Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-26 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Stephen Frost wrote: * Marc G. Fournier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: we're not talking load issues this time ... the way I understand it, bittorrent has a 'tracker' process that only one can be running on the "BT Distributed Network" at once ... so, if the bt "central server" goes down, the who

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-25 Thread Stephen Frost
* Marc G. Fournier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > we're not talking load issues this time ... the way I understand it, > bittorrent has a 'tracker' process that only one can be running on the "BT > Distributed Network" at once ... so, if the bt "central server" goes down, > the whole bt network go

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-25 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Thomas Hallgren wrote: Gaetano Mendola wrote: ...so the very first client is the real server that must be run 24/24. I don't think this is correct. You need a tracker for downloaders to be able to find each other but no client is more important than the others. I'm sorry to say that you're wrong.

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-25 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 11:28:31AM -0600, Gavin M. Roy wrote: > To a degree you are correct. AFAIK new downloads could not start if the > tracker crashed. The tracker is the traffic cop that tells peer nodes > about each other. I dont believe the tracker that comes from the main > bit torrent

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-24 Thread Gavin M. Roy
To a degree you are correct. AFAIK new downloads could not start if the tracker crashed. The tracker is the traffic cop that tells peer nodes about each other. I dont believe the tracker that comes from the main bit torrent author allows for multiple trackers with a common data repository, bu

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Joshua D. Drake wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: No you can not, but the tracker isn't very resource intesive from my past experience. I can host it if needed. It wasn't that that I was thinking of ... just wondering if there was some

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-24 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: No you can not, but the tracker isn't very resource intesive from my past experience. I can host it if needed. It wasn't that that I was thinking of ... just wondering if there was some way of having it redundant, instead of centr

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Gavin M. Roy wrote: No you can not, but the tracker isn't very resource intesive from my past experience. I can host it if needed. It wasn't that that I was thinking of ... just wondering if there was some way of having it redundant, instead of centralized ... nice thing abo

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-24 Thread Gavin M. Roy
No you can not, but the tracker isn't very resource intesive from my past experience. I can host it if needed. Gavin Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Thomas Hallgren wrote: Gaetano Mendola wrote: ...so the very first client is the real server that must be run 24/24. I don't think thi

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-23 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 08:43:56PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Thomas Hallgren wrote: > > >Gaetano Mendola wrote: > >>...so the very first client is the real server that must be run > >>24/24. > >> > >I don't think this is correct. You need a tracker for downloaders > >to

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Thomas Hallgren wrote: Gaetano Mendola wrote: ...so the very first client is the real server that must be run 24/24. I don't think this is correct. You need a tracker for downloaders to be able to find each other but no client is more important than the others. can there be mu

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-23 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Gaetano Mendola wrote: ...so the very first client is the real server that must be run 24/24. I don't think this is correct. You need a tracker for downloaders to be able to find each other but no client is more important than the others. Regards, Thomas Hallgren ---(end o

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-23 Thread Gaetano Mendola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc G. Fournier wrote: | On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Thomas Hallgren wrote: | |> Marc G. Fournier wrote: |> |>> What about the Java version that Gavin had mentioned? Aegus or |>> something like that? |>> |> http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ | | | There is a Fr

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-23 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 11:06:40AM -0600, Jeff Hoffmann wrote: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >>The download servers have enough bandwidth to serve any client > >>faster than the client can take. The traffic on the download > >>servers is not reduced, only distributed differently. I don't see > >>a

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-23 Thread Stephen Frost
* Marc G. Fournier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > >The download servers have enough bandwidth to serve any client faster than > >the client can take. The traffic on the download servers is not reduced, > >only distributed differently. I don't see any a

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-23 Thread Jeff Hoffmann
Marc G. Fournier wrote: The download servers have enough bandwidth to serve any client faster than the client can take. The traffic on the download servers is not reduced, only distributed differently. I don't see any advantage. Actually, and here is where I exhibit my total lack of knowledge o

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Am Montag, 22. November 2004 17:40 schrieb David Fetter: A much slimmed-down bt.postgresql.org is now serving it. :) Out of curiosity, what purpose does a bittorrent source serve in this case? I've always just seen it as an alternative option for downloa

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-23 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 05:33:15PM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Am Montag, 22. November 2004 17:40 schrieb David Fetter: > > A much slimmed-down bt.postgresql.org is now serving it. :) > > Out of curiosity, what purpose does a bittorrent source serve in > this case? BitTorrent was designed to

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-23 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Montag, 22. November 2004 17:40 schrieb David Fetter: > A much slimmed-down bt.postgresql.org is now serving it. :) Out of curiosity, what purpose does a bittorrent source serve in this case? The download servers have enough bandwidth to serve any client faster than the client can take. The

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-22 Thread Gavin M. Roy
It's all peer to peer client type stuff with the exception of the tracker server. Gavin Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Thomas Hallgren wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: What about the Java version that Gavin had mentioned? Aegus or something like that? http://azureus.sourceforge.net

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-22 Thread Gavin M. Roy
The problem is it requires a box with X on it. (ie it's not console Java, it's gui java) I don't have a server to run it on right now, but will be readdressing server allocations shortly and may be able to set something up with x/vnc and would be happy to use that as a primary bt seeding site

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-22 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Marc G. Fournier wrote: There is a FreeBSD port of it also but it says "A BitTorrent client written in Java" ... does it work as server too, or, by its nature, are servers == clients in Bittorrent? :) Yes. While you're downloading, others might pick bits and pieces from the segmetns that you've

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, Thomas Hallgren wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: What about the Java version that Gavin had mentioned? Aegus or something like that? http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ There is a FreeBSD port of it also but it says "A BitTorrent client written in Java" ... does it work as server

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-22 Thread Thomas Hallgren
Marc G. Fournier wrote: What about the Java version that Gavin had mentioned? Aegus or something like that? http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ Regards, Thomas Hallgren ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, David Fetter wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 12:49:25PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, David Fetter wrote: On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 11:40:29PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check her out and let me know if there are any problems ... I've changed the mk scrip

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-22 Thread David Fetter
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 12:49:25PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, David Fetter wrote: > > >On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 11:40:29PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> > >>Check her out and let me know if there are any problems ... I've > >>changed the mk script to pull in the bet

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-22 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004, David Fetter wrote: On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 11:40:29PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check her out and let me know if there are any problems ... I've changed the mk script to pull in the beta3 man pages that I found in the dev/doc directory ... A much slimmed-down bt.postgresq

Re: [HACKERS] Beta5 now Available

2004-11-22 Thread David Fetter
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 11:40:29PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Check her out and let me know if there are any problems ... I've > changed the mk script to pull in the beta3 man pages that I found > in the dev/doc directory ... A much slimmed-down bt.postgresql.org is now serving it. :) Ch