Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Hi Ben, Le 9 sept. 2015 à 16:03, Ben Coman a écrit : > The interactive graph is cool. Some suggestions: > * Mark nodes of dependencies you want to prune in red. yes, I will add it ASAP > * Allow nodes to be pinned >* http://bl.ocks.org/GerHobbelt/3637711 very good idea. TBH, I justa

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

The data comes from the dependency analyzer analysis (re-compute each time to avoid wrong information) + the information given in Manifests : manuallyResolvedDependencies (potential dependencies needing a human decision) and ignoredDependencies. Le 9 sept. 2015 à 23:32, Tudor Girba a écrit :

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Le 10 sept. 2015 à 15:31, Tudor Girba a écrit : > Hi, > > Ok, I understand that part, but my question was: what code relationships does > the analyzer take into account? Supported dependencies are: inheritance: you inherit from a class of another package reference: there is an explicit

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Christophe Demarey wrote: > Hi Ben, > > Le 9 sept. 2015 à 16:03, Ben Coman a écrit : > > The interactive graph is cool. Some suggestions: > * Mark nodes of dependencies you want to prune in red. > > > yes, I will add it ASAP > > *

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Hi Craig, Le 9 sept. 2015 à 11:53, Craig Latta a écrit : > > Hoi Christophe-- > >> We now have a best overview of bootstrap dependencies. > > That's a pretty grim picture. :) Can you post a movie of you > picking through that ball of connections? (E.g., with the search feature > as you

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Hi, Ok, I understand that part, but my question was: what code relationships does the analyzer take into account? Cheers, Doru On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Christophe Demarey < christophe.dema...@inria.fr> wrote: > The data comes from the dependency analyzer analysis (re-compute each time

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

> I updated the graph. There is now: > > * dependencies to remove in red > * if you double-click on a node, you only see links where the node > is involved. Very nice! -C -- Craig Latta netjam.org +31 6 2757 7177 (SMS ok) + 1 415 287 3547 (no SMS)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Very cool. A couple of minor improvements: * The double-clicked "target" node is also hidden, so its label does not show. * When double-clicking a second node "B", it resets to show all links, rather than showing only the links for "B". Perhaps reset only when the "target" node is double-clicked

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

I updated the graph. There is now: dependencies to remove in red if you double-click on a node, you only see links where the node is involved. Le 10 sept. 2015 à 13:30, Ben Coman a écrit : > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Christophe Demarey > wrote: >> Hi Ben, >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Hoi Christophe-- > We now have a best overview of bootstrap dependencies. That's a pretty grim picture. :) Can you post a movie of you picking through that ball of connections? (E.g., with the search feature as you described, or any with any other UI affordance that you have with this

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

The interactive graph is cool. Some suggestions: * Mark nodes of dependencies you want to prune in red. * Allow nodes to be pinned * http://bl.ocks.org/GerHobbelt/3637711 * http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11584757/interactively-fixing-a-node-in-a-directed-force-graph *

[Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Hi, I created a job to automatically generate a report of the Pharo image dependencies as well as current bootstrap dependencies. You can find them here: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/job/Pharo-5.0-DependencyAnalysis/Dependencies_HTML_Report/dependency-report.html

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Christophe Demarey wrote: > Hi Ben, > > Le 4 sept. 2015 à 17:04, Ben Coman a écrit : >> >> I tried the Dependency Analyzer. First a minor point, it wasn't >> obvious how to invoke it. I expected to see "Dependency Analyzer" in >> the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Ben Coman wrote: > In Package Dependencies Analysis, taking for example "(AST-Core --> > Dependent packages : 15 | Dependencies : 134 (+ 14 extension > dependencies)" If I select Announcements-Core, then click to unselect it, I get "MNU

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Christophe Demarey wrote: > Hi, > > I created a job to automatically generate a report of the Pharo image > dependencies as well as current bootstrap dependencies. > You can find them here: > >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

btw, I'm not sure how much gloss you'd like to put on the Package Dependencies Browser, but just some immediate thoughts: * It feels awkward having the button at the top and the button at the bottom. It would be nicer if the first was also at the bottom on the same line (i.e. half the width).

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Hi Christophe, the tool and this depedency report is great. But how are the dependencies categories "Ignored dependency" , "Dependency to remove" created, is this a manual step? For examlpe, I don't understand why Graphics-Display Objects

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Le 4 sept. 2015 à 18:23, Ben Coman a écrit : > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Christophe Demarey > wrote: >> Hi Ben, >> >> Le 4 sept. 2015 à 17:04, Ben Coman a écrit : >>> >>> I tried the Dependency Analyzer. First a minor point, it wasn't >>> obvious how to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Hi Nicolai, Le 4 sept. 2015 à 21:12, Nicolai Hess a écrit : > Hi Christophe, > > the tool The tool was originally created by Baptiste Quidé and I enhanced it with message send analysis. > and this depedency report is great. Thanks. > But how are the dependencies categories "Ignored

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Le 4/9/15 21:54, Christophe Demarey a écrit : Are examples the only (or majority) kind of ignoredDependencies ? If >there is a significant number of other kinds, it might be useful to >split the examples out At this time, not a lot. It is mostly when you know that a code will not be

Re: [Pharo-dev] Image and bootstrap dependencies

Hi Ben, Le 4 sept. 2015 à 17:04, Ben Coman a écrit : > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Christophe Demarey > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I created a job to automatically generate a report of the Pharo image >> dependencies as well as current bootstrap dependencies. >> You