Moin,
On Thursday 26 January 2006 15:26, Thomas Klausner wrote:
Hi!
I finally found some tuits to work on CPANTS again. As the previous
implementation had some drawbacks, I started from scratch, and from
another direction.
I just uploaded Module::CPANTS::Analyse to CPAN. MCA contains most
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Tels wrote:
However, I am _really really_ starting to wonder whether we need a
Kwalitee rating based on *excessive usage of prerequisites*.
Doing work based on existing CPAN modules instead of reinventing the
wheel by oneself is typically
Moin,
On Friday 27 January 2006 17:42, Dominique Quatravaux wrote:
Tels wrote:
However, I am _really really_ starting to wonder whether we need a
Kwalitee rating based on *excessive usage of prerequisites*.
Doing work based on existing CPAN modules instead of reinventing the
wheel by
Moin,
On Friday 27 January 2006 18:48, Chris Dolan wrote:
On Jan 27, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Tels wrote:
Basically something like CPAN, but with much less network traffic
and much
less hassle for a user. Bonus points if it gives you stuff pre-
compiled
for windows (all those ppl w/o a
On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Tels wrote:
On Friday 27 January 2006 18:48, Chris Dolan wrote:
On Jan 27, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Tels wrote:
Basically something like CPAN, but with much less network traffic
and much
less hassle for a user. Bonus points if it gives you stuff pre-
compiled
for
On several of my modules, the search.cpan.org page shows test
passes/failures, whereas when I follow the link to see the actual list,
there are no tests reported.
eg: http://search.cpan.org/~CRAKRJACK/Class-Driver-0.004/
Usually this clears up in about a day, but in some cases it's been
On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* for windows only
* only includes Foo-Bar, but not it's dependecies
It will auto-install dependencies just like CPAN, I believe. And,
yes, it's currently Windows-only. Didn't you offer bonus points
Moin,
the aforementioned module has entered the CPAN. I put up a few examples
here:
http://bloodgate.com/perl/graph/dependency/examples/
It is:
* a hack, using wget, Module::CoreList, Graph::Easy and graphviz.
* failing for modules that do not have a META:yml file yet
If you want to
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 03:42:58PM +0100, Tels wrote:
I am still considering building something[0] that shows the
module-dependency as a graph to show how bad the problem has become.
[0] As soon as I can extract the nec. data from CPANTS, which has failed
the last two times I tried that
Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* for windows only
* only includes Foo-Bar, but not it's dependecies
It will auto-install dependencies just like CPAN, I believe. And,
yes, it's currently Windows-only. Didn't you offer bonus points for
Windows??
Um, no it isn't!
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:30:47AM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* for windows only
* only includes Foo-Bar, but not it's dependecies
It will auto-install dependencies just like CPAN, I believe. And,
yes, it's currently Windows-only. Didn't you
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:37:01PM +0100, Tels wrote:
Moin,
On Friday 27 January 2006 22:26, Luke Closs wrote:
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 10:30:47AM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* for windows only
* only includes Foo-Bar, but not it's dependecies
Randy Kobes distributes Win32 PPMs for some of the
modules that ActiveState doesn't provide. It is not
entirely automated, so the latest code isn't always
available. But Randy is very helpful if there's
anything you want to see.
http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppms/
-Jeff
I'm somewhat new to
Jeffrey Thalhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Randy Kobes distributes Win32 PPMs for some of the
modules that ActiveState doesn't provide. It is not
entirely automated, so the latest code isn't always
available. But Randy is very helpful if there's
anything you want to see.
On Friday 27 January 2006 14:43, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Part of the problem is that a lot of modules out there are fully
functional even when a few of their tests fail due to assumptions about the
environment they are being tested in. Another part is that the ActiveState
perl package
Moin,
On Friday 27 January 2006 23:55, chromatic wrote:
On Friday 27 January 2006 14:43, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Part of the problem is that a lot of modules out there are fully
functional even when a few of their tests fail due to assumptions
about the environment they are being tested
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 11:56:11PM +0100, Tels wrote:
Given that ppm seems YetAnotherPerlPackager and that even ActiveState
can't get it to build most of the CPAN packages, I am not convinced that
using ppm over CPAN/Module::Build is a good or even working idea.
PPM is much simpler for end
Why do we need to reinvent this wheel ?
Most of the platforms out there have some binary packaging system.
Solaris has their own, Linuxen have rpm/deb or whatever else they have.
ActiveState with its binary Perl distributions have ppm and while that's
not perfect we read that they are working on
Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have just moved to Ubuntu and thought I will try to rely on apt-get
to install my Perl modules. Quckly I hit a wall and could not install some
of the basic modules. I did not have the time to investigate and check
if I made a mistake or if there is a .deb
Yes, CPAN can be a pain; however (kw|qu)alit(ee|y) is not meant to be
a metrics of how easy to install a module is, but rather of whether it
is possible to build something strong upon it, and to do so quickly
and easily. (Or am I mistaken?)
I disagree. A lot of the kwalitee metrics support best
Chris Dolan wrote:
On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Tels wrote:
On Friday 27 January 2006 18:48, Chris Dolan wrote:
On Jan 27, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Tels wrote:
Basically something like CPAN, but with much less network traffic
and much
less hassle for a user. Bonus points if it gives you stuff pre-
On Friday 27 January 2006 23:40, Adam Kennedy wrote:
Something like a clean_install metric. If there are any FAIL entries in
CPAN Testers against the current version of your module, you lose a point.
The PITA-based (what I'm thinking of calling) Vanilla Testers system is
intended for a
I think this would be rad:
- PPM becomes part of the perl core
- All CPAN packages are built to into PPDs automatically on common
platforms
- PPM is extended to allow installing into non-root locations
This would allow non-perl people to install perl packages much easier,
without having
My point is just that what makes PPM so good is that it doesn't futz
about with compiling code and running tests. It just installs the
code and goes home.
But then so does apt-get install libfoo-perl.
The installation is environment specific.
It's just that ActiveState provides a relatively
James E Keenan wrote:
Steffen Schwigon wrote:
Quite often -l (to read from lib/) is enough, depending on your module
build complexity. For -b you have to call ./Build before prove,
which can be annoying and/or difficult to remember.
I'll have to try that out. My modules all use MakeMaker
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