Re: @array = %hash

2002-09-03 Thread Piers Cawley
David Whipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Piers Cawley wrote: Maybe we should just say 'sod it' and implement the entire Smalltalk Collection hierarchy and have done with it? Sets, bags, hashes (dictionaries for the Smalltalker), whatever, all have their uses... I'm not sure if you were being

Implementing new control structures

2002-09-03 Thread Piers Cawley
This came up in a discussion on London.pm about Damian's Perl 6 talk, which led us to wonder about control exceptions and how they're handled. At the moment, control exceptions fall into the 'vaguely handwavy' category, and what follows is my attempt to work out how I think they should behave...

Re: @array = %hash

2002-09-03 Thread Piers Cawley
Damian Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uri Guttman wrote: but what simon was saying (and i agree) is the the pair IS a single item. it becomes the key and its value is 'scalars'. No. If it's a PAIR, then its key is the key and its value is the value. hashes can now take objects as keys

Re: core.ops ARGDIR

2002-09-03 Thread Angel Faus
Hi Leo, This should be - from my (imcc) POV - reflected by these IN/OUT settings: op set(in PMC, in INT) op set(in PMC, in STR) op set(in PMC, in NUM) op set(out PMC, in PMC) # ok, $1 points to $2 now # P[i] = x op set(in PMC, in intkey, in x) # P[KEY] = x op set(in

[perl #16960] [PATCH] assemble.pl dulpicate labels

2002-09-03 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Leopold Toetsch # Please include the string: [perl #16960] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=16960 imcc and assembler did allow duplicate labels. Fix for imcc is ready and

Perl 6 Summary for week ending 2002-09-01

2002-09-03 Thread Piers Cawley
Perl6 Summary for the week ending 2002-09-01 Well, it's been a week. Damian came to London and made our heads spin; perl6-language erupted in a flurry of interesting, high signal/noise threads; Parrot reached its 0.0.8 release; Larry made many of his wonderfully unexpected but

RE: Perl 6 Summary for week ending 2002-09-01

2002-09-03 Thread Venkata Suresh Babu (STP)
Hi team., thanx in advance Can you provide me a link or a zip file where i can download perl6 or perl 5.6 for solaris 7 or solaris 8 Would be appreciated.. cheers venkat -Original Message- From: Piers Cawley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:57 PM

imcc and 0.0.8, should this happen?

2002-09-03 Thread Chris Dutton
Using Mac OS X 10.1.5, on which I've successfully built 0.0.6 and 0.0.7. [localhost:~/parrot.1/languages/imcc] chris% make anyop.o definition of _n_symbols in section (__DATA,__common) make: *** [imcc] Error 1 [localhost:~/parrot.1/languages/imcc] chris% Then when I try to run a simple

Re: core.ops ARGDIR

2002-09-03 Thread Leopold Toetsch
Angel Faus wrote: Hi Leo, This should be - from my (imcc) POV - reflected by these IN/OUT settings: op set(in PMC, in INT) op set(in PMC, in STR) op set(in PMC, in NUM) op set(out PMC, in PMC) # ok, $1 points to $2 now # P[i] = x op set(in PMC, in intkey, in x) # P[KEY] = x

Re: Hypothetical variables and scope

2002-09-03 Thread Peter Haworth
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 23:50:18 -0400 (EDT), Trey Harris wrote: In a message dated 2 Sep 2002, Aaron Sherman writes: { my $x = 2; my $y = The grass is green; $y =~ /(gr\w+) {let $x = $1}/; } Yes. $0{x} would be set to grass. A lexical

[perl #16962] [PATCH] add ICU to the glossary

2002-09-03 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Kevin Falcone # Please include the string: [perl #16962] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=16962 Someone asked on IRC this morning about what ICU is. They mentioned not finding

Re: [perl #16874] [BUG] Concatenation failing

2002-09-03 Thread Leon Brocard
Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether: I have a weird bug where concatenation is sometimes failing Well, this bug is still here. I saw some patches fly by but which of them is the right patch and can it be applied please? ;-) Leon -- Leon

Re: imcc and 0.0.8, should this happen?

