(sorry, no full build log available for this one, and it takes more than
an hour for me to compile it :)
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while no instance of pugs is running
anymore, and after another minute the "make smoke" exits silently.
I don't think that t/builtins/strings/uc.t itself is the problem,
because it runs in a few seconds if executed manually.
Can anybody reproduce the problem or suggest anything tha
/5.8
/usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8
/usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8
/usr/share/perl/5.8/auto/pugs/perl6/lib
/usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/auto/pugs/perl6/lib
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in case it matters, the "phiscal" directory lies at /mnt/ex/moritz/pugs,
usually I work with a symlink in my home dir (that is /home/morit
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That
seems more reasonable, because the command line arguments are stored in
@*ARGS.
I can't answer your question, sorry ;-).
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Hi,
brian d foy wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Moritz Lenz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> brian d foy wrote:
>>> Under the section "The for Statement" in S04, it says that the diamond
>>> operator
>>&
Hi,
Moritz Lenz wrote:
> for a few weeks now I haven't been able to complete a single "make
> smoke" in the pugs repository.
>
> The last test producing an output is:
> t/builtins/strings/uc.t
> # Actual: ß
>
> at that point there are no more m
Hi,
brian d foy wrote:
> At the moment the file test operators that I expect to return true or
> false do, but the true is the filename.
that helps chaining of file test:
$fn ~~ :t ~~ :x
or something.
If you want a boolean, use
? $fn ~~ :x
or something.
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might be a good idea for a perl6
microgrant: http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/22/1542235
Afaict so far only 2 out of 10 are granted, so ideas and applications
are welcome.
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n code here
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad in writing some critics, but
yours is impossible to realize in Perl 6, and therefore are it's hard to
call it constructive.
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Thomas Wittek wrote:
> Moritz Lenz schrieb:
>>> What makes Perl hard to read is the excessive use of special characters
>>> (/\W/).
>>
>> I disagree: The make it look ugly, but not hard to read.
>
> Even if it's "only" ugly: To what advantage
o implementation will ever finish.
I don't think most of are not open to new point of views, but regard p6
they just don't help atm.
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Moritz Lenz wrote:
> Thomas Wittek wrote:
>> Moritz Lenz schrieb:
>>>> I would also like semicolons to be optional.
>>> Most people don't ;-).
>> Oh, really? Source? :)
>
> I paraphrased Larry Wall. Iirc it was "everybody wants the semicol
gt; Hopefully the patch will make it through to the list.
It did. For the future I'd suggest that you commit them yourself, that's
far more efficient. Just tell us what nick name you want, and somebody
will invite you. If you want a different email address then the one you
used on this list, p
ass and
document it properly. I'm sure you'll end up doing the same as I did.
ATM I don't know that should be implemented, but perhaps somebody else
can think of a good way.
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Thomas Wittek wrote:
> Moritz Lenz:
>> =begin pod
>>
>> =head3 C
>> [..]
>> =end pod
>>
>> method from_string(Str $s){
>> # implementation of that method here
>> }
>>
>> Since method signatures are very expressive in
rpreter/compiler rather hard - why should we stop with this
philosophy when talking about POD and POD-Parser?
I'd find it very annoying to have lines starting with '=' in a heredoc
beeing counted as POD. Humans don't think in terms of lines, but in
terms of visual blocks (at leas
rl.org/perl6/doc is very low.
I'd suggest something beneath <http://svn.pugscode.org/pugs/docs/>,
perhaps essentials/
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rl.org/perl6/doc is very low.
I'd suggest something beneath <http://svn.pugscode.org/pugs/docs/>,
perhaps essentials/
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> language !
You could help by contributing some suggestions to what the new "Web"
module should be able to do, and how so. Web is hopefully "CGI done
right", and still in its early planning stage.
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ould be changed to some extents.
You should discuss that on p5p, not here. Only Perl 6 is on topic here.
> Is there a place where we can add suggestions ? apart from the first one in...
> 2003 ? 4 years ago ?
You can write them here on p6l.
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y invented it just for fun, so we probably need it.
> Does it perhaps belong somewhere else?
I don't know.
Somehow it's good to have parse tests in the test file of the
corresponding feature, but I'm not sure if there is a better solution
here...
