Re: [HACKERS] Version Numbering -- The great debate

2004-08-01 Thread Hans-Jürgen Schönig
Joshua D. Drake wrote: Hello, Version 7.5 is as close to a major release as I have seen in the almost 9 years I have been using PostgreSQL. This release brings about a lot of enterprise features that have been holding back PostgreSQL in a big way for for a long time. All of my serious

[HACKERS] Beta status

2004-08-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, we scheduled beta for August 1, and we are close, but we should get a few more patches in before bundling beta. I have applied all I could from the patch queue. Tom needs to review the rest. Plus we have a nested transaction patch to apply and a little PITR work left to do. We should be

Re: [HACKERS] Beta status

2004-08-01 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
OK, we scheduled beta for August 1, and we are close, but we should get a few more patches in before bundling beta. I have applied all I could from the patch queue. Tom needs to review the rest. Oh, and perhaps once the owner/acl fix patch is in, then whoever commits Fabien's patch to fix

Re: [HACKERS] Beta status

2004-08-01 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
OK, we scheduled beta for August 1, and we are close, but we should get a few more patches in before bundling beta. I have applied all I could from the patch queue. Tom needs to review the rest. Of my three patches, they are all bug fixes, however the USING INDEX TABLESPACE one should

Re: [HACKERS] initdb problem

2004-08-01 Thread Zhenbang Wei
Since not only \ but also other characters that have special meaning to compiler are used by Big5 Chinese characters. Adding an extra \ can make non-Big5 aware environment happy. I think we can get rid of this dirty work by using UTF-8 instead of the annoying Big5 problem. On Sun, 1 Aug 2004

[HACKERS] Build error in HEAD

2004-08-01 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
I'm seeing this: gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/chriskl/pgsql-server/src/port' gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `pg_config.o', needed by `pg_config'. Stop. gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/chriskl/pgsql-server/src/bin/pg_config' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving

Re: [HACKERS] Build error in HEAD

2004-08-01 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: I'm seeing this: gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/home/chriskl/pgsql-server/src/port' gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `pg_config.o', needed by `pg_config'. Stop. gmake[3]: Leaving

Re: [HACKERS] Version Numbering -- The great debate

2004-08-01 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: What was the rule for increasing the first number after just before 7.0? That was just to avoid having to release a 6.6.6, which Jan had clearly been working towards. :-) Seriously, major version jumps correspond to epoch-like changes, like when

Re: [HACKERS] Build error in HEAD

2004-08-01 Thread Bruce Momjian
Fixed. --- Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: [ PGP not available, raw data follows ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: I'm seeing this: gmake[4]:

Re: [HACKERS] Version Numbering -- The great debate

2004-08-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 22:40:52 -0700, Steve Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 8.0.0 suggests, to my customers at least, a brand new release with either massive re-architecting, many new features or both and that's likely to be riddled with bugs. While it would be unlikely that we'd ship

Re: [HACKERS] Version Numbering -- The great debate

2004-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: What was the rule for increasing the first number after just before 7.0? That was just to avoid having to release a 6.6.6, which Jan had clearly been working towards. :-) Seriously, major version jumps correspond to epoch-like

Re: [HACKERS] Version Numbering -- The great debate

2004-08-01 Thread Josh Berkus
Peter, Eventually we'll do the Sun switcheroo and follow release 7.12 by 13.0. Even better, we can have two different, parallel version numbers, so that the next version can be 7.5 *and* 13.0. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] why is postgres-R not in standard dev Path.

2004-08-01 Thread Chris Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (chinni) writes: Postgres-R is a multi server (write anywhere) replication tool which is possibly important for any enterprise if they want to shift to postgres. Did you guys debate on merging it. I seem to recall there being a licensing issue; Postgres-R uses the

Re: [HACKERS] try/catch macros for Postgres backend

2004-08-01 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Lane) wrote: Does anyone have a problem with this macro syntax? The try/catch names are stolen from Java, so I'm figuring they won't terribly surprise any modern programmer, but I'm open to different names if anyone has a better idea. Mitch Bradley, once of Sun, once

Re: [HACKERS] Version Numbering -- The great debate

2004-08-01 Thread Christopher Browne
After takin a swig o' Arrakan spice grog, Gaetano Mendola [EMAIL PROTECTED] belched out: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: What was the rule for increasing the first number after just before 7.0? That was just to avoid having to release a 6.6.6, which Jan had clearly been

[HACKERS] missing link on ftp

2004-08-01 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Hi all, I'm seeing that a link is missing inside the src directory, the last version is 7.4.1 !! There is also something wrong with the doc directory. Regards Gaetano Mendola ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space

Re: [HACKERS] Version Numbering -- The great debate

2004-08-01 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Christopher Browne wrote: After takin a swig o' Arrakan spice grog, Gaetano Mendola [EMAIL PROTECTED] belched out: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: What was the rule for increasing the first number after just before 7.0? That was just to avoid having to release a 6.6.6, which Jan

Re: [HACKERS] Version Numbering -- The great debate

2004-08-01 Thread Tom Lane
Christopher Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that the set of new features here will fairly likely warrant the 8.0 moniker; the 'consistent' way to go would be to call this version 7.5, and then 8.0 would soon follow, and be the release where some degree of improved maturity has been

Re: [HACKERS] missing link on ftp

2004-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Gaetano Mendola wrote: Hi all, I'm seeing that a link is missing inside the src directory, the last version is 7.4.1 !! There is also something wrong with the doc directory. Please provide an exact path for what you are seeing ... everything I see points to 7.4.3, at least at

[HACKERS] Just a quick 'downtime' notice

2004-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Just a quick note that the various VMs for *.postgresql.org will be moved this week to the new server ... I'm hoping to get the main CVS moved over on Wednesday night, and the web site(s) over on Thursday ... it all depends on any problems getting the server into the rack on Wednesday ... For

Re: [HACKERS] Version Numbering -- The great debate

2004-08-01 Thread Doug McNaught
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Huh? That is exactly counter to most people's expectations about version numbering. N.0 is the unstable release, N.1 is the one with some bugs shaken out. If we release a 7.5 people will expect it to be less buggy than 7.4, and I'm not sure we can promise

Re: [HACKERS] missing link on ftp

2004-08-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
k, /pub/src links fixed ... Not sure why we don't have a doc/7.4 directory though ... but, looking in the other directories, those are the PDF versions, and I don't believe anyone submitted PDF versions of the 7.4 docs ... anyone? On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Gaetano Mendola wrote: Marc G. Fournier

Re: [HACKERS] missing link on ftp

2004-08-01 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004, Gaetano Mendola wrote: Hi all, I'm seeing that a link is missing inside the src directory, the last version is 7.4.1 !! There is also something wrong with the doc directory. Please provide an exact path for what you are seeing ... everything I see

[HACKERS] SQL conformance docs

2004-08-01 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
I notice that we can now tick some more stuff off this list: http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/unsupported-features-sql99.html eg. savepoints. Chris ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives?

[HACKERS] dumping large object comments

2004-08-01 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
I just remembered that although we now have COMMENT ON LARGE OBJECT oid, we haven't changed pg_dump to dump and restore these comments. I went ahead and did this, but then realised that I cannot just dump the comments normally as the oid the lob is assigned when it's restored is not