[Pharo-project] Fwd: I have the following version of Seaside

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi Fritz I think that some guys already answer that question in the pharo mailing-list I have to run now (kid business). Stef Begin forwarded message: From: Fritz Schenk fritz_sch...@countrywide.com Date: March 21, 2009 1:28:11 AM CEST To: stephane.duca...@inria.fr Subject: I have the

Re: [Pharo-project] How to rename a package ?

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I did not read it :) indeed in that case definitively into SmallIint Stef On Mar 20, 2009, at 11:28 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: For me I see that more as a menu to rename a package :) The script does not rename a package. It just lists the code that is not contained in any Monticello

Re: [Pharo-project] I need some advice (was Re: [squeak-dev] Organising and Documenting Micro-Universes in Squeaksource)

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
But you never even understood what the reason behind kernel-extension was, you criticised it and refused to use anything that depended on it, because it wasn't perfectly what you wanted, and it contained method overrides. This was feedback and explanation for YOU of why we did not include

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo a VMs

2009-03-21 Thread Alexandre Bergel
All VM on which Squeak run may be safely used with Pharo. This may change in the future with the introduction of closures. Cheers, Alexandre On 20 Mar 2009, at 21:59, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi men! I know very little about VMs but I have a very simple question, which vms are 100%

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Rewriting an Input/EventSensor code

2009-03-21 Thread Igor Stasenko
2009/3/21 Andreas Raab andreas.r...@gmx.de: Igor Stasenko wrote: Recently , we discussed it with Andreas, and had an idea to integrate this with Announcement framework (and Announcement will become a core package). Actually, Jecel propsed the combination. Here is my vision , how things

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Rewriting an Input/EventSensor code

2009-03-21 Thread Igor Stasenko
2009/3/21 Michael Rueger m.rue...@acm.org: Igor Stasenko wrote: Wait, i proposing nearly same: Have an event source which produces (non-morphic) event objects and InputSensor. I just want to know where Announcements takes part of it, or should be postpone that for a next step? What I did

Re: [Pharo-project] I need some advice (was Re: [squeak-dev] Organising and Documenting Micro-Universes in Squeaksource)

2009-03-21 Thread Keith Hodges
Janko Mivšek wrote: Guys, Let me say few words from my experience, because such fork actually happened to Swazoo, which maintainer I am. So, was I insulted? Well, I was surely not happy, but insulted? No! I took that as a competitive pressure to be even better with main Swazoo line. To

Re: [Pharo-project] I need some advice (was Re: [squeak-dev] Organising and Documenting Micro-Universes in Squeaksource)

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
janko did we do a fork of swazoo? I mean in pharo? I was not aware of that. Stef On Mar 21, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Janko Mivšek wrote: Guys, Let me say few words from my experience, because such fork actually happened to Swazoo, which maintainer I am. So, was I insulted? Well, I was surely

Re: [Pharo-project] I need some advice (was Re: [squeak-dev] Organising and Documenting Micro-Universes in Squeaksource)

2009-03-21 Thread Janko Mivšek
Hi Stef, Stéphane Ducasse pravi: did we do a fork of swazoo? I mean in pharo? I was not aware of that. No, not on Pharo and not by you the Pharo guys. Fork named Hyper was done on VW and Gemstone. Sorry for misunderstanding, I made a general example to show and to recommend, what to do in

[Pharo-project] Mickael system submission Slice merging problem

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi mike could you redo you system organization changes? I checked with lukas we get a problem with the two merging tools :). Else what I can do is to keep track of the conflicts by hand (only a few) and load then revert. Because apparently MC does let me merge directly your changes. I can try

Re: [Pharo-project] Mickael system submission Slice merging problem

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I tried to load one by one the package and revert the conflicts when necessary. It somehow succeeded but now I have problem because the scriptLoader behavior does not work when trying to reload them. I have to investigate that further. I will have a look later. Stef On Mar 21, 2009, at 1:46

Re: [Pharo-project] Mickael system submission Slice merging problem

2009-03-21 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi mike could you redo you system organization changes? I will take a look. All the slice should do is to exchange packaging, it is not supposed to change any code at all. If there have been changes in the meantime, I simply need to do re-packaging again. Michael

