Re: [HACKERS] New Portal in Place, DNS switched ...

2003-01-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Vince Vielhaber wrote: On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Marc G. Fournier writes: I'm just announcing here, since I'd like to see some ppl testing this out and let us know if there are any problems ... DNS is going to take a little while to propogate

Re: [HACKERS] New Portal in Place, DNS switched ...

2003-01-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Neil Conway wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 13:26, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, mlw wrote: The PHP site shows adds. Ok -- but the vast majority (say, 95%) of OSS sites don't show ads. Guess that makes us part of the elite 5% that do, eh? You had me

Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Thank-you to Cybertec Geschwinde

2003-01-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
*raised eyebrow* Someone want to scan and post one of these? On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: Lamar Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 January 2003 06:12 To: Christopher Kings-Lynne; Hackers; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS]

[HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Is there any way of fixing the following? 164_459_openacs= \d ERROR: parser: parse error at or near . 164_459_openacs= We've started to upgrade the client machines, before upgrading the server itself, but it looks like the psql client isn't backwards compatible?

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Marc G. Fournier writes: We've started to upgrade the client machines, before upgrading the server itself, but it looks like the psql client isn't backwards compatible? The meta-commands are not, because they now need to be schema aware. How

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Marc G. Fournier writes: We've started to upgrade the client machines, before upgrading the server itself, but it looks like the psql client isn't backwards compatible

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right. It is just the _cruft_ factor that has prevented us from doing it in the past. We've never before attempted to make psql cope with back-version servers. It might be a good idea in future --- but it

Re: [HACKERS] Can we revisit the thought of PostgreSQL 7.2.4?

2003-01-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Tom Lane wrote: PS: I'm not taking a position on Justin's suggestion that there should be a 7.2.4. Marc and Bruce would be the ones who have to do the work, so they get to make the decision... I have no problems creating one ... Bruce? ---(end

Re: [HACKERS] Release Scheduales: 7.2.4 7.3.2

2003-01-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Robert Treat wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 14:23, Marc G. Fournier wrote: If anyone has any 'last minute' issues they would like to see in either, please speak now or forever hold your peace :) Can someone post a changelog for these releases? Also what tags

Re: [HACKERS] interactive docs error

2003-01-27 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Already fixed ... one of those things where per-db connection limits would have been helpful :( On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Dave Cramer wrote: Warning: pg_connect() unable to connect to PostgreSQL server: FATAL 1: Sorry, too many clients already in

[HACKERS] v7.2.4 bundled ...

2003-01-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Morning all ... I jsut bundled up v7.2.4 with all the recent security fixes ... can a few ppl do some regression tests and report back before I announce in the morning? I did a configure and build here and all looks fine, but some confirmations is always nice ;)

Re: [HACKERS] v7.2.4 bundled ...

2003-01-30 Thread Marc G. Fournier
7.2.x isn't bison 1.75 compatible ... and most likely never will be ... On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Rod Taylor wrote: I jsut bundled up v7.2.4 with all the recent security fixes ... can a few ppl do some regression tests and report back before I announce in the morning? I did a configure

[HACKERS] Just a test, only a test ...

2003-01-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Neil Conway wrote: Folks, I think we should PGP sign all the official packages that are provided for download from the various mirror sites. IMHO, this is important because: - ensuring that end users can trust PostgreSQL is an important part to getting the product used

[HACKERS] v7.3.2 Tag'd and Bundle'd ...

2003-02-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Will announce tomorrow morning if there are no issues with it ... %ls -lt ~ftp/pub/source/v7.3.2 total 21677 -rw-r--r-- 1 pgsql pgsql70 Feb 3 11:36 postgresql-test-7.3.2.tar.gz.md5 -rw-r--r-- 1 pgsql pgsql65 Feb 3 11:36 postgresql-7.3.2.tar.gz.md5 -rw-r--r-- 1 pgsql pgsql

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.2 Tag'd and Bundle'd ...

2003-02-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
oh joy, here we go again ... you are right, my mistake :( I copied out of peter's directory ... fixing now ... On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Lamar Owen wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 11:38, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Will announce tomorrow morning if there are no issues with it ... Where did

[HACKERS] PGP Signing ...