2002-09-03 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Chris Dutton wrote: Using Mac OS X 10.1.5, on which I've successfully built 0.0.6 and 0.0.7. [localhost:~/parrot.1/languages/imcc] chris% make anyop.o definition of _n_symbols in section (__DATA,__common) make: *** [imcc] Error 1 imcc had hard-wired version

Re: @array = %hash

2002-09-03 Thread Luke Palmer
Hmm... I think I'd rather see my $foo is Bag = array.as('Bag'); The idea being that one could treat hashes and arrays as syntactic vitamins meaning 'Dictionary' (to use the Smalltalk term) and 'OrderedCollection', but all Collections would implement an Cas method allowing conversion

Re: Hypothetical variables and scope

2002-09-03 Thread Ken Fox
Peter Haworth wrote: Also the different operators used (:= inside the rule, = inside the code) seems a bit confusing to me; I can't see that they're really doing anything different: / $x := (gr\w+) /vs/ (gr\w+) { let $x = $1 } / Shouldn't they both use C := ? Depends on

[perl #16965] [PATCH] Fix some test_prep dependencies.

2002-09-03 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Andy Dougherty # Please include the string: [perl #16965] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=16965 This patch gathers together different testing dependencies into a new test_prep

Re: @array = %hash

2002-09-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 8:48 AM -0600 9/3/02, Luke Palmer wrote: Hmm... I think I'd rather see my $foo is Bag = @array.as('Bag'); The idea being that one could treat hashes and arrays as syntactic vitamins meaning 'Dictionary' (to use the Smalltalk term) and 'OrderedCollection', but all Collections

[perl #16968] [PATCH] Add configuration summary

2002-09-03 Thread via RT
# New Ticket Created by Andy Dougherty # Please include the string: [perl #16968] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=16968 The following patch causes Configure to generate a 'myconfig' file that

Re: Hypothetical variables and scope

2002-09-03 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 11:35, Ken Fox wrote: Peter Haworth wrote: Also the different operators used (:= inside the rule, = inside the code) seems a bit confusing to me; I can't see that they're really doing anything different: / $x := (gr\w+) /vs/ (gr\w+) { let $x = $1 } /

Re: auto deserialization

2002-09-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 03:44 AM, Damian Conway wrote: my Date $date .= new('Jun 25, 20002'); H. That's a very interesting idea. I like it. Looks pretty groovy to me too. It looks like the .= operator, no longer being employed as a string appender, now means use the class I

sub/method refs (was Re: auto deserialization)

2002-09-03 Thread Trey Harris
In a message dated Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Buddha Buck writes: I suspect that, if it makes sense to say $foo = $date.method; then it would also make sense to say $date .= $foo; as well. Interesting, that first line $foo = $date.method; I need a bit of a refresher here, as my searches of the

Re: sub/method refs (was Re: auto deserialization)

2002-09-03 Thread Buddha Buck
Trey Harris wrote: In a message dated Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Buddha Buck writes: I suspect that, if it makes sense to say $foo = $date.method; then it would also make sense to say $date .= $foo; as well. Interesting, that first line $foo = $date.method; I need a bit of a refresher

Re: auto deserialization

2002-09-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 4:21 PM -0400 9/3/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Trey Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] no strict 'refs'; my Date $date; $date .= 'Sep 21, 1963'; There is a method name there--'Date::Sep 21, 1963'. But that's my point. You wouldn't have to put the method name or the class

Re: auto deserialization

2002-09-03 Thread Adam D. Lopresto
On Monday, September 2, 2002, at 03:44 AM, Damian Conway wrote: my Date $date .= new('Jun 25, 20002'); H. That's a very interesting idea. I like it. Looks pretty groovy to me too. It looks like the .= operator, no longer being employed as a string appender, now means use

Re: auto deserialization

2002-09-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will potentially get out of hand quickly I don't think this is a case where out-of-hand-generalization is necessary. I'm only saying that there could be a handy shorthand for a single very common case. Nevertheless, I'll simplify the proposal. Oh, and

RE: auto deserialization

2002-09-03 Thread Brent Dax
Damian Conway: # Though I expect he probably will, since treating classes as # first class entities in Perl 6 implies that capability # (amongst many others). I fear we're treading a little too close to classes being the new filehandles--relatively limited entities with no sigils that confuse

