I think the ARC issue is the same with any other patent ...
Recently somebody pointed me to a nice site showing some examples:
http://www.base.com/software-patents/examples.html
Looking at the list briefly I can find at least five patent problems
using any operating system with PostgreSQL.
From
I'm running 'psql.exe -- version' and I'm getting this dialog:
psql.exe - Entry Point Not Found: The procedure entry point
SHGetSpecialFolderPathA could not be located in the dynamic link
library SHELL32.DLL.
I got this for both the version I compiled and psql from the
pgInstaller (both
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 09:22:58AM +0200, Nicolai Tufar wrote:
Greetings,
Patents do not transcend international border. They need
to be applied for in each country separately.
To ease the process of applying for patents in many countries
at once Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT) was
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian pgman@candle.pha.pa.us writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
I'm not convinced Marc got the branching/tagging right; let's wait till
the dust settles.
I IM'ed him and he said to go ahead.
Maybe he said that, but I see no evidence that he's
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian pgman@candle.pha.pa.us writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
I'm not convinced Marc got the branching/tagging right; let's wait
till
the dust settles.
I IM'ed him and he said to go ahead.
Maybe he said that, but
On Jan 18, 2005, at 11:05 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
Hmm. That would seem to have it. Can you check the version on your
SHELL32.DLL?
The MSDN docs for the version in question
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/
shellc
Hi Magnus,
On Jan 18, 2005, at 10:50 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
I'm running 'psql.exe -- version' and I'm getting this dialog:
psql.exe - Entry Point Not Found: The procedure entry point
SHGetSpecialFolderPathA could not be located in the dynamic
link library SHELL32.DLL.
Do you have the IE4
I'm running 'psql.exe -- version' and I'm getting this dialog:
psql.exe - Entry Point Not Found: The procedure entry point
SHGetSpecialFolderPathA could not be located in the dynamic link
library SHELL32.DLL.
Do you have the IE4 Desktop Update installed?
I think so. System
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
Quite so. Only by direct hacking on the ,v files, AFAIK - i.e. NOT
something to be done except in dire emergency. As long as nobody commits
to the branch is there any harm done by leaving it there? I presume all
the committers know which branch they
Hmm. That would seem to have it. Can you check the version on your
SHELL32.DLL?
The MSDN docs for the version in question
(http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/
shellc
c/platform/shell/reference/functions/shgetspecialfolderpath.asp) claims
it needs either Win2k
Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simon Riggs wrote:
So, it also seems clear that 8.0.x should eventually have a straight
upgrade path to a replacement, assuming the patent is granted. We
should therefore plan to: 1. improve/replace ARC for 8.1 2. backport
any replacement directly onto
Hi Magnus,
On Jan 18, 2005, at 1:34 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
1) Declare NT4 without IE4 unsupported. This is by far the easiest :P
What we'd do later is add a check to the MSI installer to inform the
user about this.
Seems a bit gross to say that NT4 is supported, but only if you happen
to have
Hi *,
I have some cylcles left and like to pick up something from the TODO
list.
These are the things I'm interested in:
1) Allow limits on per-db/user connections
2) Allow server log information to be output as INSERT statements
3) Allow GRANT/REVOKE permissions to be applied to all schema
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:15:10PM +0100, Matthias Schmidt wrote:
1) Allow limits on per-db/user connections
Sounds hard to do: what limits? CPU, disk?
2) Allow server log information to be output as INSERT statements
Is this really needed?
3) Allow GRANT/REVOKE permissions to be applied
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:22:58 +0200
Many countries do not grant software patents so it is not
likely
that IBM applied through PCT since a refusal in one
country may
cause to patent to be refused in all countries.
Contrary to popular misconception, virtually all countries
grant software patents.