2003-02-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing release

2003-02-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: I hate to poo-poo this, but this web of trust sounds more like a web of confusion. I liked the idea of mentioning the MD5 in the email announcement. It doesn't require much extra work, and doesn't require a 'web of %$* to be set up to check things.

[HACKERS] ignore yet another test ...

2003-03-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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[HACKERS] Testing ... ignore ...

2003-03-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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[HACKERS] test to be ignored ...

2003-03-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Re: [HACKERS] Who puts the Windows binaries on the FTP server?

2003-03-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Justin put them up, but I believe that any bug reports for them should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: There are Windows binaries on the PostgreSQL FTP server mirrors, for example,

[HACKERS] Bad crash, pg_clog files missing ... ?

2003-03-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Any way to recover? FATAL 2: open of /usr/local/pgsql/5432/pg_clog/06F6 failed: No such file or directory The RAID controller went on our server today ... is it safe to just 'touch' the files, or is this a 'restore from backup and deal with the losses' sort of thing? :(

Re: [HACKERS] Bad crash, pg_clog files missing ... ?

2003-03-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
-rw--- 1 pgsql pgsql 262144 Mar 5 20:06 0167 -rw--- 1 pgsql pgsql 262144 Mar 5 14:10 0166 -rw--- 1 pgsql pgsql 262144 Mar 5 09:03 0165 -rw--- 1 pgsql pgsql 262144 Mar 5 02:08 0164 On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FATAL

Re: [HACKERS] pgsql.com website store

2003-03-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Will get that fixed this aft (just spent the past 24hrs recovering from a RAID controller going south, need sleep *sigh*) ... I'm the one that put those great (and useless) descriptions in, sorry :) On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Hi, I tried to go buy a shirt off the

[HACKERS] test news gateway ...

2003-03-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
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Re: [HACKERS] [INTERFACES] Roadmap for FE/BE protocol redesign

2003-03-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Tom Lane wrote: One of the $64 questions that has to be answered is how much work we're willing to expend on backwards compatibility. The path of least resistance would be to handle it the same way we've done protocol revisions in the past: the backend will be able to

Re: [HACKERS] Roadmap for FE/BE protocol redesign

2003-03-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Tom Lane wrote: Justin Clift [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The scenario that's appealing to me the most is this for the next release: PostgreSQL 8.0 + Includes PITR and the Win32 port If the folks doing those things can get done in time, great. I'm even willing to push

Re: [HACKERS] [INTERFACES] Roadmap for FE/BE protocol redesign

2003-03-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Tom Lane wrote: One of the $64 questions that has to be answered is how much work we're willing to expend on backwards compatibility. The path of least resistance would be to handle it the same

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3 schedule

2002-04-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Is anyone feeling we have the 7.3 release nearing? I certainly am not. I can imagine us going for several more months like this, perhaps through August. seeing as how we just released v7.2, I don't see a v7.3 even going beta until end of Summer ...

[HACKERS] Testers needed ...

2002-04-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Could some ppl test out archives.postgresql.org and let me know if they notice any differences in speed? Thanks ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Testers needed ...

2002-04-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could some ppl test out archives.postgresql.org and let me know if they notice any differences in speed? Yup. It's usable again! What did you do? Got more RAM installed :) The archives have a buffer cache

Re: [HACKERS] Vote totals for SET in aborted transaction

2002-04-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Just curious here, but has anyone taken the time to see how others are doing this? For instance, if we go with 1, are going against how everyone else handles it? IMHO, its not a popularity contest ... Personally, I do agree with #1, but I'm curious as to how those coming from other DBMS are

Re: [HACKERS] Vote totals for SET in aborted transaction

2002-04-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Mike Mascari wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Just curious here, but has anyone taken the time to see how others are doing this? For instance, if we go with 1, are going against how everyone else handles it? IMHO, its not a popularity

Re: [HACKERS] Vote totals for SET in aborted transaction

2002-04-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Okay, based on this, I'm pseudo-against ... I think, for reasons of reducing headaches for ppl posting, there should be some sort of 'SET oracle_quirks' operation that would allow for those with largish legacy apps trying