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to have them somewhere separately, in an
implementation-specific manner. That would reduce the "wtf?"-effect
while reading the official tests.
Of course all other implementations have to pass them as well...
I'd suggest t/regression/$implementation/ in the pugs repository as th
chromatic wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 June 2007 15:53:59 Moritz Lenz wrote:
>
>> Basically I think that
>> - we need the test somewhere and
>> - it is not a test that one would usually write unless he/she found a
>> regression in one implementation.
>>
>&g
Smylers wrote:
> Moritz Lenz writes:
>
>> You could help by contributing some suggestions to what the new "Web"
>> module should be able to do, and how so. Web is hopefully "CGI done
>> right", and still in its early planning stage.
>
> Web modu
en't read enough real
Perl 6 that is annotated with Pod 6.
So everybody reading this is now condemned to write an OO Perl 6 module,
and document it with Pod 6 ;-)
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your opinion:
* Anything else that should go into the requirements?
* Is it useful at all?
* Is it possible to implement it satisfactory without building a p6
compiler?
* Do you have a good idea for a project name?
Any other ideas and comments are welcome as well.
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he ultimate goal that's true, but for the intermediate goal that I
described in my first mail a name would still be useful - even if it
disappears in the end.
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Juerd Waalboer wrote:
> Moritz Lenz skribis 2007-07-10 12:43 (+0200):
>> $ p6explain '[]'
>> [...] can be
>> * '[$expression]': access to one or more array elements if used as
>&g
Steffen Schwigon wrote:
> Moritz Lenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> considering the vast number of Operators and the like, I had the
>> idea to implement a tool where you can enter a small piece of p6
>> syntax, and it explains what that might mean. (like a perldoc
I can
implement that soonish. Do you have good idea how to do it?
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needs to do its work by annotating an entire compilation unit
> and then making that information available to something resembling
> an IDE. I realize that's a long term goal.
Which leads me to the question: how should the data be assembled so that
it could be used in such a way?
W
Dave Whipp wrote:
> Moritz Lenz wrote:
>> You're probably right about that, but somebody who writes his own macros
>> and operators probably doesn't need such a tool anyway. And should write
>> very good documentation, otherwise he has lost outright.
>
>
Steve Pitchford wrote:
> Moritz Lenz wrote:
>
>>Dave Whipp wrote:
>>
>>
>>>One approach would simply be to edit Perl-6.0.0-STD.pm and add some
>>>markup. To pick a token at random:
>>>
>>>=p6explain *
>>>An asterix
interface called perlhints5.pl (implemented in
p5), and a very basic web interface at
<http://moritz.faui2k3.org/perlhints/>, for example
<http://moritz.faui2k3.org/perlhints/?q=*>. What it lacks mostly is the
data ;)
Currently all data is read from a single flat file.
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estimate about 10
lines per token that contains quote characters (like '{'})
$ wc -l Perl-6.0.0-STD.pm
2701 Perl-6.0.0-STD.pm
$ grep -E "'[^']+'" Perl-6.0.0-STD.pm |wc -l
229
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here are 'pi' and 'e' defined (e.g., in
> the Synopses or other specs)? Do these even belong in the
> test suite?
S29, section "Num":
Num provides a number of constants in addition to the basic mathematical
functions. To get these constants, you must request them:
me sort of constaint on the return value that
> they wouldn't want exceptional values.
return a native type?
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and then interpolated into a regex.
>
> Do capture groups need to be defined at the top level where the
> regex is used?
>
> { # From a code example in the "Parsing" book by Moritz Lenz, p. 48,
> section 5.2
>my $input = 'There are 9 million bicycles in b
etc.)
If you want to contribute to the test suite, please tell us your desired
nick name and you can get a commit bit.
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x27;t think so, and
STD.pm (after which rakudo's parser is modeled) doesn't allow it.
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the long fudgeall help message.
> This patch gives a warning and skips the test, though it probably should be
> a reported (measurable) error.
Applied the patch as r29116, thank you very kindly.
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6 nothing.pl
>
> $
Thank you for your patch, but it produces a lot of test failures
spectest_regression.
So the patch needs more work, but I don't feel competent enough for that
right now.