Matthias Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
These are the things I'm interested in:
1) Allow limits on per-db/user connections
2) Allow server log information to be output as INSERT statements
3) Allow GRANT/REVOKE permissions to be applied to all schema objects
with one
4) Allow PREPARE of
* Matthias Schmidt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
3) Allow GRANT/REVOKE permissions to be applied to all schema objects
with one
This would be nice. I had to write a perl script to do it here. :)
It'd also be nice to be able to specify a set of permissions that will
be inheirited by newly created
Jonah == Jonah H Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jonah Replying to the list as a whole:
Jonah If this is such a bad idea, why do other database systems
Jonah use it? As a businessperson myself, it doesn't seem
Jonah logical to me that commercial database companies would
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 12:45 -0800, Sailesh Krishnamurthy wrote:
Jonah == Jonah H Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jonah Replying to the list as a whole:
Jonah If this is such a bad idea, why do other database systems
Jonah use it? As a businessperson myself, it doesn't seem
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 at 11:53, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
... if someone knows how to safely remove a branch that has had no
commits made to it, please let me know,
a little bit of googling brought me to this:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-cvs/2003-11/msg00166.html
--- snip ---
How
Alvaro Herrera schrieb:
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:15:10PM +0100, Matthias Schmidt wrote:
1) Allow limits on per-db/user connections
Sounds hard to do: what limits? CPU, disk?
Note that a typical server limit, the load average, will not be
portable. There's no WIN32 solution yet.
The CPU load is
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 15:11 -0500, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
There's a very recent paper at
http://carmen.cs.uiuc.edu/~zchen9/paper/TPDS-final.ps on an alternative
to ARC which claims superior performance ...
From a quick glance, this doesn't look applicable. The authors are
discussing buffer
Jeff Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I almost think to not supply an MVCC system would break the I in ACID,
would it not?
Certainly not; ACID was a recognized goal long before anyone thought of
MVCC. You do need much more locking to make it work without MVCC,
though --- for instance, a reader
Tom == Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tom People who hang around Postgres too long tend to think that
Tom MVCC is the obviously correct way to do things, but much of
Tom the rest of the world thinks differently ;-)
It works the other way too ... people who come from the locking
Certainly not; ACID was a recognized goal long before anyone thought of
MVCC. You do need much more locking to make it work without MVCC,
though --- for instance, a reader that is interested in a just-modified
row has to block until the writer completes or rolls back.
People who hang
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 18:43 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
I have already
suggested to core that we should insist on 8.1 not requiring an initdb,
so as to ensure that people will migrate up to it easily from 8.0.
So is it firm policy that changes that require a catversion update
cannot be made during
On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 10:48:00AM +1100, Neil Conway wrote:
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 18:43 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
I have already
suggested to core that we should insist on 8.1 not requiring an initdb,
so as to ensure that people will migrate up to it easily from 8.0.
So is it firm policy
For automatic view update rules we are planning to implement column default
value inheritance, so that the view's column definition inherits from their
base table columns (and nobody has to use an explicit ALTER TABLE view
ALTER col SET DEFAULT ... ). Note that we will do that only for views,
I have made a new release of buildfarm client code, which has some small
bug fixes and enhancements, and also has the substantial changes
necessary to allow the client to run on Windows. That client can be
obtained from http://pgfoundry.org/frs/?group_id=140
I have also made some modest
Magnus Hagander wrote:
According to this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q165695/ Windows
Desktop update was included with IE 4, but not with IE 5 or later.
Further, if you want to install Windows Desktop Update you have to
first remove IE 5 or later. And finally it says that Windows
Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 18:43 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
I have already
suggested to core that we should insist on 8.1 not requiring an initdb,
so as to ensure that people will migrate up to it easily from 8.0.
So is it firm policy that changes that require a
Bernd Helmle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
For automatic view update rules we are planning to implement column default
value inheritance, so that the view's column definition inherits from their
base table columns (and nobody has to use an explicit ALTER TABLE view
ALTER col SET DEFAULT ... ).
I submitted the patches and additional files for the OS/2 port on the
patches ML.
I might as well claim responsibility for that port and put myself down as
the maintainer...
Lorne Sunley
Winnipeg MB
Canada
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On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 23:26 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
Not yet --- I suggested it but didn't get any yeas or nays. I don't
feel this is solely core's decision anyway ... what do the assembled
hackers think?
I'm not sure it's a great idea.
I'm not aware of a recent example of short development
Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 23:26 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
Not yet --- I suggested it but didn't get any yeas or nays. I don't
feel this is solely core's decision anyway ... what do the assembled
hackers think?
I'm not aware of a recent example of short
... not even certain whether an ARC replacement will be needed:
we might be able to adapt the existing code to workaround the
patent, the patent might not be granted, or IBM might grant
us a license to use it. It's also worth emphasizing that this
How about contacting IBM to see where
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