Re: [HACKERS] Vote totals for SET in aborted transaction

2002-04-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
wrote: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: My guess is that we should implement #1 and see what feedback we get in 7.3. IMHO, it hasn't been thought out well enough to be implemented yet ... the options have been, but which to implement haven't

Re: [HACKERS] Vote totals for SET in aborted transaction

2002-04-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc is suggesting we may want to match Oracle somehow. I just want to have our SET work on a sane manner. Myself, I wonder why Oracle went the route they went

Re: [HACKERS] Vote totals for SET in aborted transaction

2002-04-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Jan Wieck wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc is suggesting we may want to match Oracle somehow. I just want to have our SET work on a sane manner. Myself, I wonder why Oracle went

Re: [HACKERS] Vote totals for SET in aborted transaction

2002-04-26 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Lincoln Yeoh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Coz some things should not be rolled back. So you guys might come up with a different keyword for it. CONFIG: for non transactional stuff that can appear as SQL statements. SET: for

Re: [HACKERS] Vote totals for SET in aborted transaction

2002-04-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Scott Marlowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been thinking this over and over, and it seems to me, that the way SETS in transactions SHOULD work is that they are all rolled back, period, whether the transaction successfully completes OR NOT. This

Re: [HACKERS] Vote totals for SET in aborted transaction

2002-04-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
What happens inside of a nested transaction, assuming we do have those evenually ... ? On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Hannu Krosing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps we could do SET SET TO LOCAL TO TRANSACTION; Which would affect itself and all subsequent SET commands up to SET

Re: [HACKERS] Vote totals for SET in aborted transaction

2002-04-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Hannu Krosing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we go with your syntax I would prefer SET LOCAL to LOCAL SET , so that LOCAL feels tied more to variable rather than to SET . I agree. I was originally thinking that that way might require LOCAL to become a

Re: [HACKERS] Vote totals for SET in aborted transaction

2002-04-29 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Jan Wieck wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: What happens inside of a nested transaction, assuming we do have those evenually ... ? Folks, I don't really get it. We had a voting and I think I saw a clear enough result with #1, transactional behaviour

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL mission statement?

2002-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Nigel J. Andrews wrote: Is this an indication of a need for [EMAIL PROTECTED]? :) already exists as pgsql-advocacy :) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL mission statement?

2002-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 2 May 2002, mlw wrote: Jim Mercer wrote: On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 08:15:15AM -0400, mlw wrote: Jean-Michel POURE wrote: Le Jeudi 2 Mai 2002 01:59, David Terrell a écrit : Provide a really good database and have fun doing it PostgreSQL Community is commited to

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL mission statement?

2002-05-02 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On 2 May 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 14:37, Jim Mercer wrote: On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 08:15:15AM -0400, mlw wrote: Who's that? Anyone disagree? why does it have to be THE BEST ? that is insulting to the other projects like MySQL which while competitors are also

[HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Morning all ... Just a heads up that over the next little while, I'm planning on making a bunch of commits in order to work on making the code able to work natively in the above environments ... my work will mostly focus on Win32 (since I have no OS2/BeOS installs), but alot of the

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL mission statement?

2002-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Scott Marlowe wrote: On 2 May 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: The Politically Correct mission statement follows: The PostgreSQL community is committed to creating and maintaining a good but not the best, mostly reliable, open-source multi-purpose standards based

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 3 May 2002, mlw wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Morning all ... Just a heads up that over the next little while, I'm planning on making a bunch of commits in order to work on making the code able to work natively in the above environments ... my work will mostly focus

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
of the core functionality that has held back native ports should work ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:48 AM To: mlw Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-05-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All I'm planning on doing is changing the appropriate shm_* functions iwth pg_shm_* functions ... if !(libapr), all those pg_shm_* functions will have in them is the original call we've always used

Re: [HACKERS] Native Windows, Apache Portable Runtime

2002-05-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 4 May 2002, mlw wrote: Upon doing some inspection of apache 2.x, it seems that me making a SysV Windows .DLL for PostgreSQL, while a cool project, would be unnecessary. The APR (Apache Portable Runtime) seems to have all the necessary support. The problem is that it has its own API.

