Tom Lane writes:
> -m and -M
>
> The utility we designed and possibly any other that wants to process the
> output will find it easier to process a more regularly formed output
> instead of one that was embellished for human viewing. The reason for
> having one with and one without headings is th
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [ some questions about --help-config ]
I got this reply from Fernando Nasser of Red Hat. I suggested he should
post it for himself, but since he hasn't yet...
regards, tom lane
> --- Forwarded Message
>
> Date:Tue,
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [ some fair points ]
I've asked the Red Hat folks who did the detail design to respond to
this. I'm not sure if they had specific use-cases in mind for those
behaviors, or were just trying to make the feature useful for manual
invocation. I would t
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Andrew Dunstan writes:
>
> > I have been wondering if moving to XML for config files might be a good
> > idea - and if there are going to be GUIs that write them that gives some
> > more impetus to the idea.
>
> What I would like to see done is keeping the GUC data, that
Tom Lane writes:
> Gimme a break, guys. There *was* discussion, eg here,
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2003-06/msg01092.php
> and the patch was posted for review, see this thread:
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-patches/2003-06/msg00420.php
I confused this with the privat
Andrew Dunstan writes:
> I have been wondering if moving to XML for config files might be a good
> idea - and if there are going to be GUIs that write them that gives some
> more impetus to the idea.
What I would like to see done is keeping the GUC data, that is, the name,
the properties, and the
Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have been wondering if moving to XML for config files might be a good
> idea - and if there are going to be GUIs that write them that gives some
> more impetus to the idea.
> Or would it be overkill?
Seems like overkill. What would it buy us, othe
Alvaro Herrera writes:
> #: utils/misc/guc.c:647
> msgid "collect statistics about executing commands"
>
> Is this really "statistics" about the executing commands?
Looks like it.
> #: utils/misc/guc.c:892
> msgid ""
> "The number must be a positive integer. If 0 is specified then effort * "
> "
Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
And maybe show the descriptions in pg_settings too?
There was discussion of doing that, but it didn't get done in time
(and it's too late now for 7.4 unless you want an initdb). I wouldn't
mind putting it on TODO for 7.5.
Bruce, you can put
Joe Conway wrote:
> Tom Lane wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>And maybe show the descriptions in pg_settings too?
> >
> > There was discussion of doing that, but it didn't get done in time
> > (and it's too late now for 7.4 unless you want an initdb). I wouldn't
> > mind p
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And maybe show the descriptions in pg_settings too?
There was discussion of doing that, but it didn't get done in time
(and it's too late now for 7.4 unless you want an initdb). I wouldn't
mind putting it on TODO for 7.5.
I think the SHOW ALL output sh
Tom Lane wrote:
The point was to allow a GUI utility to be built that would help in
editing postgresql.conf. It couldn't assume the postmaster is already
running, so just extending the pg_config view wouldn't answer, and
duplicating knowledge of all the GUC variables in a separate tool
would have
And maybe show the descriptions in pg_settings too?
---
Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Dave Page writes:
> >> I find this a little worrying because if we want a feature or tweak for
> >> p
Should we allow SHOW ALL to show these variable descriptions?
---
Tom Lane wrote:
> Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Dave Page writes:
> >> I find this a little worrying because if we want a feature or tweak
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 September 2003 15:23
> To: Peter Eisentraut
> Cc: Dave Page; Alvaro Herrera; Hackers
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] more i18n/l10n issues
>
>
> Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dave Page writes:
>> I find this a little worrying because if we want a feature or tweak for
>> pgAdmin we usually have to fight tooth & nail to justify getting it
>> committed (which is not a bad thing), however 'some guys at Red Hat' are
>> getting s
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Dave Page writes:
I find this a little worrying because if we want a feature or tweak for
pgAdmin we usually have to fight tooth & nail to justify getting it
committed (which is not a bad thing), however 'some guys at Red Hat' are
getting switches added to the postmaste
Dave Page writes:
> I find this a little worrying because if we want a feature or tweak for
> pgAdmin we usually have to fight tooth & nail to justify getting it
> committed (which is not a bad thing), however 'some guys at Red Hat' are
> getting switches added to the postmaster without any discus
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 29 September 2003 01:28
> To: Alvaro Herrera
> Cc: Peter Eisentraut; Hackers
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] more i18n/l10n issues
>
>
> Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
&g
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you put it that way :-) I'll leave it alone. I hope it can be
> enhanced in the next release. I'm not sure of it usefulness anyway;
> the documentation seems good enough.
Some guys at Red Hat wanted it to support an admin tool that should see
the l
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:27:01AM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera writes:
> > [fixes for --help-config]
> I'm quite unhappy about the --help-config option. It was developed
> without discussion, it was installed hastily, we don't have any
> information about that interactive con
Alvaro Herrera writes:
> Oh, there's another thing about the --help-config option. This option
> includes an, er, option to display the items that belong to a given
> group. So you could say
>
> /tmp/pgsql-es/bin/postgres --help-config -g 'Security'
>
> and the list of parameters that belong to
Some more comments:
#: utils/misc/guc.c:647
msgid "collect statistics about executing commands"
Is this really "statistics" about the executing commands?
#: utils/misc/guc.c:892
msgid ""
"The number must be a positive integer. If 0 is specified then effort * "
"log2(poolsize) is used"
Is it mi
Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Now for something completely different:
> The postmaster executable shows --help display perfectly localized.
> However I just noted that postgres --help output (the standalone
> backend) does not; is it not i18n'ed, or is some sort of missetup?
postgr
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 03:36:50PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Now for something completely different:
Oh, there's another thing about the --help-config option. This option
includes an, er, option to display the items that belong to a given
group. So you could say
/tmp/pgsql-es/bin/postgres
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