking it down on PEN-L. My argument has been augmented--or padded,
depending on how you look at it. Perhaps if I see the same post on
still yet another list, I
Hmmm what to make of still yet another NYT piece with insider info.
Well, it makes some sense in that SA has to be worried that a fully
Shiite-run Iraq might stir things up with the Shia in SA--and in
places like Bahrain too.
Any talk of 'withdrawal' is simply to delay with the hopes to
pacify--
Which is why the US wants permanent bases in the ME. They could live
with a set up like in S.A. so long as the government(s) in Iraq were
aligned with the US--holding dollars, selling oil the multilateral
way, allowing American interests to make profits , etc.
As I said before, there is hardly an
IF oil remains high, so do the profits of the global oil companies,
too, apparently.
It's always interested me just how the US gets away with more debt
than other countries. However, the Japanese government has had a
fairly free hand in printing up yen in the past 15 years, too.
The alarmism abo
I'm sure this is one of those topics where we have to step lightly and
there is probably no room to wiggle much.
However, there are some points to be made:
If people are supposed to remember the Holocaust (let us hope they
are), then they should also remember the Holocaust against all the
groups
On 12/17/06, Carrol Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Leigh Meyers wrote:
>
> The only viable option: Conscription.
They've got troops all over the world in areas where there is no threat
whatever (e.g., Germany, Okinawa, even South Korea). If the u.s. didn't
feel that it had to "occupy" close to
Does anyone think Sistani is really the country's most venerated cleric?
He isn't wanted in Iran, and I don't think he is much more popular in
most of Iraq either. He isn't on the side of the Resistance and right
now Iraq resists.
CJ
Wow, what lucid analysis from the AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE!
Troop surge or no, they can't clear the Sunni because they haven't
been able to eliminate the Sunni Resistance from the very start.
The clear target is to try and neutralize al Sadr, core of the Shia
Resistance. It might not be an
One follow up.
I should think that since the US has overseen so much of the
destruction of Iraq, it will have no credibility whatsoever at
restoring law and order anywhere in the country, including Baghdad,
especially with a 'troop surge'.
Also, much of the news, such as it is, has now to be rea
On 12/22/06, Marvin Gandall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
CJ wrote:
> The biggest weakness--which occurs a lot--in the AEI analysis is to
> see the Shia in Iraq monolithically. The very existence of the
> Sadrists cuts to the very heart of the conflicts amongst the Shia. In
> the event of a real Ir
On 12/23/06, Carrol Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Gar Lipow wrote:
>
>
> On a policy level, I suspect that minimum goals are to get some puppet
> government to sign over oil rights before it collapses, so that the
> U.S. will have an excuse for imposing sanctions on Iraq after being
> driven out
MG:
The other big difference, of course, with Vietnam is that Iraqi society is
divided between Shias, Sunnis, and Kurds, each pursuing their own agendas -
for the most part under sectarian religious and nationalist leaderships. The
mainly Sunni armed resistance is much narrower, ideologically wea
Wow. This is NEW? Seems rather long-going to me.
Just like Lebanon and Sudan, they will stick to proxies and power
politics (with the US willing to bomb Somalia for old times sake).
Imperial overstretch is real these days.
CJ
On 12/23/06, Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://news.i
^
CB (Yoshie junior): Yes, the establishment of the superbases seems to be THE
war's purpose. The Shah and Israel have been the proxies.
There was a lagtime between the fall of the Shah and U.S. troop buildups in
the Middle East according to the study below, but generally there has been a
buil
About the Sunni Resistance, MG writes (in reply to me earlier):
Reslient, yes - but I'm not sure what you mean by "coherent" and why you
objected to my saying the Sunni resistance is more limited than that which
arose in Vietnam. Is there an organization in Iraq comparable to the NLF
representin
Investigative journalist? More like bad humorist. What dreck. Sorry.
CJ
MG
I doubt we'd have a "history" on another other list either - not one I can
recall at any rate.
I do recall.
Sistani 'opposes coalition plan'
Aljazeera.net
SATURDAY, DECEMBER 23, 2006
Iraq's most revered Shia cleric has withheld support for a US-backed plan to
build a sectarian coalition
Does this shock anybody considering what happened to their former
number one Shia man with Iranian connections, Chalabi?
For one thing--and Repug supporters who think about these things must
be asking--it seems a bit too contradictory to blame the Khobar Towers
bombing on Iran (see recent lawsuit
MG
I posted the Aljazeera piece not in reference to Sistani but to Sadr - to
illustrate that he remains well within the orbit of Shia and Iraqi
government politics and that your contrary belief that he is engaged with
the Sunni resistance in "a coordinated withdrawal of all cooperation" from
the
Your vision of Iraq is needlessly depressing Marvin. Geesh, I even
cite a NYT article appearing in the online edition of IHT, which ought
to make you happy.
Here is the alternative:
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/12/04/bushs_meeting_with_a_murderer.php
Such a government would topple an
The piece de resistance--Merry Christmas Marvin (though give me Peking
Duck any day over that really awful American turkey). This blogger
appears to be on to something: it's national resistance/salvation vs.
permanent occupation and at least most Iraqis now know it. I at least
find the reasoning f
I don't think it's cattiness at all, and now Marvin is asking me to
answer some questions, so I guess he wants me to give still more
information and analysis.
So here goes.
MG:
Allawi? Hashemi? Some salvation! Some front!>>
Evidently all you have to do is oppose the occupation and call for a
On 12/27/06, ken hanly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
News sources routinely report US accusations that
Iran meddles in Iraqi affairs. After any such reports
the news media should make use of the emoticon of the
guy rolling on the floor laughing (ROFL). Imagine a
country halfway around the world that
On 12/26/06, Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 12/25/06, CeJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Investigative journalist? More like bad humorist. What dreck. Sorry.
tell us some details behind your measured judgment, Charles.
Well this one piece or Palast's massive outpu
On 12/27/06, Marvin Gandall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
CJ wrote:
> I'm not really sure what you are waiting on to happen in Iraq Marvin,
> so I'm not really sure what predictions you will see come true. I
> think you have some hidden views about Iraq and Islamists that seems
> to cloud your thin
On 12/28/06, ken hanly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Crimes committed by US soldiers in Iraq are tried
under the uniform code of military justice only
because of an agreement that in effect limits Iraqi
sovereignty. In the Philippines for example criminal
acts at least some of them such as rape are
On 12/28/06, Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am preparing to leave town & do not have time to follow everything for a
while,
but if this tone continues any more you must cease immediately to communicate
like
this!
That was meant quite literally, no tone intended. I guess what y
My last word on the matter--for a while. I seem to read material on
Iraq that my conversant didn't or doesn't.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061227/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_061226224542
BAGHDAD, Iraq - A string of car bombs and other blasts killed at least
54 Iraqis on Tuesday, including 17 outside Ba
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