Re: [GENERAL] 8.0 Beta3 worked, RC1 didn't!

2004-12-21 Thread Michael Fuhr
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 07:06:00PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > The clients connecting remotely... do they support SSL? It looks > like to me that you have ssl enabled. I would check the pg_hba.conf > and the postgresql.conf for your ssl configuration. Was there a change affecting client certi

Re: [GENERAL] 8.0 Beta3 worked, RC1 didn't!

2004-12-21 Thread A. Mous
The SSL line in postgresql.conf has not been touched. By default it should be set to false. Also, the pg_hba file is set to allow all clients in, no authentication (TRUST). I have not seen this problem in any other installation. Note as well, the only way to access the server in question is via

Re: [GENERAL] problems with date

2004-12-21 Thread Richard Huxton
Jamie Deppeler wrote: Hi, having a small problem in a trigger i want to automatically update a date field but when i use for example update table set field = current_date where table.pk = new.pk If "table" is the table with the trigger on it, you'll end up with an endless loop, since the trigger

Re: [GENERAL] weird run-times with pg_autovacuum

2004-12-21 Thread Richard Huxton
Postgres Learner wrote: Hi all! I recently started using pg_autovacuum instead of scheduling vacuum analyzes in a system that needs to be taken to production soon. However, I have noticed something funny that happens while using this. sometimes, some database operations take an unreasonably long ti

[GENERAL] DELETE versus TRUNCATE during pg_dump....

2004-12-21 Thread Patrick Hatcher
Pg 7.4.5 Curious: Why would a DELETE FROM tablename work while a pg_dump is occurring but a TRUNCATE tablename will stay in a lock state until the pg_dump is complete? About 60% of our tables are refreshed daily from our Filemaker database and we don't care if one or more of these tables are e

Re: [GENERAL] Create a cache DB between web portal and internal DB?

2004-12-21 Thread Dick Davies
* Dearman, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1245 05:45]: > I have a requirement from my security manager but I can't seem to find a good > solution. > So I wondered if someone had done something similar. > > We have a web portal and a DB in PostgreSQL (obviously) which contains user > data. > The por

Re: [GENERAL] Problems with pg_restore

2004-12-21 Thread Kaloyan Iliev Iliev
You are right again. I don't want to make permanet changes for this one-time problem. Yes I find a way to Use pg_restore to make a text dump script, and then edit that, and then load it into your newer server. - pg_restore can output to file not only database. I will edit this file. Thanks. Kaloyan

[GENERAL] Problem with database

2004-12-21 Thread lothar . behrens
Hi, I had a crash with my hdd and now I have recovered the database with the directory found in lost and found. Now I get an error, if I try to open the database admin tool PGAdmin III: cannot open relation pg_amop What is missing ? Coul'd this corrected ? Thanks Lothar -

Re: RES: [GENERAL] NewsForge Poll: Favorite open source database?

2004-12-21 Thread Andrew Rawnsley
Ah, the tired old 'turn it into a closed product because its BSD' idea. If it wasn't so prevalent and pathetic it would be funny. Other than the fact that ITS HAPPENED ONCE ALREADY (see Illustra) many moons ago and hasn't managed to derail further development (quite the opposite, actually - PG gr

Re: [GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 12:13:31 +, "Vladimir S. Petukhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > Sorry for my English.. > > I need to organize database structure for saving statistic data for objects. > I > have about 24 * 31 * 4 fields (4 month, 31 days, 24 hours) of data for one > object.

Re: [GENERAL] Create a cache DB between web portal and internal DB?

2004-12-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 17:21:02 -, "Dearman, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a requirement from my security manager but I can't seem to find a good > solution. So I wondered if someone had done something similar. > > We have a web portal and a DB in PostgreSQL (obviously) which c

Re: [GENERAL] Create a cache DB between web portal and internal DB?

2004-12-21 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
A much better way to do this, assuming that the database login uses the actual username/password of the manager in question (if not, see if this can be arranged securely): Assume you have a table with the restricted information. Call it real_data: CREATE TABLE real_data ( accountID INTEGE

Re: RES: RES: [GENERAL] NewsForge Poll: Favorite open source database

2004-12-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Marcelo Cid wrote: suspected the original link you posted: Mike Mascari Excuse me. But I dont tried to spoof the vote. I only copied the link after I voted, so the site returned this link. They used a 'GET method' for the vote, so the link you sent to the list had the same vot

Re: [GENERAL] DELETE versus TRUNCATE during pg_dump....