Re: [HACKERS] Native Windows, Apache Portable Runtime

2002-05-05 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Well, I guess that just saved *me* alot of work ... thanks ... On Sat, 4 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote: mlw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We could provide a PGSemaphore based on an APR mutex and a counter, but I'm not sure of the performance impact. We may want to implement a generic semaphore

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Joel Burton wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Lane Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:07 PM To: mlw Cc: Marc G. Fournier; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 4 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Matthew Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 3 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote: The SysV API lets us detect that case, but I don't see any equally good way to do it if we are using anonymous shared memory. It's a hack (and has slight security

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Joel Burton wrote: Joel Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rather than propagating the SysV semaphore API still further, why don't we kill it now? (I'm willing to keep the shmem API, however.) Would this have the benefit of allow PostgreSQL to work properly in BSD

Re: [HACKERS] Native Windows, Apache Portable Runtime

2002-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I guess that just saved *me* alot of work ... thanks ... Uh, not yet. Don't you still need a semaphore implementation that works on Windows? Yup ... next steps, but I believe that is what Mark is working

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Or changing ISPs to a place more enlightened ... On Mon, 6 May 2002, Joel Burton wrote: -Original Message- From: Christopher Kings-Lynne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:36 AM To: Joel Burton; Tom Lane; mlw Cc: Marc G. Fournier; [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We could get around this, of course: record the port number in the data directory lockfile, and test for existence of the old socket independently of trying to create a new one. But it seems ugly. How about

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 6 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote: I said: But the backends would only have the socket open, they'd not be actively listening to it. So how could you tell whether anyone had the socket open or not? Oh, I take that back, I see how you could do it: the postmaster opens the socket *for

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Since our default behavior (at startup) is to have TCP sockets disabled, how many OSs are there that don't support UD sockets? Enough to really be worried about? On Mon, 6 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That would work ... but is it more portable

Re: [HACKERS] Native Windows, Apache Portable Runtime

2002-05-06 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 6 May 2002, mlw wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I guess that just saved *me* alot of work ... thanks ... Uh, not yet. Don't you still need a semaphore implementation that works on Windows? I have a LOT of experience with Windows

Re: [HACKERS] www.pgaccess.org - the official story (the way I saw

2002-05-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Iavor Raytchev wrote: Thanks Ross, This sounds like a resolution. I'd suggest keeping a copy of pgaccess in the main tree, as well, and pushing versions from the development CVS over on a regular basis. I am not a cvs expert. We will check this with Stanislav - our

Re: Discontent with development process (was:Re: [HACKERS] pgaccess

2002-05-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 13 May 2002, Lamar Owen wrote: But understand that those who don't need the functionality are likely not not be thrilled by changes to a currently stable codebase. Although this config file stuff is small potatoes compared to the Win32 stuff as recently discussed. And for that,

Global Variables (Was: Re: Discontent with development process(was:Re: [HACKERS] pgaccess - the discussion is over) )

2002-05-14 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Mark (mlw) ... could you generate a listing of those variables you feel would need to be moved to a 'global structure' and post that to the list? That would at least give us a starting point, instead of both sides guessing at what is/would be involved ... On Tue, 14 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote:

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.2 ?

2002-05-14 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 14 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Oleg Bartunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have one patch for contrib/rtree_gist ( thanks Chris Hodgson for spotting bug and test suite ). Should we submit patch for 7.2.2 and 7.3 ? I don't know whether we will bother with a 7.2.2 release --- but if

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.2 ?

2002-05-14 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 14 May 2002, Tom Lane wrote: I don't know whether we will bother with a 7.2.2 release --- We could do up a 7.2.2 ... If ya wanna do one, no objection here. But let's see if we can't get some

Re: [HACKERS] WIN32 native ... lets start?!?

2002-05-16 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Actually, take a look at the thread starting at: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2002-05/msg00665.php Right now, IMHO, the big show stopper is passing global variables to the child processes in Windows ... the above thread talks about a method of pulling together the

Re: [HACKERS] WIN32 native ... lets start?!?

