Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

2016-08-26 Thread Hernán Morales Durand
2016-08-26 6:19 GMT-03:00 stepharo : > > About GT I have some concerns too now I see also a lot of improvements. I >> love GTInspector and we should remove EyeInspector. >> >> I want to have once brick is out another minimal environment not based on >> anything so that we can

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

2016-08-26 Thread Ben Coman
Here is an example where asClass is useful. Someone posts something in the mail list like this... Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'hernan' project: 'CodeGenerator'; configuration; loadDevelopment. CGSmalltalkExamples exampleNSISPharo4. and pure laziness (apparently a sign of a good

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fraction and isPowerOfTwo

2016-08-26 Thread Nicolai Hess
2016-08-27 2:21 GMT+02:00 monty : > 2^-5 = (1/32) > > Ah, ok.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fraction and isPowerOfTwo

2016-08-26 Thread monty
2^-5 = (1/32)

[Pharo-dev] Fraction and isPowerOfTwo

2016-08-26 Thread Nicolai Hess
18033 Fraction isPowerOfTwo does too much work why exactly does this method exists (on Fraction)? What is the rational behind (1/32) isPowerOfTwo -> true

Re: [Pharo-dev] Iceberg: success and fail

2016-08-26 Thread Nicolas Passerini
Thank you Serge, I will pay a look at it. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 11:43 PM, wrote: > > > Envoyé de mon iPhone > > Le 26 août 2016 à 23:34, Nicolas Passerini a > écrit : > > Sorry, I didn't understand how to reproduce the problem. I understand

Re: [Pharo-dev] Iceberg: success and fail

2016-08-26 Thread serge . stinckwich
Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 26 août 2016 à 23:34, Nicolas Passerini a écrit : > > Sorry, I didn't understand how to reproduce the problem. I understand you > tried to save a package to the Iceberg repository, is that right? > How did you create your local repository? Did

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to load with Iceberg?

2016-08-26 Thread Nicolas Passerini
Hi Alex, the history is just work in progress, you should be able to load any version from there, yes. Yet I consider that a somehow advanced function, it will allow to load any commit into your image. So, wouldn't you prefer to load a branch or tag? (For branches it is already supported, for

Re: [Pharo-dev] iceberg: create repository?

2016-08-26 Thread Nicolas Passerini
Right, the names are inconsistent. Thank you for noticing it. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > I think the following window can be improved: > > > > Do I want to import or create a repository? I think the button title has > to be

Re: [Pharo-dev] Iceberg: success and fail

2016-08-26 Thread Nicolas Passerini
Sorry, I didn't understand how to reproduce the problem. I understand you tried to save a package to the Iceberg repository, is that right? How did you create your local repository? Did you already have a git repository in the same directory? (Yes, an error in the issue tracker will be

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to load with Iceberg?

2016-08-26 Thread Thierry Goubier
Le 26/08/2016 à 22:23, serge.stinckw...@gmail.com a écrit : I got the same commit when I use Iceberg. It's part of the gitfiletree setup (shared with filetree, and probably libgit as well). We need to set a few properties inside the git repo, and it has to be done as a commit to be recorded

Re: [Pharo-dev] WideString and commits

2016-08-26 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 25/08/2016 à 22:02, stepharo a écrit : > > > Le 25/8/16 à 16:55, Nicolas Cellier a écrit : >> Do we now since when? > > unfortunately not. > @Cyril this is in Pharo50? > This is at least in Pharo 6. I tested it on Windows and Mac. When I will get some free time I will try in Pharo 5. It

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to load with Iceberg?

2016-08-26 Thread serge . stinckwich
I got the same commit when I use Iceberg. Envoyé de mon iPhone > Le 26 août 2016 à 21:39, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : > > Hi! > > How can I load a version using Iceberg? > > I managed to open the history of a repo, but I cannot load a version. > By the way, I see a

[Pharo-dev] Nautilus support for class method tests, and a bugfix for test result icons not resetting when a method is modified

2016-08-26 Thread monty
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18974/

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to load with Iceberg?

2016-08-26 Thread Damien Pollet
Le vendredi 26 août 2016, Alexandre Bergel a écrit : > > By the way, I see a commit with the comment ‘gitfiletree repository > properties’. What is that? I have never made this commit. > it's made automatically when you first use the repo. Have a look at the diff, there

[Pharo-dev] Layouts in bloc

2016-08-26 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! Consider this piece of code: -=-=-=-=-=-= space := BlSpace new. space root layout: BlLinearLayout horizontal. 10 timesRepeat: [ | e | e := (BlRectangle new extent: 20 @ 20) asElement. e background: Color random. space root addChild: e. ]. space root children

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] GTExamples alpha

2016-08-26 Thread Nicolai Hess
2016-08-25 23:40 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi Nicolai, > > Thanks a lot for the feedback. Please let’s continue. See more inline. > > > On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:34 PM, Nicolai Hess wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-08-25 8:47 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ann] GTExamples alpha

2016-08-26 Thread Nicolai Hess
2016-08-26 0:51 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba : > Hi, > > I just tried again, and the latest GToolkit image does contain FileSystem > class >> gtExampleZip: > Yes, it is there, but not listed under the FileSystem class package. If you open Nautilus for all gt examples (world menu

[Pharo-dev] iceberg: create repository?