2004-12-21 Thread Tom Lane
Patrick Hatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Curious: Why would a DELETE FROM tablename work while a pg_dump is > occurring but a TRUNCATE tablename will stay in a lock state until the > pg_dump is complete? TRUNCATE requires an exclusive lock on the table. This is pretty much a no-free-lunch

Re: [GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-21 Thread Vladimir S. Petukhov
Ok, this is a real example: CREATE TABLE account ( val1 BIGINT NULL, val2BIGINT NULL, ... dayposSMALLINTNULL, -- Day position hourpos SMALLINTNULL, -- Hour position idINT NULL -- Link to the object ); On Tuesday 21 December 2004 1

Re: [GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-21 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
Instead of having separate fields for day, hour, ... - why not use timestamp values? On Dec 21, 2004, at 3:47 PM, Vladimir S. Petukhov wrote: Ok, this is a real example: CREATE TABLE account ( val1 BIGINT NULL, val2BIGINT NULL, ... dayposSMALLINTNULL, -- Day pos

[GENERAL] New Fedora 3 install gives: relation "pg_catalog.pg_user" does not exist

2004-12-21 Thread Steve Wampler
I'm trying to install PG 7.4.6 (from Fedora rpms) and keep getting stuck with psql refusing to do anything useful. As a simple example: --- bash-3.00$ createdb postgres CREATE DATABASE bash-3.00$ psql Welcome to psql 7.4.6, the PostgreSQL interactive terminal. Type:

Re: [GENERAL] New Fedora 3 install gives: relation "pg_catalog.pg_user"

2004-12-21 Thread Steve Wampler
Steve Wampler wrote: I don't see any errors when starting with "service postgresql start" - and if I empty out /var/lib/pgsql, the command initializes the database with no errors. To add a bit more information, and correct the above. I wasn't seeing any errors because PGLOG was set to /dev/null in

Re: [GENERAL] New Fedora 3 install gives: relation "pg_catalog.pg_user" does not exist

2004-12-21 Thread Tom Lane
Steve Wampler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm trying to install PG 7.4.6 (from Fedora rpms) and > keep getting stuck with psql refusing to do anything > useful. Are you running with SELinux enforcement mode on? We've just isolated some problems there --- see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla

Re: [GENERAL] Scheduler in Postgres

2004-12-21 Thread Greg Stark
"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 12:07:21PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote: > > > > Csaba Nagy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Now, cron isn't exactly part of the OS, is it ? > > > > Yes, it is. > > Depends on how you define 'OS'. Linux is nothing but a kern

Re: [GENERAL] New Fedora 3 install gives: relation "pg_catalog.pg_user"

2004-12-21 Thread Steve Wampler
Tom Lane wrote: Steve Wampler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I'm trying to install PG 7.4.6 (from Fedora rpms) and keep getting stuck with psql refusing to do anything useful. Are you running with SELinux enforcement mode on? We've just isolated some problems there --- see https://bugzilla.redhat.co

Re: [GENERAL] DELETE versus TRUNCATE during pg_dump....

2004-12-21 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick Hatcher) writes: > Curious: Why would a DELETE FROM tablename work while a pg_dump is > occurring but a TRUNCATE tablename will stay in a lock state until the > pg_dump is complete? DELETE FROM merely has to mark all the tuples as dead, which requires no control over th

Re: [GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 20:47:31 +, "Vladimir S. Petukhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, this is a real example: > > CREATE TABLE account ( > val1 BIGINT NULL, > val2BIGINT NULL, > ... > > dayposSMALLINTNULL, -- Day position > hourpos SMALLINTNU

Re: [GENERAL] Scheduler in Postgres

2004-12-21 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 03:42:22PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote: > > "Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 12:07:21PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote: > > > > > > Csaba Nagy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Now, cron isn't exactly part of the OS, is it ? > > > >

Re: [GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-21 Thread Vladimir S. Petukhov
On Tuesday 21 December 2004 21:21, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 20:47:31 +, > > "Vladimir S. Petukhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, this is a real example: > > > > CREATE TABLE account ( > > val1 BIGINT NULL, > > val2BIGINT NULL, > > ... > > >

Re: [GENERAL] Scheduler in Postgres

2004-12-21 Thread Jim C. Nasby
Sorry to duplicate this but I thought some of you might not have noticed my other email about this. I have registered pgJob at pgfoundary (http://pgfoundry.org/projects/pgjob/). The intention of pgJob is to provide a means to run SQL commands in a database at specified intervals. There is a mailing

[GENERAL] PostgreSQL training curriculum

2004-12-21 Thread Jim C. Nasby
I've been contracted to provide 3 days of PostgreSQL training, and I'm wondering if anyone has curriculum they'd like to share with me, or suggestions for course materials. This course is targeted at database experts who want to come up to speed on PostgreSQL, so it will deal mostly with installati

Re: [GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 00:16:06 +, "Vladimir S. Petukhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 21 December 2004 21:21, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 20:47:31 +, > > > > "Vladimir S. Petukhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok, this is a real example: > > > > >

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL training curriculum

2004-12-21 Thread Doug Quale
"Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am being paid for this training, so keep that in mind if you're a real > GPL zealot. ;) Why would a GPL zealot care if you are being paid to provide training? ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you c

Re: [GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-21 Thread Vladimir S. Petukhov
On Tuesday 21 December 2004 22:00, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 00:16:06 +, > > "Vladimir S. Petukhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 December 2004 21:21, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 20:47:31 +, > > > > > > "Vladimir S. Petukhov

