On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Heikki Linnakangas
hlinnakan...@vmware.com wrote:
On 04/01/2014 08:39 PM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 03/07/2014 05:36 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabr=EDzio_de_Royes_Mello?= fabriziome...@gmail.com
writes:
Do you think is difficult to implement ALTER
On 04/01/2014 08:58 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2014-04-01 12:56:04 -0500, Jim Nasby wrote:
On 3/4/14, 8:50 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
Can't that be solved by just creating the permanent relation in a new
relfilenode? That's equivalent to a rewrite, yes, but we need to do that
for anything but
On 2014-04-03 13:38:29 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 04/01/2014 08:58 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2014-04-01 12:56:04 -0500, Jim Nasby wrote:
On 3/4/14, 8:50 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
Can't that be solved by just creating the permanent relation in a new
relfilenode? That's equivalent to
On 04/03/2014 01:44 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2014-04-03 13:38:29 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 04/01/2014 08:58 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2014-04-01 12:56:04 -0500, Jim Nasby wrote:
On 3/4/14, 8:50 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
Can't that be solved by just creating the permanent
On 2014-04-01 20:39:35 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 03/07/2014 05:36 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabr=EDzio_de_Royes_Mello?= fabriziome...@gmail.com writes:
Do you think is difficult to implement ALTER TABLE ... SET UNLOGGED too?
Thinking in a scope of one GSoC, of course.
I
On 04/01/2014 08:39 PM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 03/07/2014 05:36 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabr=EDzio_de_Royes_Mello?= fabriziome...@gmail.com writes:
Do you think is difficult to implement ALTER TABLE ... SET UNLOGGED too?
Thinking in a scope of one GSoC, of course.
I think
On 2014-04-03 14:26:50 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 04/01/2014 08:39 PM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 03/07/2014 05:36 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabr=EDzio_de_Royes_Mello?= fabriziome...@gmail.com writes:
Do you think is difficult to implement ALTER TABLE ... SET UNLOGGED too?
On 2014-04-03 13:38:29 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 04/01/2014 08:58 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2014-04-01 12:56:04 -0500, Jim Nasby wrote:
On 3/4/14, 8:50 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
Can't that be solved by just creating the permanent relation in a new
relfilenode? That's equivalent to
On 04/03/2014 02:41 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2014-04-03 13:38:29 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 04/01/2014 08:58 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2014-04-01 12:56:04 -0500, Jim Nasby wrote:
On 3/4/14, 8:50 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
Can't that be solved by just creating the permanent
On 2014-04-03 15:02:27 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 04/03/2014 02:41 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2014-04-03 13:38:29 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
On 04/01/2014 08:58 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
On 2014-04-01 12:56:04 -0500, Jim Nasby wrote:
On 3/4/14, 8:50 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
Heikki Linnakangas hlinnakan...@vmware.com writes:
No-one's replied yet, but perhaps the worry is that after you've written
the commit record, you have to go ahead with removing/creating the init
fork, and that is seen as too risky. If a creat() or unlink() call
fails, that will have to be
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
On 2014-04-01 13:37:57 -0300, Fabrízio de Royes Mello wrote:
In the GSoC proposal page [1] I received some suggestions to strech
goals:
* ALTER TABLE name SET UNLOGGED. This is essentially the reverse of
the
core
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabr=EDzio_de_Royes_Mello?= fabriziome...@gmail.com
writes:
Do you think is difficult to implement ALTER TABLE ... SET UNLOGGED
too?
Thinking in a scope of one GSoC, of course.
I think it's basically the
On 2014-04-01 13:37:57 -0300, Fabrízio de Royes Mello wrote:
In the GSoC proposal page [1] I received some suggestions to strech goals:
* ALTER TABLE name SET UNLOGGED. This is essentially the reverse of the
core proposal, which is ALTER TABLE name SET LOGGED. Yes, I think that
should
On 03/07/2014 05:36 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabr=EDzio_de_Royes_Mello?= fabriziome...@gmail.com writes:
Do you think is difficult to implement ALTER TABLE ... SET UNLOGGED too?
Thinking in a scope of one GSoC, of course.
I think it's basically the same thing. You might hope to
On 3/4/14, 8:50 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
Can't that be solved by just creating the permanent relation in a new
relfilenode? That's equivalent to a rewrite, yes, but we need to do that
for anything but wal_level=minimal anyway.
Maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't this actually involve
On 2014-04-01 12:56:04 -0500, Jim Nasby wrote:
On 3/4/14, 8:50 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
Can't that be solved by just creating the permanent relation in a new
relfilenode? That's equivalent to a rewrite, yes, but we need to do that
for anything but wal_level=minimal anyway.
