FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-14 Thread Jared Rhine
[Rod == [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:10:34 -0500] Jared> I haven't yet seen an example presented where using a Unicode Jared> operator would save keystrokes, for instance. Rod> That depends entirely on how you plan to generate them. If you Rod> are relying on a special command in your

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-13 Thread Rod Adams
Jared Rhine wrote: I haven't yet seen an example presented where using a Unicode operator would save keystrokes, for instance. That depends entirely on how you plan to generate them. If you are relying on a special command in your editor of choice, yes, the ASCII equiv is fewer keystrokes. If, ho

FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-13 Thread Jared Rhine
[Pedro == [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 03:40:27 +0200] Pedro> What advantages have to use characters not in standard Pedro> keyboards? Flexibility. Stylistic choice. There is More Than One Way To Do It. Power. Expressiveness. Everything that makes Perl good. Pedro> Isn't it a little sc

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-13 Thread David Storrs
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 03:40:27AM +0200, Pedro Larroy wrote: > What advantages have to use characters not in standard keyboards? Isn't > it a little scary? Well, what do you consider a 'standard' keyboard? The zip operator/Yen sign probably appears on most keyboards in Japan, but on very few i

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-12 Thread Pedro Larroy
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 03:33:34PM +, Smylers wrote: > Gabriel Ebner writes: > > > Joe Gottman wrote: > > > > >The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥). > > > > How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? > > Probably the same way as those with US keyboards do -- US keybo

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-08 Thread Juerd
Tim Bunce skribis 2004-06-08 11:30 (+0100): > I can recommend PuTTY for windows. Secure, small[1], fast, featureful > and free: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ > [1] So small it easily fits on a floppy. I keep a copy on my USB memory drive. So small that even on modem lines, you

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-08 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 11:30:51AM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:52:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > > But when I'm using a > > terminal session, I have found that the only practical way of getting > > consistent behaviou

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-08 Thread Tim Bunce
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:52:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > > My console can be any of several platforms - in the last couple of weeks > it has been a Linux box, a Windows PC, a Mac, a Sun workstation, and a > real vt320 attached to a Sun. My mail sits on a hosted Linux box. To > read i

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-07 Thread David Cantrell
Mark J. Reed wrote: On 2004-06-07 at 21:33:03, David Cantrell wrote: This is what is so wrong about allowing unicode operators - yes, I don't need to write them, but if some other programmer writes one I have to be able to read it. And I can't. Well, for one thing, just because your email program

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-07 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 2004-06-07 at 21:33:03, David Cantrell wrote: > This is what is so wrong about allowing unicode operators - yes, I don't > need to write them, but if some other programmer writes one I have to be > able to read it. And I can't. Well, for one thing, just because your email program doesn't let

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-07 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 04:21:14PM -0400, Mark J. Reed wrote: > Since you've added ? and ? to the list above, I'll add them as well: What's so hard to type about the question mark? And what's so significant that you added it twice? OK, so I know that you really meant to type and . This is wha

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
On 2004-06-01 at 14:10:08, Paul Seamons wrote: > Or for the few Perl emacs people out there: > > C-x 8 Y > C-x 8 < > C-x 8 > I suspect there are more than a "few". I don't think there's anything constitutional about folks who like Emacs that prevents them from liking Perl or vice-versa. Even t

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Paul Seamons
Or for the few Perl emacs people out there: C-x 8 Y C-x 8 < C-x 8 > Paul On Tuesday 01 June 2004 10:27 am, Gabriel Ebner wrote: > Hello, > > Aaron Sherman wrote: > > Well, first off my US keyboard doesn't contain it. > > Sorry, mistakenly picked an US-International chart. > > > Second, you're no

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Gabriel Ebner
Hello, Aaron Sherman wrote: > Well, first off my US keyboard doesn't contain it. Sorry, mistakenly picked an US-International chart. > Second, you're not supposed to. So why has it been chosen then? > Â is a shorthand for "zip", Good to know. > and if you don't want to use the funky one-char

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Gabriel Ebner
Hello, Mark J. Reed wrote: > I assume you mean "with" a US keyboard? US keyboards don't have Â. Oops, must have mistakenly picked an US-International chart, sorry. Gabriel. -- Gabriel Ebner - reverse "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Aaron Sherman
On Sat, 2004-05-29 at 19:04, Gabriel Ebner wrote: > Hello, > > Joe Gottman wrote: > >The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥). > > How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? Well, first off my US keyboard doesn't contain it. Second, you're not supposed to. ¥ is a shorthand fo

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-06-01 Thread Mark J. Reed
> >>How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? I assume you mean "with" a US keyboard? US keyboards don't have ¥. You can use " zip " if you want ASCII. Otherwise, it depends. But Yen is Unicode codepoint U+00A5 = 165 decimal, so you can type it in Windows as ALT + numpad 0165

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-30 Thread Rod Adams
Smylers wrote: Gabriel Ebner writes: Joe Gottman wrote: The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥). How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? On Windows you can probably press Alt Gr then type in some number. Close. AltGr-Minus. If you're using the US-Interna

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-30 Thread Smylers
Gabriel Ebner writes: > Joe Gottman wrote: > > >The zip operator is now the Yen sign (¥). > > How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? Probably the same way as those with US keyboards do -- US keyboards don't have a yen symbol on them either. In 'Vim' I got lucky in guess

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-30 Thread Dave Whipp
It probably depends on what nationality that keyboard is for. If its Japanese, you probably won't have a problem ;-). But for the rest of us, use Vi and Ye (or zip). Dave. "Gabriel Ebner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello, > > Joe Gottman wrote: > >The zip o

Re: FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-30 Thread Gabriel Ebner
Hello, Joe Gottman wrote: >The zip operator is now the Yen sign (Â). How are those without a US keyboard supposed to type this? Gabriel. -- Gabriel Ebner - reverse "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

FW: Periodic Table of the Operators

2004-05-28 Thread Joe Gottman
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Lentczner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Periodic Table of the Operators > > Not to beat a dead horse, but > > I've updated the Periodic table with almost all the changes that p