Re: [Pharo-dev] [help] someone with account on http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com needed

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 22 Jan 2014, at 08:54, Max Leske wrote: > Done. Issue closed. > Thanks a lot! That was a hard one to fix, it was open since last April... > > On 22.01.2014, at 08:45, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On 22 Jan 2014, at 08:41, Max Leske wrote: >> >>> I do have a login. What do you need me

Re: [Pharo-dev] [help] someone with account on http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com needed

2014-01-21 Thread Max Leske
Done. Issue closed. On 22.01.2014, at 08:45, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 22 Jan 2014, at 08:41, Max Leske wrote: > >> I do have a login. What do you need me to delete? >> > > There is a case open since last April that can be fixed by removing the > section below " > Other Pharo Non Core P

Re: [Pharo-dev] [help] someone with account on http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com needed

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 22 Jan 2014, at 08:41, Max Leske wrote: > I do have a login. What do you need me to delete? > There is a case open since last April that can be fixed by removing the section below " Other Pharo Non Core Packages and put a note in http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com/book/PharoTools/Pharo-Non

Re: [Pharo-dev] [help] someone with account on http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com needed

2014-01-21 Thread Max Leske
I do have a login. What do you need me to delete? On 22.01.2014, at 08:26, Marcus Denker wrote: > So seemingly nobody has an account there. > > Now what is the action to take: > A) do we find out who to ask how to get an account? > B) do we retire the site? > > On 21 Jan 2014, at

Re: [Pharo-dev] [help] someone with account on http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com needed

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
So seemingly nobody has an account there. Now what is the action to take: A) do we find out who to ask how to get an account? B) do we retire the site? On 21 Jan 2014, at 09:50, Marcus Denker wrote: > … to delete 5 lines on a page. > > Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jan 2014, at 23:56, Camille Teruel wrote: > > > On 21 janv. 2014, at 19:07, Sebastian Sastre > wrote: > >> We have to be careful about this. >> >> I’m not saying traits doesn’t have its place but they are a solution to >> millions of non-problems > > Note that this issue does not

Re: [Pharo-dev] DeepIntoPharo Book website

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jan 2014, at 21:00, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > http://www.deepintopharo.com does not return anything. > Is it only me? > No, seems to be down somehow.

Re: [Pharo-dev] World vs. ActiveWorld

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jan 2014, at 20:51, Sean DeNigris wrote: > What is the difference? There are many hardcoded references to each. I wonder > if they are all using the correct one... I think there is no difference… the ActiveWorld might come back from times when there where multiple worlds active in one w

[Pharo-dev] 36 issues for Pharo3....

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, There are 36 issues tagged for Pharo3: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/64/3-0-TODO Please, everyone (and even please those people who always assume that these emails “everyone” means “everyone but me”): -> Have a look at the list of issues -> Is there any bug missing you need to

[Pharo-dev] Fwd: Talk on Pharo In Enterprise Context

2014-01-21 Thread S Krish
Bounced from the Users List.. so posting to this forum for now.. I am planning on delivering a lecture-demonstration on Pharo Smalltalk in specific and Smalltalk historically in our product Through last 20 yrs the one premier product in the company has had Smalltalk lineage from early Enfin days

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

2014-01-21 Thread Camille Teruel
On 21 janv. 2014, at 20:08, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Magritte description comes to mind... Why? > > --- > Philippe Back > Dramatic Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 > Mail:p...@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu > Blog: http://philippeback

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

2014-01-21 Thread Camille Teruel
On 21 janv. 2014, at 19:07, Sebastian Sastre wrote: > We have to be careful about this. > > I’m not saying traits doesn’t have its place but they are a solution to > millions of non-problems Note that this issue does not come from presence of traits but from the combinaison of two things:

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz (Case [Issue]12566) Kernel - Added Behavior>>#dependentClasses

