At 1:04 PM -0600 9/1/03, Luke Palmer wrote:
Clemens Eisserer writes:
Hi there!
Ië¾m a java programmer
Uh oh :-)
and Ië¾m not really experienced with perl.
[...]
I think that parrot could be the Gnu-version of .NET and could be a
realy benefit for the whole opensource-world. No 20 runtim
At 8:06 PM +0200 9/1/03, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
Hi there!
I´m a java programmer and I´m not really experienced with perl.
But I´ve searched a long time for a system like .NET that can´t be
controlled by Microsoft through Patents.
Do be aware that Microsoft may still hold patents that affect Par
At 6:37 PM +0200 8/29/03, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
I think, we need a general solution for freeze, dump and clone. As shown
the latter is broken. That would be IMHO an iterator interface with a
callback function
At 12:03 PM +0200 8/31/03, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
Benjamin Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
class freezer {
class thawer {
class cloner {
[ big snip ]
Do you expect that these are overridden by some languages using parrot?
I.e. that ponie tries to implement a freezer that writes out
At 11:17 PM +0200 9/1/03, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ heavily snipped ]
Now, for aggregates that hold PMCs ...
... and on JITted cores there's no
win at all.
For aggregates that *don't* hold PMCs, though, that's where the win
is.
If we don't have dire
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ heavily snipped ]
> Now, for aggregates that hold PMCs ...
> ... and on JITted cores there's no
> win at all.
> For aggregates that *don't* hold PMCs, though, that's where the win
> is.
> If we don't have direct operations on aggregate elements but ins
Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2: dynamic bytecode conversion
> (This is the point where someone tells me that dynamic opcode loading now
> works)
No it doesn't. Albeit I have posted a proof of concept standalone
program months ago.
> Nicholas Clark
leo
Hi again!
Wow, thanks for thinking about my ideas. I expected that you call me a
troll, but it seems that there are cool people here ;-)
O.K. lets simply call it class-library.
It doesn't seem to be the Perl way to limit yourself to one option
only ("There's more than one way to do it"). Of cou
Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>
> Benjamin Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >class freezer {
> >class thawer {
> >class cloner {
>
> [ big snip ]
>
> Do you expect that these are overridden by some languages using parrot?
> I.e. that ponie tries to implement a freezer that writes outpu
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:17:07AM -0700, Amir Karger wrote:
> Hi. Hugely newbie at Parroting, but think it's the coolest.
Good stuff. I hope it stays that with the inevitable setbacks and
annoyances that will come while gaining experience.
> - Is it not being ported because of a lack of tuits, o
Nicholas Clark wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 10:13:02PM -0400, Benjamin Goldberg wrote:
> > Nicholas Clark wrote:
>
> > > The attacker can craft a bogus CGITempFile object that refers to any
> > > file on the system, and when this object is destroyed it will attempt to
> > > delete that fi
Clemens Eisserer writes:
(B> Hi there!
(B>
(B> I$BB4(Bm a java programmer
(B
(BUh oh :-)
(B
(B> and I$BB4(Bm not really experienced with perl.
(B>
(B> [...]
(B>
(B> I think that parrot could be the Gnu-version of .NET and could be a
(B> realy benefit for the whole opensource-wor
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 10:13:02PM -0400, Benjamin Goldberg wrote:
> Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > The attacker can craft a bogus CGITempFile object that refers to any
> > file on the system, and when this object is destroyed it will attempt to
> > delete that file at whatever privilege level the CGI
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 12:03:48PM +0200, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
> Benjamin Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >class freezer {
> >class thawer {
> >class cloner {
>
> [ big snip ]
>
> Do you expect that these are overridden by some languages using parrot?
> I.e. that ponie tries t
Here is my personal answer :
--- Clemens Eisserer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But I´ve searched a long time for a system like .NET that can´t be
> controlled by Microsoft through Patents.
I am also concerned about the control of patents, and the DotGnu(TM)
team implementing patented interface
Hi there!
I´m a java programmer and I´m not really experienced with perl.
But I´ve searched a long time for a system like .NET that can´t be
controlled by Microsoft through Patents.
Imagine 10.000 apps need the .NET api ruuning on mono, and microsoft
permits cloning the .NET api.
Maybe 5000 of
I should read the list and respond to the outstanding stuff, but I
should also get this done, and since the former probably precludes
the latter...
Why, exactly, have I spec'd (nay, demanded!) that every darned
operation in a PMC's vtable have a keyed variant?
Simple. A combination of speed an
Andy Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Juergen Boemmels wrote:
>
> > the make shipped with Borland C++ builder doesn't like the makefiles
> > in the current way. I had to tweak the buildfiles a little in order to
> > get it Configure and compile. (It still does not link
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Juergen Boemmels wrote:
> the make shipped with Borland C++ builder doesn't like the makefiles
> in the current way. I had to tweak the buildfiles a little in order to
> get it Configure and compile. (It still does not link but thats
> another story). I removed the appearences
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > Andy Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "closure.pmc", line 21: warning: a cast does not yield an lvalue
> I think that the appended patch will work around the problem, by doing
> the case on the pointer (which is an RVALUE) and then defe
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 10:57 AM +0200 8/29/03, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
>>Dou you have anything about references? I'm thinking about putting in a
>>default C PMC class, which delegates almost all its methods to
>>Ccache.pmc_val>, autogenerated inside pmc2c.pl.
> Yeah, that was
At 10:57 AM +0200 8/29/03, Leopold Toetsch wrote:
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Most objects in Parrot will be dealt with by reference,
Dou you have anything about references? I'm thinking about putting in a
default C PMC class, which delegates almost all its methods to
Ccache.pmc_val>,
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Tim Bunce wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 07:26:25PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
>
> > How does it work? Simple. When a watched resource does what we're
> > watching for (it changes, an entry is deleted, an entry is
> > added [...]
>
> Only after the action being watched is performed I presume
Leo wrote:
> Albeit File::Spec is using catfile and catdir, I don't like the function
> names ("cat file" is on *nix what "type file" is on Win*). Maybe
> concat_pathname and concat_filename is better.
Yes, indeed. I'm for having concat_pathname only since this patch or
the File::Spec module makes
Leo wrote:
> Albeit File::Spec is using catfile and catdir, I don't like the function
> names ("cat file" is on *nix what "type file" is on Win*). Maybe
> concat_pathname and concat_filename is better.
Yes, indeed. I'm for having concat_pathname only since this patch or
the File::Spec module makes
Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, I can't seem to figure out how to make a CSub which calls to a
> user-provided perl sub.
Please use the NCI interface. You can call arbitrary C functions with
it. S. classes/parrotio.pmc or Parrot_compreg() and the docs.
> Thanks again,
> Luke
leo
Vladimir Lipskiy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ my first answer seems to be missing ]
> From: "Leopold Toetsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: TWEAKS: Takers Wanted - Effort And Knowledge Sought
>> Platform code
>> -
>>We need some functions to deal with paths and files like File::Spec
Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Those things are interpreter exceptions -- the program did something the
> interpreter didn't expect. But I think the idea is to make C a
> control exception, much like Perl 6's C or C.
Yep & yep. C already is a (control) exception.
> Luke
leo
Leopold Toetsch writes:
> Luke Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How does one call a parrot Sub from C and get the return value(s)? Is
> > it even possible, given CPS, to do this generally? If not, how can I
> > check when it is?
>
> Good question. Its very similar to classes/Eval.pmc:invoke
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