2016-08-26 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! I think the following window can be improved: Do I want to import or create a repository? I think the button title has to be changed… Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

[Pharo-dev] How to load with Iceberg?

2016-08-26 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! How can I load a version using Iceberg? I managed to open the history of a repo, but I cannot load a version. By the way, I see a commit with the comment ‘gitfiletree repository properties’. What is that? I have never made this commit. Alexandre --

Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

2016-08-26 Thread Pavel Krivanek
Dne pátek 26. srpna 2016 Hernán Morales Durand napsal(a): > Hi Stef, > > 2016-08-25 3:48 GMT-03:00 stepharo >: > >> Hi hernan >> >> Could you reply to my mail? Because what is important is how we can

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to know the uncommitted changes?

2016-08-26 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Double clicking also work. Cool! Alexandre > On Aug 26, 2016, at 12:26 PM, Guillermo Polito > wrote: > > Yes, do a synchronize on the repository. > > > Le 26 août 2016 12:24, "Alexandre Bergel" a écrit : > Hi! > > It would be great that

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo 60

2016-08-26 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
My Christmas list is divided to 2 sections a) What I want from you b) What I am going to deliver *What I want from you* The things I want from Pharo are centered on the high priorities a) 64 bit version b) Bloc /SDL c) FFI documentation / stabilization Its

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo 60

2016-08-26 Thread stepharo
Le 26/8/16 à 14:40, Norbert Hartl a écrit : Hi, the things I want to have are 64bit, bootstrap and vector graphic backend because these are so disruptive that it takes some time to stabilize the whole system. But there is a roadmap for this which is ok for me. For me we really need to

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo 60

2016-08-26 Thread stepharo
List: * image size management under control Yes it requires to write a new GC so I hope that the VM team with get the ressources. * no more gradients in that UI (even in the light theme) * modern "Material style" UI * FASTER Nautilus what is the problem? * better console support (in/out)

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo 60

2016-08-26 Thread Norbert Hartl
Hi, the things I want to have are 64bit, bootstrap and vector graphic backend because these are so disruptive that it takes some time to stabilize the whole system. But there is a roadmap for this which is ok for me. For me we really need to focus on stabilizing a few things which are (to me)

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to know the uncommitted changes?

2016-08-26 Thread Guillermo Polito
Yes, do a synchronize on the repository. Le 26 août 2016 12:24, "Alexandre Bergel" a écrit : > Hi! > > It would be great that right-clicking on an uncommitted change that I have > an option to see the differences with the local repository. > > Is there a way to know

[Pharo-dev] How to know the uncommitted changes?

2016-08-26 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! It would be great that right-clicking on an uncommitted change that I have an option to see the differences with the local repository. Is there a way to know this? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] TaskIt v0.2

2016-08-26 Thread Tudor Girba
Great news & great work! Doru > On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Guille Polito wrote: > > Hi all, > > With Santi we wanted to share a new release of TaskIt, a concurrency > management library for Pharo. TaskIt development is done entirely in github, > using iceberg.

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to install Iceberg?

2016-08-26 Thread Tudor Girba
Yes, but it is still under development :) Doru > On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Alexandre Bergel > wrote: > > But it could be on the catalog right? > :-) > > Alexandre > > >> On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> You should

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to install Iceberg?

2016-08-26 Thread Alexandre Bergel
But it could be on the catalog right? :-) Alexandre > On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > > You should search for it on GitHub :) > > Metacello new > baseline: 'Iceberg'; > repository: 'github://npasserini/iceberg'; > load > > Cheers, >

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to install Iceberg?

2016-08-26 Thread Guillermo Polito
Yes! And check the readme for documentation! https://github.com/npasserini/iceberg Le 26 août 2016 11:47, "Tudor Girba" a écrit : > You should search for it on GitHub :) > > Metacello new > baseline: 'Iceberg'; > repository: 'github://npasserini/iceberg';

Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

2016-08-26 Thread stepharo
So true. :) On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:05:45 +0200 stepharo wrote: Yes but we cannot do much OK. I got it...do you believe it makes sense for a noob to create account in case there are some low-hanging fruits to pick? Definitely. And not necessarily that you *solve* an

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to install Iceberg?

2016-08-26 Thread Tudor Girba
You should search for it on GitHub :) Metacello new baseline: 'Iceberg'; repository: 'github://npasserini/iceberg'; load Cheers, Doru > On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Alexandre Bergel > wrote: > > Hi all! > > I would like to give a try to

[Pharo-dev] How to install Iceberg?