2014-01-21 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014/1/21 Alexandre Bergel > No idea which status I have to set > > Alexandre > > On Jan 21, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > 2014/1/21 Alexandre Bergel > I have fixed this. I think the fix is ready to be included. > SLICE-Issue-12566-Added-BehaviordependentClasses-AlexandreBergel.2 >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

2014-01-21 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I know, just another case --- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:p...@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High

Re: [Pharo-dev] IDE reloading based on configuration

2014-01-21 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Pavel, Wow! About too many literals in a configuration: with Snapshotcello we encountered the same problem. Our solution was to create a utility method: populateSpec: aSpec with: list "generated by Snapshotcello creates a spec object for the package and the version stored in the list" list d

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz (Case [Issue]12566) Kernel - Added Behavior>>#dependentClasses

2014-01-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
No idea which status I have to setAlexandreOn Jan 21, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote:2014/1/21 Alexandre Bergel I have fixed this. I think the fix is ready to be included.SLICE-Issue-12566-Added-BehaviordependentClasses-AlexandreBergel.2This is an

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz (Case [Issue]12566) Kernel - Added Behavior>>#dependentClasses

2014-01-21 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014/1/21 Alexandre Bergel > I have fixed this. I think the fix is ready to be included. > SLICE-Issue-12566-Added-BehaviordependentClasses-AlexandreBergel.2 > > This is an important fix > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On Jan 5, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Alexandre Bergel > wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I have

Re: [Pharo-dev] DeepIntoPharo Book website

2014-01-21 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014/1/21 Torsten Bergmann > http://www.deepintopharo.com does not return anything. > Is it only me? > > no, happens for me too.

Re: [Pharo-dev] DeepIntoPharo Book website

2014-01-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Same thing for me… Damien, any idea what’s going on? Alexandre On Jan 21, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > http://www.deepintopharo.com does not return anything. > Is it only me? > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

2014-01-21 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 21.01.2014 um 20:08 schrieb p...@highoctane.be: > Magritte description comes to mind... > It’s called magritteDescription since magritte 3. Norbert > --- > Philippe Back > Dramatic Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 > Mail:p...@highoctane.be | Web:

[Pharo-dev] DeepIntoPharo Book website

2014-01-21 Thread Torsten Bergmann
http://www.deepintopharo.com does not return anything. Is it only me?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Unable to resolve Metacello-Platform.pharo30

2014-01-21 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote > package: 'Metacello-Platform.pharo30'; Ha ha, yes I've fallen for that one before too… Send package:constraint:. See the nice method comment. - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Unable-to-resolve-Metacello-Platform-pharo30-tp47

[Pharo-dev] IDE reloading based on configuration

2014-01-21 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi, I transformed the Morphic reloading script into a configuration and it works :-) Jenkins job: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Pharo-Kernel-3.0/job/PharoKernel3.0-FromTopShrink-Reload/ Configuration repository: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/SystemConfigurations/ it's named Co

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

2014-01-21 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Magritte description comes to mind... --- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:p...@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz (Case [Issue]12566) Kernel - Added Behavior>>#dependentClasses

2014-01-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
I have fixed this. I think the fix is ready to be included. SLICE-Issue-12566-Added-BehaviordependentClasses-AlexandreBergel.2 This is an important fix Cheers, Alexandre On Jan 5, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > I have proposed a method Behavior>>dependentClasses, but ap

Re: [Pharo-dev] What happened to the Slice maker?

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jan 2014, at 18:32, Benjamin wrote: > 21 Jan 2014, at 12:03, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> This will simplify *a lot* to make a Slice fro syncing with Spec, too. > > Can you expand please? > Because I have only seen the UI change, but I do not see where it can help :) > So for Opal, we co

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

2014-01-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
We have to be careful about this. I’m not saying traits doesn’t have its place but they are a solution to millions of non-problems Here is a post to reflect and learn from the problems of our neighbours, the lispers guys: Lisp: more is less http://jameso.be/2014/01/19/lisp.html It would be su

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf dev/prod

2014-01-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > I use zeroconf scripts (and my own modified scripts) for working on mac, and > I’m a lot happier with them than with the launcher, which does not fit my > workflow. okay, how do you handle the difference? I mean in your repo you have