RE: Parrot: maximizing the audience

2002-09-03 Thread Brent Dax
Sean O'Rourke: # Would it be possible to rename perl6-internals now to something # better like parrot-internals? # # I think aliases can take care of this, though I'm not the # sysadmin. Maybe it makes people feel better to send mail to # parrot-internals instead of perl6-internals, but I

Re: auto deserialization

2002-09-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 6:03 PM -0400 9/3/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will potentially get out of hand quickly I don't think this is a case where out-of-hand-generalization is necessary. I'm only saying that there could be a handy shorthand for a single very common case.

Re: auto deserialization

2002-09-03 Thread Miko O'Sullivan
From: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about a JPEG object? Might take a string with the image data, an array with byte data, a filehandle that's got the data to it. But those situations are all covered by the #= concept: call the new method passing the right argument. So for a JPEG that

RE: auto deserialization

2002-09-03 Thread David Whipp
my Date $date .= new('June 25, 2002'); If we're assuming that Cmy Date $date creates an Cundef but isa(Date) object, then that object should be able to overload its assignment operator. I don't know what the perl6 syntax will be, but something along the lines of class Date { method

Re: auto deserialization

2002-09-03 Thread Dan Sugalski
At 7:48 PM -0400 9/3/02, Miko O'Sullivan wrote: From: Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about a JPEG object? Might take a string with the image data, an array with byte data, a filehandle that's got the data to it. But those situations are all covered by the #= concept: We call that

RE: atomicness and \n

2002-09-03 Thread Brent Dax
Damian Conway: # Neither. You need: # # $roundor7 = rx /roundascii+[17]/ # # That is: the union of the two character classes. How can you be sure that roundascii is implemented as a character class, as opposed to (say) an alternation? --Brent Dax [EMAIL PROTECTED] @roles=map {Parrot

Re: [perl #16968] [PATCH] Add configuration summary

2002-09-03 Thread Steve Fink
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 04:59:44PM +, Andy Dougherty wrote: The following patch causes Configure to generate a 'myconfig' file that summarizes the current parrot configuration (much like perl5's 'myconfig' or perl -V output). This patch also includes makefile targets to generate OK

RE: atomicness and \n

2002-09-03 Thread Luke Palmer
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Brent Dax wrote: Damian Conway: # Neither. You need: # # $roundor7 = rx /roundascii+[17]/ # # That is: the union of the two character classes. How can you be sure that roundascii is implemented as a character class, as opposed to (say) an alternation?

RE: atomicness and \n

2002-09-03 Thread Sean O'Rourke
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Luke Palmer wrote: On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Brent Dax wrote: Damian Conway: # Neither. You need: # # $roundor7 = rx /roundascii+[17]/ # # That is: the union of the two character classes. How can you be sure that roundascii is implemented as a character

Re: atomicness and \n

2002-09-03 Thread Jonathan Scott Duff
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 09:57:31PM -0600, Luke Palmer wrote: On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Brent Dax wrote: Damian Conway: # Neither. You need: # # $roundor7 = rx /roundascii+[17]/ # # That is: the union of the two character classes. How can you be sure that roundascii is

Re: Parrot: maximizing the audience

2002-09-03 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 17:03, Sean O'Rourke wrote: On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Markus Laire wrote: Would it be possible to rename perl6-internals now to something better like parrot-internals? I think aliases can take care of this, though I'm not the sysadmin. Maybe it makes people feel better

Re: [perl #16965] [PATCH] Fix some test_prep dependencies.

2002-09-03 Thread Steve Fink
On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 02:55:05PM +, Andy Dougherty wrote: # New Ticket Created by Andy Dougherty # Please include the string: [perl #16965] # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue. # URL: http://rt.perl.org/rt2/Ticket/Display.html?id=16965 This

RE: atomicness and \n

2002-09-03 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 00:01, Sean O'Rourke wrote: On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Luke Palmer wrote: On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Brent Dax wrote: Damian Conway: # $roundor7 = rx /roundascii+[17]/ # # That is: the union of the two character classes. How can you be sure that