2016-08-26 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi all! I would like to give a try to Iceberg. I have no idea where to find it however. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

2016-08-26 Thread stepharo
Definitively :) I started to do that when I discovered Smalltalk. I wanted to learn and I read the submissions of people and try to understand and comment. And I learned a lot about the system, about myself, about quality. Stef Le 25/8/16 à 17:31, Gour a écrit : On Thu, 25 Aug 2016

[Pharo-dev] help needed to avoid komitter to crash

2016-08-26 Thread stepharo
Hi guys I need your wise point of view on my fix https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18983/Kommitter-is-not-working-when-invoked-from-Versionner Stef (dead after intense ESUG)

Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

2016-08-26 Thread stepharo
About GT I have some concerns too now I see also a lot of improvements. I love GTInspector and we should remove EyeInspector. I want to have once brick is out another minimal environment not based on anything so that we can have a back-door to debug when the other tools have

[Pharo-dev] Bloc question

2016-08-26 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi! In the class BlElement, what are the meaning of the variables: misc cursor ? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] TaskIt v0.2

2016-08-26 Thread Guille Polito
Hi all, With Santi we wanted to share a new release of TaskIt, a concurrency management library for Pharo. TaskIt development is done entirely in github, using iceberg. Works like a charm. Please find below attached the changes log with more information. Cheers, Guille & Santi TaskIt

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo 60

2016-08-26 Thread p...@highoctane.be
List: * image size management under control * no more gradients in that UI (even in the light theme) * modern "Material style" UI * FASTER Nautilus * better console support (in/out) * Pharo VM as something I can embed in other programs * something like npm.js for the packages list along with

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

2016-08-26 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Guille Polito wrote: > Hi! > > 1) I think we are failing also at communicating one point better. It is > not that people is arguing against #asClass because it's ugly and bad and a > terrible villain. Ok, maybe a bit, but also: > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

2016-08-26 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > On 26 Aug 2016, at 08:49, Luc Fabresse wrote: > > Hi, > > My point of view is: > > 1) in code/core, we should use (we already said that with Camille in the > past ;-)): > > self

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

2016-08-26 Thread p...@highoctane.be
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Luc Fabresse wrote: > Hi, > > My point of view is: > > 1) in code/core, we should use (we already said that with Camille in the > past ;-)): > > self environmentAt: #Blah > Makes sense, looks nice. > > Object>>environmentAt: aSymbol >

Re: [Pharo-dev] About Pharo 60

2016-08-26 Thread stepharo
Thanks Peter I cannot find the list, but there were some things we discussed during consortium call a month or so ago. Maybe Esteban can find it? I want for Christmas * Better Spec * Roadmap so we know where we are going, * with clean API, * so we can build really live UIs (where you

Re: [Pharo-dev] UIprocess around when loading broken code

2016-08-26 Thread Guille Polito
- I evaluated this SyntaxErrorNotification inClass: Object category: 'test' withCode: 'incorrect' doitFlag: false errorMessage: 'error' location: 1. - fixed the code in the opening window, - did ctrl+s and voilà, I had two UI processes. Looks like it but I'm getting out of battery right now

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

2016-08-26 Thread Guille Polito
Hi! 1) I think we are failing also at communicating one point better. It is not that people is arguing against #asClass because it's ugly and bad and a terrible villain. Ok, maybe a bit, but also: The point is that #asClass, as it looks handy and easy to use, it may not work in the

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

2016-08-26 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, > On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> >> On 26 Aug 2016, at 08:49, Luc Fabresse wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> My point of view is: >> >> 1) in code/core, we should use (we already said that with Camille in the >> past ;-)):

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

2016-08-26 Thread Luc Fabresse
2016-08-26 9:10 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > > On 26 Aug 2016, at 08:49, Luc Fabresse wrote: > > Hi, > > My point of view is: > > 1) in code/core, we should use (we already said that with Camille in the > past ;-)): > > self environmentAt: #Blah >

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

2016-08-26 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 26 Aug 2016, at 08:49, Luc Fabresse wrote: > > Hi, > > My point of view is: > > 1) in code/core, we should use (we already said that with Camille in the past > ;-)): > > self environmentAt: #Blah > > Object>>environmentAt: aSymbol > ^ self class

Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

2016-08-26 Thread Gour
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:27:24 +0800 Ben Coman wrote: > Definitely. And not necessarily that you *solve* an issues, but that > I found a benefit from "goal directed learning". That's a good point! > When I started using Pharo I learned a lot from: * trying to reproduce >

Re: [Pharo-dev] About asClass and friend

2016-08-26 Thread Luc Fabresse
Hi, My point of view is: 1) in code/core, we should use (we already said that with Camille in the past ;-)): self environmentAt: #Blah Object>>environmentAt: aSymbol ^ self class environmentAt: aSymbol Object class>>environmentAt: aSymbol ... The idea is that we can then customize name

Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

2016-08-26 Thread Gour
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 23:06:51 +0200 Tudor Girba wrote: > It definitely does! We are all noobs in many parts in our system. Heh, I'm for the whole system. :-) > But, if you take your time and are willing to dig, the system is kind > enough to reveal itself to you :). That

Re: [Pharo-dev] About better communication in the community

2016-08-26 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Gour wrote: > On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:05:45 +0200 > stepharo wrote: > >> Yes but we cannot do much > > OK. I got it...do you believe it makes sense for a noob to create account > in case there are some low-hanging fruits to