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chromatic wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 July 2008 03:59:05 Moritz Lenz wrote:
>
>> I'd like to get some feedback on this commit regard platform
>> interoperability.
>>
>> I could only test it on linux, so I'm not sure what could break.
>> (One com
f you tell us what your
strong skills are.
Thank you for your offer to help, it is greatly appreciated.
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://svn.pugscode.org/pugs/t/spec/S29-num/
Patches to rakudo can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], patches to the test
suite either to this list, or you can get a commit bit for the pugs
repository immediately (the tests live in the pugs repo) - just tell me
your desired nick name, and I'll send you an
/jit/i386/core.jit: In function 'Parrot_iseq_i_n_n_exec':
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1519: error: 'DO' undeclared (first use in this
> function)
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1519: error: expected ';' before '{' token
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1519: error: expected ';' before '{' token
> src/jit/i386/core.jit: In function 'Parrot_iseq_i_nc_n_exec':
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1626: error: 'DO' undeclared (first use in this
> function)
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1626: error: expected ';' before '{' token
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1626: error: expected ';' before '{' token
> src/jit/i386/core.jit: In function 'Parrot_isne_i_n_n_exec':
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1519: error: 'DO' undeclared (first use in this
> function)
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1519: error: expected ';' before '{' token
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1519: error: expected ';' before '{' token
> src/jit/i386/core.jit: In function 'Parrot_isne_i_nc_n_exec':
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1626: error: 'DO' undeclared (first use in this
> function)
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1626: error: expected ';' before '{' token
> src/jit/i386/core.jit:1626: error: expected ';' before '{' token
> make: *** [src/exec_cpu.o] Error 1
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Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 01:30:27PM -0700, Moritz Lenz wrote:
>> I read ROADMAP again the other day, and thought about topics that we
>> could offer new hackers to work on, hopefully mostly independent of
>> other items in the roadmap.
>>
i like Complex.angle does)? Or simply fix the test to be agnostic to
complex planes?
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neric one.
Here's the discussion we had on this subject:
http://irclog.perlgeek.de/parrot/2008-06-23#i_362697
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h
> even inside unicode, and adding another layer of complexity will make
> it worse.
I think that distinguishing incompatible character sets is no harder
than distinguishing text and binary strings. It's not another layer,
it's just a layer used in a more general way.
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Jon Lang wrote:
> Larry Wall wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:30:24PM +0200, Moritz Lenz wrote:
>> : Today bacek++ implement complex logarithms in rakudo, and one of the
>> : tests failed because it assumed the result to be on a different complex
>> : plane. (l
Jon Lang wrote:
> Moritz Lenz wrote:
>> Jon Lang wrote:
>>> By the principle of least surprise, I'd recommend against this. Most
>>> programmers, when they see 'sqrt(1)', will expect a return value of 1,
>>
>> And that's what they get un
Carl Mäsak (via RT) wrote:
> Both
>
> $ ./perl6 -e ''
>
> and
>
> $ ../../parrot perl6.pbc -e ''
Also -e 0
> send rakudo into REPL mode, whereas
>
> $ perl -e ''
>
> doesn't.
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to .match probably should not.
>>
>> Pm
>
> I can have .match not set $/ for now and simply return matches based
> on context
IMHO that's the wrong approach. Perl 6 tries not to return stuff based
on context, but to return stuff that will behave right in every context.
So if you just return a match object (that one that would usually ends
up in $/ ) you should be just fine all contexts.
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teger() not implemented in class 'Range' (in
t/spec/S29-array/delete)
* Method 'min' not found for invocant of class 'Int' (in
t/spec/S29-list/minmax)
* No result object (in t/spec/S29-num/abs)
plus a few parse errors.
I also get errors in parrot's PGE tests (I g
Allison Randal wrote:
> Allison Randal wrote:
>> Moritz Lenz wrote:
>>>
>>> I also get errors in parrot's PGE tests (I guess they are known already;
>>> if not I can happily send the details)
>>
>> I get no errors in PGE's tests on Mac O
...)
All comments are welcome.
