Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-12 Thread Robert Haas
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Robert Haas wrote: > On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > >> Brendan Jurd writes: >>> >>> We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 >>> commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether to start >>> using http://commitfest.postgre

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-10 Thread Josh Berkus
>> I think we might be better off just leaving the closed commitfests up on the wiki, and putting a notice on the app saying "commitfests prior to July 2009 can be found at wiki.postgresql.org". +1. That's why we're switching technogies at the beginning of a dev cycle. -- Josh Berkus Postgr

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-10 Thread decibel
On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Brendan Jurd wrote: We don't AFAIK collect data about these events. However, we could have certain actions trigger the creation of an automated comment (e.g., "Status changed to Committed by petere") and let the aforementioned comment view suffice for a "history".

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Tom Lane
Brendan Jurd writes: > Bear in mind that CF activity over the past week has been in the realm > of 0-4 changes per 24 hours, so it's not like we are talking about > huge amounts of throughput here. Well, it'll be more once commitfest actually starts, but in any case it's not going to be enough to

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/10 Josh Berkus : > >> We don't AFAIK collect data about these events.  However, we could >> have certain actions trigger the creation of an automated comment >> (e.g., "Status changed to Committed by petere") and let the >> aforementioned comment view suffice for a "history". > > Can you put

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus writes: >> We don't AFAIK collect data about these events. However, we could >> have certain actions trigger the creation of an automated comment >> (e.g., "Status changed to Committed by petere") and let the >> aforementioned comment view suffice for a "history". > Can you put in a

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Josh Berkus
We don't AFAIK collect data about these events. However, we could have certain actions trigger the creation of an automated comment (e.g., "Status changed to Committed by petere") and let the aforementioned comment view suffice for a "history". Can you put in a simple event-recording trigger

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Robert Haas
On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Brendan Jurd writes: We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether to start using http://commitfest.postgresql.org to manage it, or punt to the next commitfest and continue to u

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Joshua Tolley
On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 02:35:04PM -0300, Dickson S. Guedes wrote: > This could help, maybe with a RSS in that (like in git). +1 for the RSS feed, if only because I think it sounds neat :) -- Joshua Tolley / eggyknap End Point Corporation http://www.endpoint.com signature.asc Description: Digit

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/10 Tom Lane : > While reorganizing my bookmarks for this I realized that there is a > fairly significant bit of functionality that's entirely missing from > the new app.  With the wiki page, you could conveniently see what had > been done lately by examining the page history.  I don't see an

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Dickson S. Guedes
Em Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:16:41 -0300, Tom Lane escreveu: I'm not particularly wedded to the wiki page history in terms of what it looks like or how it functions, but I do feel a need to know what other people have done recently. May be the new app could have a page with a filterable table log wi

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-09 Thread Tom Lane
Brendan Jurd writes: > We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 > commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether to start > using http://commitfest.postgresql.org to manage it, or punt to the > next commitfest and continue to use the wiki for July. While reorganizing

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-08 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Brendan Jurd escribió: > Short answer: I could bring across the old commitfests but it would > take a couple hours at best per commitfest and result in little bits > of data loss here and there. I think we might be better off just > leaving the closed commitfests up on the wiki, and putting a not

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-08 Thread Chris Browne
robertmh...@gmail.com (Robert Haas) writes: > I suspect both are true, but in the unlikely event that we decide on > some massive change to the system, we can either run the DBs in > parallel as Tom suggests, or dump out the older data in Wiki markup > and post it on there. But I can't imagine what

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/8 Peter Eisentraut : > I have the following concern: Likely, this tool and the overall process will > evolve over time.  To pick an example that may or may not be actually useful, > in the future we might want to change from a fixed list of patch sections to a > free list of tags, say.  Then

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/8 Alvaro Herrera : > > By the way, if the migration of the current commitfest was an automatic > procedure, is there a chance that the old commitfests can be migrated as > well? > It wasn't really automatic as such. I used a few scripts that I saved in case we needed to use them again, but

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Robert Haas escribió: > I suspect both are true, but in the unlikely event that we decide on > some massive change to the system, we can either run the DBs in parallel > as Tom suggests, or dump out the older data in Wiki markup and post it on > there. But I can't imagine what we'd want to do

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Robert Haas
On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: On Tuesday 07 July 2009 11:29:07 Brendan Jurd wrote: We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether to start using http://commitfest.postgresql.org to manage it, or punt to

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Eisentraut writes: > With the wiki, the data of the old fests will pretty much stay what is > was, unless we change the wiki templates in drastic ways, as I > understand it. But if we did changes like the above, or more > complicated things, perhaps, what will happen? Perhaps we simply > d

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > in the future we might want to change from a fixed list of patch > sections to a free list of tags, say. Then someone might alter the > application backend, and we'd use that new version for the next > commit fest at the time. What will that do to the data of old > c