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL training curriculum

2004-12-21 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 04:13:46PM -0600, Doug Quale wrote: > "Jim C. Nasby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am being paid for this training, so keep that in mind if you're a real > > GPL zealot. ;) > > Why would a GPL zealot care if you are being paid to provide training? Maybe 'GPL zealot

Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL training curriculum

2004-12-21 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
Or anything else for that matter? The GPL specifically allows you to charge even for the software (for other people's work, in fact); the catch is that you can't prevent the people you sell it to from giving it away for free, so what's the point ;-) (although companies like redhat and mandrake

Re: [GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-21 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why would it be? The only real advantage to what you are suggesting would be slightly reduced disk space usage, and just maybe *very* slightly improved performance on low-memory servers, or servers with very slow disks, but I find it unlikely that th

[GENERAL] tool for incrementally shrinking bloated tables

2004-12-21 Thread Paul Tillotson
(Originally posted on -hackers, but they were too busy or not interested.) I am thinking about attempting to code this if it is not too difficult for a newbie, but I wanted to see if anyone has any input or ideas first. Goal: on a prduction server, to gradually shrink a table (no matter how large

Re: [GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-21 Thread Vladimir S. Petukhov
I absolutly agree with you, thank. On Tuesday 21 December 2004 22:50, you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Why would it be? > > The only real advantage to what you are suggesting would be slightly > reduced disk space usage, and just maybe *very* slightly improved > per

[GENERAL] ANNOUNCE: DBD::Pg 1.40 release candidate 1 request for testing

2004-12-21 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The release candidate for DBD::Pg 1.40 is now available. This release has a very large number of changes and new features, so if you use Perl and PostgreSQL, please try it out on your platform. A tarball can be found here: http://www.gtsm.com/dbd

[GENERAL] 8.0 Beta3 worked, RC1 didn't!

2004-12-21 Thread A. Mous
Hi all, I'm using psql 8.0.0 on a client's site who's running win server 2003. We've had him on beta 3 for some time, and no problems at all (yes, in a sense, he is a beta tester as well, but doesn't know it!). Today I tried to upgrade the db to RC1 and had some problems. Remote clients connect

Re: [GENERAL] 8.0 Beta3 worked, RC1 didn't!

2004-12-21 Thread Joshua D. Drake
A. Mous wrote: Hi all, I'm using psql 8.0.0 on a client's site who's running win server 2003. We've had him on beta 3 for some time, and no problems at all (yes, in a sense, he is a beta tester as well, but doesn't know it!). Today I tried to upgrade the db to RC1 and had some problems. Remote cli

Re: [GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 01:24:57 +, "Vladimir S. Petukhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, of course, this is example only. > But relation between tables is not important now... It is important for design. You should use a normallized design initially and consider denormalized designs if y

Re: [GENERAL] Need help to organize database

2004-12-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 17:50:06 -0500, "Frank D. Engel, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, given the amount of data you are talking about, and assuming that > you are inserting all of this data in one big lump, you may wish to > VACUUM FULL after doing your INSERTs (not after each one,

Re: [GENERAL] DELETE versus TRUNCATE during pg_dump....

2004-12-21 Thread Patrick Hatcher
Hey there Tom thanks for the answer. However, as you saw I wrote this early in the morning and forgot an important piece of information: The table at the time of the truncate was not being dumped. I could see in pg_stat_activity that it was chugging away at one of the 63M row tables I have. Do

Re: [GENERAL] tool for incrementally shrinking bloated tables

2004-12-21 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 07:09:39PM -0500, Paul Tillotson wrote: > To use this system one would do this: > > (1) VACUUM KEEP_EARLY_FREE_PAGES mybloatedtable; -- item (a) > > (2) UPDATE mybloatedtable SET foo = foo WHERE ctid > '(n, 0)'; > --move tuples in end of the table to the front. > > (3

[GENERAL] replicator

2004-12-21 Thread Jamie Deppeler
Can anyone suggest good open source replicator system for pgsql Thanks JD ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match

Re: [GENERAL] replicator

2004-12-21 Thread Uwe C. Schroeder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 check out slony. works great On Tuesday 21 December 2004 08:56 pm, Jamie Deppeler wrote: > Can anyone suggest good open source replicator system for pgsql > > Thanks > JD > > ---(end of broadcast)--- >

[GENERAL] PostgreSQL 8.0.0 Release Candidate 2

2004-12-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Its been 3 weeks since our first Release Candidate, and we're down to the finally stretch for Full Release, which is looking good for happening before the New Year. A current list of *known* supported platforms can be found at: http://developer.postgresql.org/supported-platforms.html We'

[GENERAL] Interesting performance for function between 7.4.6 and 8.0rc2

2004-12-21 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Hello, First some specifics: OS Linux FC1 1 Gig of Ram IDE RAID 1 array AMD 2200 XP Running both 8.0rc2 and 7.4.6 for testing. The function is a plphp function. The code for the function is below: CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION get_users(bigint[]) RETURNS SETOF resolved_users_type AS ' $userData =