Maybe I'm missing
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
On 2014-03-04 12:54:02 -0500, Robert
On 6 March 2014 19:42, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Andres Freund
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this isn't a good design. Per the discussion between Andres
and I, I think that I think you should do is make ALTER TABLE .. SET
LOGGED work just like VACUUM FULL, with the exception that it will set
a
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this isn't a good design. Per the discussion between Andres
and I, I think that I think you should do is make ALTER TABLE ..
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I think this isn't a good design. Per the discussion
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Robert
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com
wrote:
I think this isn't a good design. Per the discussion
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabr=EDzio_de_Royes_Mello?= fabriziome...@gmail.com writes:
Do you think is difficult to implement ALTER TABLE ... SET UNLOGGED too?
Thinking in a scope of one GSoC, of course.
I think it's basically the same thing. You might hope to optimize it;
but you have to create (rather
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:36 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fabr=EDzio_de_Royes_Mello?= fabriziome...@gmail.com
writes:
Do you think is difficult to implement ALTER TABLE ... SET UNLOGGED
too?
Thinking in a scope of one GSoC, of course.
I think it's basically the
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
On 2014-03-04 12:54:02 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net wrote:
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the TODO item make an unlogged table logged [1] a good GSoC project?
I'm pretty
On 2014-03-04 09:47:08 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net wrote:
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the TODO item make an unlogged
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
On 2014-03-04 01:10:50 -0300, Fabrízio de Royes Mello wrote:
Today I do something like that:
1) create unlogged table tmp_foo ...
2) populate 'tmp_foo' table (ETL scripts or whatever)
3) start transaction
4)
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
On 2014-03-04 09:47:08 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net
wrote:
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Fabrízio de
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com wrote:
On 2014-03-04 09:47:08 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net wrote:
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Fabrízio de
On 2014-03-04 12:54:02 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com wrote:
On 2014-03-04 09:47:08 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
Can't that be solved by just creating the permanent relation in a new
relfilenode? That's equivalent to a rewrite,
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
On 2014-03-04 12:54:02 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
On 2014-03-04 09:47:08 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
Can't that be solved by just creating
Hi all,
Is the TODO item make an unlogged table logged [1] a good GSoC project?
Regards,
[1]
http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/aanlktinenzbrxdcwohkqbba2bhubfy8_c5jwrxlod...@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the TODO item make an unlogged table logged [1] a good GSoC project?
I'm pretty sure we found some problems in that design that we couldn't
figure out how to solve. I don't have a pointer to the relevant
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the TODO item make an unlogged table logged [1] a good GSoC project?
I'm pretty sure we found some problems in that design that we couldn't
figure out how
Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net writes:
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the TODO item make an unlogged table logged [1] a good GSoC project?
I'm pretty sure we found some problems in that
On 03/03/2014 05:22 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net writes:
...
ISTR the discussion going something along the lines of we'd have to WAL
log the entire table to do that, and if we have to do that, what's the
point?.
IIRC, the reason you'd have to do that is to make the
On 2014-03-03 12:08:26 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the TODO item make an unlogged table logged [1] a good GSoC project?
I'm pretty sure we found some
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the TODO item make an unlogged table logged [1] a good GSoC project?
Another interesting project around unlogged tables would be to make it
possible to have unlogged indexes on fully-logged tables. That is
On 2014-03-03 12:44:26 -0800, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the TODO item make an unlogged table logged [1] a good GSoC project?
Another interesting project around unlogged tables would be to make it
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Hannu Krosing ha...@2ndquadrant.com wrote:
On 03/03/2014 05:22 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
Stephen Frost sfr...@snowman.net writes:
...
ISTR the discussion going something along the lines of we'd have to
WAL
log the entire table to do that, and if we have to do
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Peter Geoghegan p...@heroku.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the TODO item make an unlogged table logged [1] a good GSoC
project?
Another interesting project around unlogged tables would be
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
On 2014-03-03 12:44:26 -0800, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the TODO item make an unlogged table logged [1] a good GSoC
project?
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Andres Freund and...@2ndquadrant.com
wrote:
On 2014-03-03 12:08:26 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
* Robert Haas (robertmh...@gmail.com) wrote:
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Fabrízio de Royes Mello
fabriziome...@gmail.com wrote:
Is the TODO item make an
On 2014-03-04 01:10:50 -0300, Fabrízio de Royes Mello wrote:
Today I do something like that:
1) create unlogged table tmp_foo ...
2) populate 'tmp_foo' table (ETL scripts or whatever)
3) start transaction
4) lock table tmp_foo in access exclusive mode
5) update pg_class set relpersistence
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