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

2014-01-21 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
This is where the "only 5 reserved keywords" stop being true :) I've been bitten by similar things and ended up using my own selectors, sometimes with a prefix. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2014/1/21 Camille Teruel > > On 21 janv. 2014, at 17:53, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > I tried loadin

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

2014-01-21 Thread Camille Teruel
On 21 janv. 2014, at 17:53, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > I tried loading Deltawerken in Pharo 3.0 and noticed > it is now impossible to load code where a class side method is defined named > users. > > DEUser class>>users > ^self subclassResponsibility > > Stephan I guess it's a consequence

Re: [Pharo-dev] TraitComposition equality

2014-01-21 Thread Martin Dias
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Martin Dias wrote: > > Do experts on traits agree? I can open an issue and propose a slice. > > > you have to pay attention that A + B + C = B + A + C = C + A + B. > ok, I will propose a slice

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf dev/prod

2014-01-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
no, you also have a pharo launcher for pharo. I use zeroconf scripts (and my own modified scripts) for working on mac, and I’m a lot happier with them than with the launcher, which does not fit my workflow. Pharo launcher is cool, but not for me :) So, as an answer: you have both solutions in

Re: [Pharo-dev] What happened to the Slice maker?

2014-01-21 Thread Benjamin
21 Jan 2014, at 12:03, Marcus Denker wrote: > This will simplify *a lot* to make a Slice fro syncing with Spec, too. Can you expand please? Because I have only seen the UI change, but I do not see where it can help :) Thanks, Ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf dev/prod

2014-01-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
So the idea is to start the image with the launcher in mac (and not using scripts) and in linux use the scrips? On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > for deployment on ubuntu-based systems there is a PPA: > http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/ubuntu > > for developmen

Re: [Pharo-dev] TraitComposition equality

2014-01-21 Thread Damien Cassou
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Martin Dias wrote: > Do experts on traits agree? I can open an issue and propose a slice. you have to pay attention that A + B + C = B + A + C = C + A + B. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf dev/prod

2014-01-21 Thread Damien Cassou
for deployment on ubuntu-based systems there is a PPA: http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/ubuntu for development on MacOSX there is a launcher with installer: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/ On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Max Leske wrote: > No pro

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf dev/prod

2014-01-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
On Jan 21, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Max Leske wrote: > No problems whatsoever :) Do you version VM and scripts in your git repo? If yes how do you handle the difference? sebastian o/

[Pharo-dev] Bad naming: users

2014-01-21 Thread Stephan Eggermont
I tried loading Deltawerken in Pharo 3.0 and noticed it is now impossible to load code where a class side method is defined named users. DEUser class>>users ^self subclassResponsibility Stephan

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 4912cb: 30713

2014-01-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 4912cb7199608a6b674891915462775495c81831 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/4912cb7199608a6b674891915462775495c81831 Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-01-21 (Tue, 21 Jan 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30713 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf dev/prod

2014-01-21 Thread Max Leske
No problems whatsoever :) On 21.01.2014, at 17:30, Sebastian Sastre wrote: > Hi guys, > > The script for OS X is different from linux right? > > I ask because.. > > If you use linux for servers and development, using ZeroConf is a breeze > > In the other hand, if you use mac on development

[Pharo-dev] TraitComposition equality

2014-01-21 Thread Martin Dias
Hi, I want to determine if a trait composition is different than other, for example: newClass traitComposition = oldClass traitComposition But I didn't find an implementation. I imagine the simple implementation that checks that all of its components are equal recursively. The components are ins

[Pharo-dev] ZeroConf dev/prod

2014-01-21 Thread Sebastian Sastre
Hi guys, The script for OS X is different from linux right? I ask because.. If you use linux for servers and development, using ZeroConf is a breeze In the other hand, if you use mac on development it introduces a bit of friction because you need a different set of start scripts Am I right?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] a3bb37: 30712

