On 27 Feb 2015, at 23:11, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 27/02/2015 20:26, Marcus Denker a écrit :
On 27 Feb 2015, at 19:48, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Markus,
if I understand correctly some of the possibilities:
- I can use
On 27 Feb 2015, at 13:24, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote:
I can explain why, its the language you use.
For example this feature, I have no clue what you guys are talking about.
For people to be impressed first they need to understand what they should be
impressed with.
I
On 27 Feb 2015, at 13:59, Clara Allende clari.alle...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks super cool :) Now that I finished my exams I can get back on this
too...
Very good!
The idea is to step-by-step take your prototype and move it over.
Next I will do the link-setting infrastructure:
-
I see , I did not realise there is so much negative about Pharo since most
people dont seem to be aware of it and the moment they understand what it
is they are impressed. At least people I introduced to Pharo.
Me too.
And the infrastructure is getting really really great. To be point that I
so essentially live coding the live coding, wow that sounds impressive
indeed.
Thanks for taking the time explaining it.
I guess this feature will be also very useful for people building DSLs with
Pharo.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:24 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote:
in essence we can
Sooner or later then you will have to name people, because talking
generally wont change the situation.
Who in this community believe that improving Pharo is pointless / does not
have an effect ?
I am getting totally opposite feeling with this community. One the reasons
I enjoy Pharo.
On Fri,
Looks super cool :) Now that I finished my exams I can get back on this
too...
Thanks a lot Marcus :)
2015-02-27 9:34 GMT-03:00 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr:
On 27 Feb 2015, at 13:24, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote:
I can explain why, its the language you use.
For example
I can explain why, its the language you use.
For example this feature, I have no clue what you guys are talking about.
For people to be impressed first they need to understand what they should
be impressed with.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
wrote:
On
Great news! I'll get in touch with you and see how I can help :)
2015-02-27 10:16 GMT-03:00 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr:
On 27 Feb 2015, at 13:59, Clara Allende clari.alle...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks super cool :) Now that I finished my exams I can get back on this
too...
Very
Hi Markus,
if I understand correctly some of the possibilities:
- I can use RBParseTreeSearcher / RBParseTreeRewriter on the twin AST.
(any example how to install / invalidate the twin AST after an effective
RBParseTreeRewriter operation?)
- Any change to the Twin AST is reflected in the
in essence we can annotate an AST and the annotations can become live at
runtime and can also represents the computation itself.
So you can have objects that represent properties of the execution
itself and change the execution or something like that :).
So with that we can for example build
I hope that we will get better profilers alex :)
Le 27/2/15 00:15, Alexandre Bergel a écrit :
Wow!!!
This means that one can call #createTwin, modify the AST, and simply call it!
Impressive!!!
Is it per default in Pharo 40516?
Alexandre
On Feb 26, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Marcus Denker
:)
pay attention I have a lot of ideas for you to implement :)
Stef
Le 27/2/15 00:07, Marcus Denker a écrit :
Hi,
In 40516 there is now a strange, but rather powerful mechanism for
CompiledMethod: the Twin.
What does that do?
you can call on a method #createTwin
So many cool things!
We cannot even imagine at this point what all these little conceptual
things will bring in downstream projects. This is amazing.
well there are large conceptual things made looking like little
conceptual things :)
This is the trick but yes we know were we go and I
Thanks clara.
Le 27/2/15 14:24, Clara Allende a écrit :
Great news! I'll get in touch with you and see how I can help :)
2015-02-27 10:16 GMT-03:00 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
mailto:marcus.den...@inria.fr:
On 27 Feb 2015, at 13:59, Clara Allende clari.alle...@gmail.com
Sooner or later then you will have to name people, because talking
generally wont change the situation.
Who in this community believe that improving Pharo is pointless / does
not have an effect ?
marcus is not mentioning people in this community but outside.
I am getting totally
On 27 Feb 2015, at 19:48, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Markus,
if I understand correctly some of the possibilities:
- I can use RBParseTreeSearcher / RBParseTreeRewriter on the twin AST.
(any example how to install / invalidate the twin AST after an effective
Hi thierry
f this implementation follows persephone
the bytecode is the result of the first execution of the AST. So a kind
of JIT inside the system.
The AST is annotated with properties (link to meta objects that can
define the semantics of the annotation).
Stef
Le 27/2/15 19:48, Thierry
Le 27/02/2015 20:26, Marcus Denker a écrit :
On 27 Feb 2015, at 19:48, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Markus,
if I understand correctly some of the possibilities:
- I can use RBParseTreeSearcher / RBParseTreeRewriter on the twin AST.
(any example how to install /
So many cool things!
We cannot even imagine at this point what all these little conceptual
things will bring in downstream projects. This is amazing.
Thanks a lot,
Doru
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
wrote:
Hi,
In 40516 there is now a strange, but
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
So many cool things!
We cannot even imagine at this point what all these little conceptual
things will bring in downstream projects. This is amazing.
Interestingly, the world view of most people is different... they
This is excellent!
On Feb 26, 2015, at 20:07, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
Hi,
In 40516 there is now a strange, but rather powerful mechanism for
CompiledMethod: the Twin.
What does that do?
you can call on a method #createTwin
Hi,
In 40516 there is now a strange, but rather powerful mechanism for
CompiledMethod: the Twin.
What does that do?
you can call on a method #createTwin
(ReflectivityExamples#exampleMethod) createTwin.
after this, the CompiledMethod has a high-level representation (the AST)
Wow!!!
This means that one can call #createTwin, modify the AST, and simply call it!
Impressive!!!
Is it per default in Pharo 40516?
Alexandre
On Feb 26, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
Hi,
In 40516 there is now a strange, but rather powerful mechanism for
Cool!
(spotter does not work on this methods, do we have to change this
in the class ReactiveMethod or spotter?)
Oh and inspecting the ReflectiveMethod ast with GTInspector has
some strange effect
2015-02-27 0:24 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de:
Cool!
(spotter does not work on this methods, do we have to change this
in the class ReactiveMethod or spotter?)
On 27 Feb 2015, at 00:24, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote:
Cool!
(spotter does not work on this methods, do we have to change this
in the class ReactiveMethod or spotter?)
we need to copy the methods over…
Marcus
On 27 Feb 2015, at 00:15, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:
Wow!!!
This means that one can call #createTwin, modify the AST, and simply call it!
Impressive!!!
You need to handle invalidation yourself, too. (for now).
I want to first concentrate on purely “annotation” based
On 27 Feb 2015, at 00:26, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:
On 27 Feb 2015, at 00:15, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote:
Wow!!!
This means that one can call #createTwin, modify the AST, and simply call it!
Impressive!!!
You need to handle invalidation
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