2002-05-17 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Maybe Vince could set up a Win32 porting project page, and since we now seem to have a few interested parties willing to code on a native Win32 version, they should have their own project page. This could make communication easier for them

Re: [HACKERS] Poster(s) needed

2002-05-17 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Not that I'm aware of anyone making ... On Fri, 17 May 2002, Michael Meskes wrote: Hi, since we will show PostgreSQL related stuff on Linuxtag in Germany next month, I'd like to get some PostgreSQL posters for the booth. But I have no idea where to find some. Do we have that kind of

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On 22 May 2002, Ulrich Drepper wrote: On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 10:51, Lamar Owen wrote: What isn't funny is Oliver Elphick's results on Debian, running glibc 2.2.5 (same as Red Hat 7.3's version). This is a completely different version. Once Debian updates (in a few years) they'll get the

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On 22 May 2002, Ulrich Drepper wrote: On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 11:23, Tom Lane wrote: Unix systems have *always* interpreted time_t as a signed offset from the epoch. No. This always was an accident if it happens. Do you really think that when Unixen were first built in the early 70s,

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-23 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 23 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22 May 2002, Ulrich Drepper wrote: On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 11:23, Tom Lane wrote: Unix systems have *always* interpreted time_t as a signed offset from the epoch. No. This always was an accident if it happens. Do you

Re: [HACKERS] Redhat 7.3 time manipulation bug

2002-05-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Michael Meskes wrote: No, this is simply not true. The version number is what the upstream gives its release. No more no less. What RH does is becoming as subtly incompatible a possible. If that's the goal, it doesn't look like free software for me. Sure all changes are

Re: [HACKERS] HEADS UP: Win32/OS2/BeOS native ports

2002-06-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
You might want to go to the archives and catch up on the whole thread and its digressions :) On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: mlw wrote: Like I told Marc, I don't care. You spec out what you want and I'll write it for Windows. That being said, a SysV IPC interface for native

Re: [HACKERS] Use of /etc/services?

2002-06-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
FreeBSD On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Peter Eisentraut wrote: Since we now have an official entry in /etc/services, shouldn't we be able to make use of it, by using getservbyname() if a nonnumeric port number is specified? Is any OS actually shipping us in /etc/services?

Re: [HACKERS] Per tuple overhead, cmin, cmax, OID

2002-06-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Manfred Koizar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No comment on a planned 7.3 timeframe? :-( I think we are planning to go beta in late summer (end of August, say). Probably in July we'll start pressing people to finish up any major

Re: [HACKERS] Per tuple overhead, cmin, cmax, OID

2002-06-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Manfred Koizar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No comment on a planned 7.3 timeframe? :-( I think we are planning to go beta in late summer (end of August

Re: [HACKERS] Per tuple overhead, cmin, cmax, OID

2002-06-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: I will say that I was disapointed by previous release delays and will be more vocal about moving things forward than I have in the past. I don't know ... I kinda like being able to confidently say to clients that the latest release is always the most

Re: [HACKERS] Per tuple overhead, cmin, cmax, OID

2002-06-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Yes, but there is a downside to this. We have trouble enough figuring out if a patch is a feature or bug fix during beta. How are people going to decide if a feature is big or not to work on during August? It has a paralyzing effect on our

Re: [HACKERS] Per tuple overhead, cmin, cmax, OID

2002-06-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: It is the idea were are supposed to go into beta with a bug-free release that bother me. But its you that's always tried to advocate that ... no? If not, then I am confused, cause I know *I've* never ... to me, switching to beta mode has always been

Re: [HACKERS] Project scheduling issues (was Re: Per tuple overhead,

2002-06-08 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, I don't want to apply a partially-implemented feature in the last week of August, but I don't want to slow things down during August, because the last time we did this we were all

Re: [HACKERS] Project scheduling issues (was Re: Per tuple overhead,

2002-06-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I *really* wish ppl would stop harping on the length of the last beta cycle ... I will always rather delay a release due to an *known* outstanding bug, especially one that just needs a little bit more time

Re: [HACKERS] Project scheduling issues (was Re: Per tuple overhead,

2002-06-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed on all accounts ... which is why this time, I want to do a proper branch when beta starts ... hell, from what I've seen suggested here so far, we have no choice ... At least