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, "Foo::Bar::baz", 'chained method dispatch on altered
> method');
>
> is($foo_bar.value, undef, 'value can be used for attribute name in derived
> classes');
> my $fud;
>
> +#?rakudo 2 todo 'various oo bugs'
> lives_ok { $fud =
help $Larry ;-)
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ed from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;evalfiles' pc 1088
> (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:610)
> called from Sub 'parrot;PCT::HLLCompiler;command_line' pc 1267
> (src/PCT/HLLCompiler.pir:699)
> called from Sub 'parrot;Perl6::Compiler;main' pc 14567 (perl6.pir:172)
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( 3.44 usr 0.86 sys + 182.32
cusr 37.70 csys = 224.32 CPU)
Result: FAIL
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Will Coleda wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Moritz Lenz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Eric Wilhelm (via RT) wrote:
>>> # New Ticket Created by Eric Wilhelm
>>> # Please include the string: [perl #57358]
>>> # in the subject line
Eric Wilhelm wrote:
> # from Moritz Lenz
> # on Monday 28 July 2008 09:52:
>
>>> That's not -just- with the patch, though, is it? I presume you've
>>> set TEST_JOBS to be something other than '1' ...
>>
>>I've set it to 2, and obese
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> # New Ticket Created by Moritz Lenz
> # Please include the string: [perl #57032]
> # in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue.
> # http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/Display.html?id=57032 >
>
>
> In parrot as of r295
e 'say substr( "foo", 0, 0 )' # wrong!
> foo
>
> $ ./perl6 -e 'say substr( "foo", 1, 2 )'
> oo
> $ ./perl6 -e 'say substr( "foo", 1, 1 )'
> o
> $ ./perl6 -e 'say substr( "foo", 1, 0 )' # wrong!
> oo
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spectest_regression though (r29906).
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new wording, for Larry (the document owner)
> to have.
>
> --John
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+ 10.83 csys = 381.85
CPU)
real6m24.233s
user6m12.827s
sys 0m11.113s
So no speed improvements for the unoptimized build, but still good news!
(This is on 32 bit i386 Linux)
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1m45.987s
sys 0m7.588s
(llvm is version 2.2). Not better either, but Reini told me that llvm
2.3 might be better.
I also did a 'make testexec' on unoptimized builds, and got tons of test
errors with both compilers.
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would only tell us that there is
> something wrong with their intergration work. IMHO it would be more
> interesting to test with clang which might actually pick up some sort of
> portability issue (or just bugs in clang).
Go right ahead ;-)
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7;d suggest to close this ticket.
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hat C doesn't interpolate.)
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ed by an array index makes
> it though parsing. Is it really valid standard Perl 6 syntax?
Yes. Imagine
class Int is also { method postcircumfix:<[ ]> { ... } }
In general .[] and .{} are just method calls with a fancy syntax, so
they are allowed everywhere (but might throw runtime errors).
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (via RT) wrote:
> Implement eqv and === operators
infix:<===> is already implemented, and from a few quick tests it seems
to work.
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a clarification of what .perl should return here
Some discussions on if and how closures should be clonable via .perl:
http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2008-07-31#i_417160
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ssignment? If
you do a
@a = @b
you get cloning behaviour because the @ sigil implies a container type,
whereas a with a $ sigil you just hand references to objects.
> I would somewhat expect
> a reference to be instead handled using a statement like
>
> $foo[1] := $bar;
>
> Comments and clarifications appreciated.
>
> Pm
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f Perl News". Fill in the title, fill in the
text (note that perlmonks uses HTML. So paragraphs go into ...,
the list of news should go into ... tags). Then click
"Preview", and if everything looks like you want it, to clik "Submit".
No rocket science ;-)
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-
ion should I apply those patches for testing?
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; So, how set array attribute of a class by new method?
I'd expect this to work:
class Dog {
has @.names;
method bark() {
say @.names.join(', ');
}
}
my $x = Dog.new(:names);
# or: Dog.new(name => ('foo', 'bar'))
$x.bark;
but currently it doesn't in rakudo (in does in pugs though)
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CTED]
The recommended way to write such a sub is
sub xsum([EMAIL PROTECTED]) { ... }
xsum(1, 2, 3);
With the * before the @list it is "slurpy", which means that it doesn't
expect one list as the argument, but rather an arbitrary number of items.