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Tuesday 07 July 2009 11:29:07 Brendan Jurd wrote: > We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 > commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether to start > using http://commitfest.postgresql.org to manage it, or punt to the > next commitfest and continue to use the wiki

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Brendan Jurd wrote: > Maybe you could describe the symptoms you observed? Was the > webserver totally uncontactable, or was it an error in the web app > itself? When I clicked the link to edit the comment, it clocked until the browser timed out. So then I tried the URL for the main page, an

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/8 Kevin Grittner : > Oh, sure -- I post about it being down, and seconds after I hit send > it comes up again.   :-/ > > Do we know that cause? Well, no, since I've never observed it being "down" and I really have no idea what you mean by that. Maybe you could describe the symptoms you obs

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Brendan Jurd wrote: > If you think the app is fundamentally less useful than the wiki, > please say so and we'll work out whether we can resolve your > objection in time for the start of the CF. Oh, sure -- I post about it being down, and seconds after I hit send it comes up again. :-/ Do

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Kevin Grittner
Brendan Jurd wrote: > If you think the app is fundamentally less useful than the wiki, > please say so and we'll work out whether we can resolve your > objection in time for the start of the CF. It's been down for a while now. I don't know if this is causal, but the failure seemed to start w

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-07 Thread Brendan Jurd
Hi folks, We're now about a week away from the start of the July 2009 commitfest, and we need to make a decision about whether to start using http://commitfest.postgresql.org to manage it, or punt to the next commitfest and continue to use the wiki for July. Robert and I have been upgrading the a

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-04 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/3 Robert Haas : > The application stamps comments with the > community login of the person who left them, but the import stamped > them with names instead.  This is actually of some significance, since > the app will allow you to edit your own comments but not those of > other people.  We co

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-04 Thread Robert Haas
On Jul 3, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Robert Haas writes: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Tom Lane wrote: "Kevin Grittner" writes: It seems to be inconsistent. Probably because everything wound up with the same date, the order is probably more-or-less random. Yeah, I think that's

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/4 Tom Lane : > No, what we're complaining about is the ordering of comments for a > single patch. Now moot, since I've successfully pulled the dates for all comments with a message-id from the archives, and updated the database accordingly. Cheers, BJ -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing li

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> "Kevin Grittner" writes: >>> It seems to be inconsistent.  Probably because everything wound up >>> with the same date, the order is probably more-or-less random. >> >> Yeah, I think that's what I'm seeing. > I think what

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/4 Robert Haas : > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> "Kevin Grittner" writes: >>> What >>> are the chances that the date or timestamp of the corresponding wiki >>> modification could be put onto the patch and comment lines?  (One >>> would hope that could be done with a scri

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > "Kevin Grittner" writes: >> Robert Haas wrote: >>> I think it IS newest at the bottom, and I agree that that is how it >>> should be. > >> It seems to be inconsistent.  Probably because everything wound up >> with the same date, the order is proba

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Robert Haas wrote: >>> I accept the need for and am willing to make the following changes: >> >>> - Changing the patch comment field from type text to type textarea and >>> integrating it into the patch view page to provide context. >>> - Adding a note to the effect

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
"Kevin Grittner" writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> Currently, it seems that most or all of the entries are links to >> archived messages. Scraping the date from the underlying message >> would be the best thing. > Just for purposes of conversion, or as a long-term behavior? Well, right at the mom

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Kevin Grittner
Tom Lane wrote: > Currently, it seems that most or all of the entries are links to > archived messages. Scraping the date from the underlying message > would be the best thing. Just for purposes of conversion, or as a long-term behavior? -Kevin -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgs

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
"Kevin Grittner" writes: > Robert Haas wrote: >> I think it IS newest at the bottom, and I agree that that is how it >> should be. > It seems to be inconsistent. Probably because everything wound up > with the same date, the order is probably more-or-less random. Yeah, I think that's what I'

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Kevin Grittner
Robert Haas wrote: > I think it IS newest at the bottom, and I agree that that is how it > should be. It seems to be inconsistent. Probably because everything wound up with the same date, the order is probably more-or-less random. What are the chances that the date or timestamp of the corre

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: >> Backing up for a moment to ten thousand feet here, I posted a link to >> this web app on May 26th.  I received several comments on it, all of >> them positive, including some constructive feedback from you which I >> took to

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > Backing up for a moment to ten thousand feet here, I posted a link to > this web app on May 26th. I received several comments on it, all of > them positive, including some constructive feedback from you which I > took to heart. It is now July 1st, and I am trying very hard

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Andrew Chernow wrote: >> I *am* using some kind of key.  Specifically, in integer derived from >> a serial column.  It's just as stable as 16 random bytes displayed in >> hex, but a lot shorter and easier to remember, if you're the sort of >> person who likes to reme

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Dimitri Fontaine wrote: > Your software seems to be better than a wiki, but its potential users are > expressing needs and bikescheding. I think you'd better accept both kind of > changes as long as it's not making your life much harder than you'd want. > Frankly, wh

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Andrew Chernow
I *am* using some kind of key. Specifically, in integer derived from a serial column. It's just as stable as 16 random bytes displayed in hex, but a lot shorter and easier to remember, if you're the sort of person who likes to remember URLs. :-) Wasn't aware of exately what you were doing.