2014-01-21 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Great, all tests are green again ! On 21 Jan 2014, at 16:39, GitHub wrote: > Branch: refs/heads/3.0 > Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core > Commit: a3bb375d89a63e7e5a98234bf26d71110bac4f9b > > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/a3bb375d89a63e7e5a98234bf26

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] a3bb37: 30712

2014-01-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: a3bb375d89a63e7e5a98234bf26d71110bac4f9b https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/a3bb375d89a63e7e5a98234bf26d71110bac4f9b Author: Jenkins Build Server Date: 2014-01-21 (Tue, 21 Jan 2014

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-01-21 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30712 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] What happened to the Slice maker?

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jan 2014, at 16:02, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On 21 Jan 2014, at 15:26, Benjamin > wrote: > >> It is now showing all the packages. >> It is cool for when you want to make slices in expert mode (aka with no >> dirty packages) >> But is it the default use case? >> > > It is very import

Re: [Pharo-dev] What happened to the Slice maker?

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
On 21 Jan 2014, at 15:26, Benjamin wrote: > It is now showing all the packages. > It is cool for when you want to make slices in expert mode (aka with no dirty > packages) > But is it the default use case? > It is very important: both Sven and Igor deem it as *very very* important that there

[Pharo-dev] What happened to the Slice maker?

2014-01-21 Thread Benjamin
It is now showing all the packages. It is cool for when you want to make slices in expert mode (aka with no dirty packages) But is it the default use case? Ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 3.0 on Raspberry Pi - Yes/No

2014-01-21 Thread Jean Baptiste Arnaud
On 20 Jan 2014, at 23:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi Jean Baptiste, > > On 20 Jan 2014, at 21:51, Jean Baptiste Arnaud > wrote: > >> >> On 20 Jan 2014, at 19:32, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Here is another step forward in getting Pharo 3.0 to run on a Raspberry

[Pharo-dev] Unable to resolve Metacello-Platform.pharo30

2014-01-21 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Hi, when I try this code: Gofer it url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/Pharo30/main'; package: 'Metacello-Platform.pharo30'; load. an error 'Unable to resolve Metacello-Platform.pharo30' raises. The package is in the repository. Maybe some problem with the dot in the package name. --

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] you spin me around...

2014-01-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
>> .. as well as other (infinite) number of permutations with 'something-ed' >> and 'Label'. >> >> or its just a prototype? > > I asked myself the same. > Why Label can not do everything? Because this is a lot already. The class TRRotatedLabelShape is complex. It is not _just_ applying a rotat

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: you spin me around...

2014-01-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
> why you need separate class for 'rotated' label? to have rotated labels :-) > i suppose you also need RTRotatedAndScaledLabel, > RTRotatedAndScewedLabel > .. as well as other (infinite) number of permutations with 'something-ed' and > 'Label’. Actually no. Having rotated labels can be consid

Re: [Pharo-dev] [COTDC] 108 - NewValueHolder

2014-01-21 Thread Benjamin
On 21 Jan 2014, at 04:53, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Since nobody looks at it: here are the issue (they contain class comments). > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12572 is a print case of the following, so will not be checked until the child case is integrated. > > https:/

[Pharo-dev] ...and load back

2014-01-21 Thread Pavel Krivanek
We can now (again) load and initialize Morphic and tools after unloading it. Main problems to solve: - Multilingual packages are problematic to load - ThemeIcons>>#iconSelectors message finds Object>>#systemIcon too for simplicity we do not load most of the tests and NativeBoost. https://ci.inri

[Pharo-dev] [help] someone with account on http://pharo.gemtalksystems.com needed

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus Denker
… to delete 5 lines on a page. Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] NewVersionBrowser

2014-01-21 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014/1/21 Marcus Denker > > On 21 Jan 2014, at 00:19, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > Hi, > > I finished case "11714 > NewVersionBrowser needs to be > finished". > The changes are integrated and the case is closed. > > Very nice! > > > I omit the Tools re