If you happen to have an Array already, you can interpolate it:
my @x = 1, 2, 3;
xsum(|@x);
HTH,
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Now added test in t/spec/S06-signature/slurpy-params.t which rakudo all
fails
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Scalar Array,
> and thus the for loop sees only one element.
>
> This probably deserves a tracking ticket at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
Already wrote one:
[perl #58276] AutoReply: [BUG] Can't iterate over list that was passed
as a subroutine argument
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:Match'current instr.: '_block11' pc 60 (EVAL_14:24)]
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> S05:2377:
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> The currently defined methods are
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> $/.from # the initial match position
> $/.to # the final match position
> $/.chars # $/.to - $/.from
> $/.orig # the origi
x27;s first for 'parrot win32').
I think we should improve that situation. Suggestions:
1) A link on http://www.parrotcode.org/source.html
2) A page in the parrot wiki
3) maybe even a separate site (parrot-on-windows.org perhaps?)
Any comments?
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Moritz
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François Perrad wrote:
> 2008/8/23 Allison Randal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Moritz Lenz wrote:
>>>
>>> On #perl6 somebody just asked if there were up-to-date windows builds of
>>> parrot somewhere, he had googled for 'parrot windows'. The parro
Will Coleda wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Moritz Lenz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'd also suggest to move the Packages section further up (directly after
>> Release section), because I hope that more end users than developers are
>> (or will be)
Reini Urban wrote:
> 2008/8/23 François Perrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> 2008/8/23 Allison Randal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Moritz Lenz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On #perl6 somebody just asked if there were up-to-date windows builds of
>>>> parr
for the tests, I'll rewrite them in terms of Test.pm, and add
them to the test suite.
Tests 34 to 36 were a bit overcritical:
(0|undef && say "not ok 34") || say "not ok 34";
(0&undef && say "not ok 35") || say "not ok 35";
Moritz Lenz wrote:
> Tests 34 to 36 were a bit overcritical:
>
> (0|undef && say "not ok 34") || say "not ok 34";
> (0&undef && say "not ok 35") || say "not ok 35";
> (0^undef && say "not ok 36") || say
Larry Wall wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 09:22:25PM +0200, Moritz Lenz wrote:
> : Moritz Lenz wrote:
> : > Tests 34 to 36 were a bit overcritical:
> : >
> : > (0|undef && say "not ok 34") || say "not ok 34";
> : > (0&undef &&a
s well.
The fault is also reproducible when you move sub is_prime to a separate
package and precompile it with
../../parrot perl6.pbc --target=pir Prime.pm > Prime.pir
and then 'use Prime;' in the script.
Maybe that motivates some brave debugging soul...
Moritz
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unlink $generated_log;
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> isn't
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> unlink $generated_log;
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> Sufficient here?
Yes. And since we then use the variable only once, we can just write
unlink 'MANIFEST.configure.generated';
I simplified that in r30541.
Moritz
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in the docs.
Including, but not limited to, references to PDDS that still live in
draft/, but are references to be in docs/pdds/ directly.
What should we do with all these?
You can automatically check if the file exists, but youll get some false
negatives.
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Moritz
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Reini Urban wrote:
> Attached are updates to the cygwin070patches branch.
> Thanks for applying the patches!
applied as r30543.
Moritz
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gwin for 0.7.0-1'
>
> Thanks.
Applied as r30545. Thanks.
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Reini Urban wrote:
> Moritz Lenz schrieb:
>> Reini Urban wrote:
>>> Attached are updates to the cygwin070patches branch.
>>> Thanks for applying the patches!
>>
>> applied as r30543.
>
> And this one also please.
>
> fix cuddled else and some beautification.
Also applied (r30547).
Reini Urban wrote:
> Moritz Lenz schrieb:
>> Reini Urban wrote:
>>> Moritz Lenz schrieb:
>>>> Reini Urban wrote:
>>>>> Attached are updates to the cygwin070patches branch.
>>>>> Thanks for applying the patches!
>>>> applied as
quals or whatever.
Longer operators had long names - too long some times.
So for generated code it's not so uncommon to have long identifiers.
Cheers,
Moritz
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