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Dimitri Fontaine
Hi, Le 3 juil. 09 à 20:44, Robert Haas a écrit : - Adding stable links with mnemonic names for the open, in progress, and most recently closed commitfests. May I suggest something looking about like: http://commitfest.postgresql.org/current http://commitfest.postgresql.org/open http://co

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Andrew Chernow wrote: > The current URL seems to be > http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 > which is both opaque as can be and not looking like it's intended to > be stable over the long term. I'm not sure why you wo

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Andrew Chernow
Robert Treat wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009 11:50:29 Tom Lane wrote: Robert Haas writes: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lane wrote: The current URL seems to be http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 which is both opaque as can be and not looking like it's intended t

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > O.k. I am probably blowing something out of the water here but do we > need yet another domain? Because it's installed on a different VM and I don't want to move it just to make the URL look different? ...Robert -- Sent via pgsql-hackers

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: >> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >>> The current URL seems to be >>> http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 >>> which is both opaque as can be and not looking like it's intended to >>> b

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 14:06 -0400, Robert Treat wrote: > On Friday 03 July 2009 11:50:29 Tom Lane wrote: > > Robert Haas writes: > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > > >> The current URL seems to be > > >> http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 > > >> whic

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Treat
On Friday 03 July 2009 11:50:29 Tom Lane wrote: > Robert Haas writes: > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > >> The current URL seems to be > >> http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 > >> which is both opaque as can be and not looking like it's intended to >

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote: > Robert Haas wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >>> On "suggestions for improvement": I need to be able to bookmark the >>> commitfest summary list (whichever page is equivalent to the old wiki >>> page).  The curre

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >> I tried the "New Patch Comment" feature.  It's absolutely horrid. >> I get a page showing a "comment type" button, one line for Message-ID, >> and one line for Content.  No explanation of what those are, and no >> visibility

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >> The current URL seems to be >> http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 >> which is both opaque as can be and not looking like it's intended to >> be stable over the long term. > I'm not sure why you wou

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Heikki Linnakangas
Robert Haas wrote: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >> On "suggestions for improvement": I need to be able to bookmark the >> commitfest summary list (whichever page is equivalent to the old wiki >> page). The current URL seems to be >> http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/com

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > I tried the "New Patch Comment" feature.  It's absolutely horrid. > I get a page showing a "comment type" button, one line for Message-ID, > and one line for Content.  No explanation of what those are, and no > visibility any more of the patch I'm

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Robert Haas
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > On "suggestions for improvement": I need to be able to bookmark the > commitfest summary list (whichever page is equivalent to the old wiki > page).  The current URL seems to be > http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 > which

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
I tried the "New Patch Comment" feature. It's absolutely horrid. I get a page showing a "comment type" button, one line for Message-ID, and one line for Content. No explanation of what those are, and no visibility any more of the patch I'm trying to comment on. I have no idea what I'm supposed t

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
On "suggestions for improvement": I need to be able to bookmark the commitfest summary list (whichever page is equivalent to the old wiki page). The current URL seems to be http://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/commitfest_view?id=2 which is both opaque as can be and not looking like it's intende

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-03 Thread Tom Lane
Brendan Jurd writes: > Please let us know if you encounter any problems with withe app, or > have suggestions for improvement. It looks like every patch and comment is timestamped ... but with yesterday (the time of data import, I suppose). This is much worse than useless. If you can't get the

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-02 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/3 Jaime Casanova : > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Brendan Jurd wrote: >> 2009/7/3 Robert Haas : >>> Also, we're currently missing the reviewer names >>> due to limitations of the import script; Brendan is fixing this. >> >> Update: The reviewer names have now been populated. >> > > looks

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-02 Thread Jaime Casanova
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Brendan Jurd wrote: > 2009/7/3 Robert Haas : >> Also, we're currently missing the reviewer names >> due to limitations of the import script; Brendan is fixing this. > > Update: The reviewer names have now been populated. > looks good... now, how can i mark a patch

Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-www] commitfest.postgresql.org

2009-07-02 Thread Brendan Jurd
2009/7/3 Robert Haas : > Also, we're currently missing the reviewer names > due to limitations of the import script; Brendan is fixing this. Update: The reviewer names have now been populated. Cheers, BJ -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to yo