Re: [HACKERS] Project scheduling issues (was Re: Per tuple overhead,

2002-06-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote: There is a downside to changing away from that approach. Bruce mentioned it but didn't really give it the prominence I think it deserves: beta mode encourages developers to work on testing, debugging, and oh yes documenting. Without that forced non

Re: [HACKERS] Project scheduling issues (was Re: Per tuple overhead,

2002-06-11 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: 2. Once Branch created, any *partially implemented* features will get rip'd out of the -STABLE branch and only fixes to the existing, fully implement features will go in Now, that is an interesting idea. Ya, I thought it was when you -and-

Re: [HACKERS] Integrating libpqxx

2002-06-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Jeroen T. Vermeulen wrote: On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 10:41:32PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: I'm thinking we should just import the current state of the files and not worry about preserving their change history. Fine with me, if that's easier. I just thought it might be

Re: [HACKERS] Integrating libpqxx

2002-06-13 Thread Marc G. Fournier
got it ... will try and incorporate it and see what I can come up with ... thanks :) On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Jeroen T. Vermeulen wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 09:15:05AM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Jeroen ... can you send me a copy of the CVSROOT

First Win32 Contribution (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Democracy and organisation: let's make a revolution in)

2002-06-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Jan Wieck wrote: Jean-Michel POURE wrote: [...] As for current PostgreSQL organization, can someone explain me which W32 port will make its way to PostgreSQL main source code? Can someone publish a schedule for replication availability?

Re: [HACKERS] Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution

2002-06-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On 20 Jun 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: Nobody is in charge, but everybody is welcome to do it, even without being elected or nominated ;) Still, having a success stories or advocacy section on www.postgresq.org seems like a good idea. Being worked on ... we are actually working on totally

Re: First Win32 Contribution (Was: Re: [HACKERS] Democracy and

2002-06-20 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: Jon Franz wrote: It could be helpful to create a mailing list just for this project, since not all members of pg-hackers will/shall participate, and we would probably flood this list quite a bit trying to figure out what is the best way to

Re: [HACKERS] Our archive searching stinks

2002-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: OK, I have finally decided that our archive searching stinks. I have emails in my mailbox that don't appear in the archives. Our main site, http://archives.postgresql.org/ doesn't archive the 'patches' list. (It isn't listed on the main site, and

Re: [HACKERS] Our archive searching stinks

2002-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
damn, I wish ppl would bring stuff like this up earlier :( I've just gone through the configs, and think the problem(s) are fixed with this ... :( On 21 Jun 2002, Alessio Bragadini wrote: On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 17:07, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Can we find out why the email/news gateway

[HACKERS] one more ...

2002-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
to ignore ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org

Re: [HACKERS] test 2, first failed ...

2002-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Okay, just did a series of upgrades to the server to hopefully speed up delivery a bit ... 6minutes more reasonable? let's see if it keeps up, mind you ... On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: ignore this one ... ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] test 2, first failed ...

2002-06-21 Thread Marc G. Fournier
yup, as well as Francisco's ... On 21 Jun 2002, Larry Rosenman wrote: On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 22:06, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Okay, just did a series of upgrades to the server to hopefully speed up delivery a bit ... 6minutes more reasonable? let's see if it keeps up, mind you

[HACKERS] Sporatic Server Downtime ...

2002-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Just a quick heads up ... I've asked Rackspace to investigate *why* the server crashes every 24-48hrs, and given them carte-blanche to get it fixed ... they are planning on swapping out/in hardware, as right now that appears to be where the error messages are indicating ...

Re: [HACKERS] pgadmin.postgresql.org displaying errors

2002-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
should already be fixed ... On 23 Jun 2002, Dave Cramer wrote: I am getting lots of errors on pgadmin.postgresql.org Dave ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] Our archive searching stinks

2002-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote: Can we link to the fts site? The only thing I can help with is the fts link, but I'm hesitant to link to something that disappears. If it's going to be here and not go away again I'll be happy to add it. The only reason it disappeared was

Re: [HACKERS] Democracy and organisation : let's make a revolution

2002-06-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Tom Lane wrote: Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frankly, my feeling is, as a geek-to-geek product, PostgreSQL is already adequately marketed through our huge network of DBA users and code contributors. Well, mumble ... it seems to me that we are definitely

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