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: I need some advice (was Re: [squeak-dev] Organising and Documenting Micro-Universes in Squeaksource)

2009-03-21 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Keith, Interestingly, I could make only minor modifications, and write that same paragraph with Squeak as the stone wall. The Squeak community ignored many wonderful ideas over a period of years of maintenance and incremental development; IMHO, look there to explain the numerous forks. Pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] Mickael system submission Slice merging problem

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Mike I found the problem (besides the merging problem): what I did is to load and revert the conflicts when necessary. I also fixed platform initializtioant invocation. Then I fixed a bug in the scriptLoader that was using space as separator. I will publish soon a new version if I succeed.

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10257 System Package creation

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
with this version System have now packages So far I learned that merging is quite broken when only moving between packages both merge tools do not work and this is probably a MC problem Pavel I got a conflict wiht the more general beep. I reverted and hope this is ok. What is left to do

Re: [Pharo-project] Mickael system submission Slice merging problem

2009-03-21 Thread Michael Rueger
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: what will happen with Test (which contains already some tests) SystemChangeNotification-Tests-sd.11.mcz Tests-sd.46.mcz Tests-System-Digital Signatures-sd.2.mcz Tests-System-Object Events-sd.2.mcz Tests-SystemChangeNotification-sd.2.mcz So I think that we

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo a VMs

2009-03-21 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Is it fair to say all _recent_ VMs? A few months back, I had problems with older w32 vms at least. It was obvious: complete freeze of the GUI on startup. I switched to a VM I got from 3.10 with no problems, and then switched to Bryce's Exupery VMs (win and Linux) more recently. Bill

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: I need some advice (was Re: [squeak-dev] Organising and Documenting Micro-Universes in Squeaksource)

2009-03-21 Thread Keith Hodges
Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: Keith, Interestingly, I could make only minor modifications, and write that same paragraph with Squeak as the stone wall. The Squeak community ignored many wonderful ideas Which is why we have finally got to a stage where the paradigm has shifted, even up to board

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Rewriting an Input/EventSensor code

2009-03-21 Thread John M McIntosh
On 21-Mar-09, at 3:09 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: Right, but here we're talking about doing such conversion much more earlier (at event source object), so then event sensor already deals with first class event objects. I want to know, if such scheme (which i described in first post) is

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Rewriting an Input/EventSensor code

2009-03-21 Thread Igor Stasenko
2009/3/21 John M McIntosh john...@smalltalkconsulting.com: On 21-Mar-09, at 3:09 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: Right, but here we're talking about doing such conversion much more earlier (at event source object), so then event sensor already deals with first class event objects. I want to know,

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with senders?

2009-03-21 Thread David Röthlisberger
I have a pharo0.1-10236dev09.02 but updated trougth: right button - system update - to 10256. Nothing more installed. You should take a more recent pharo-dev or also update OB with 'ScriptLoader loadOB'. system update doesn't update OB. David On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Mariano

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: Rewriting an Input/EventSensor code

2009-03-21 Thread Igor Stasenko
2009/3/21 Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com: 2009/3/21 John M McIntosh john...@smalltalkconsulting.com: On 21-Mar-09, at 3:09 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: Right, but here we're talking about doing such conversion much more earlier (at event source object), so then event sensor already deals with

Re: [Pharo-project] Mickael system submission Slice merging problem

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I will do that now. So we can clean the inbox. Stef On Mar 21, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Michael Rueger wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote: what will happen with Test (which contains already some tests) SystemChangeNotification-Tests-sd.11.mcz Tests-sd.46.mcz Tests-System-Digital

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [ANN] 10254

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
so henrik is is ok if I remove areasRemainingToFill: from BorderedMorph? Stef On Mar 19, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: I know, which is why I thought it was strange, the .cs contained: !BorderedMorph removeSelector: #areasRemainingToFill:! which when I file it in, results in no

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Re: I need some advice (was Re: [squeak-dev] Organising and Documenting Micro-Universes in Squeaksource)

2009-03-21 Thread Keith Hodges
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: over a period of years of maintenance and incremental development; When I fully joined the squeak community, who was running the release team? Yes it was exactly the same guys as are the pharo team, namely Stef, and Marcus. boh we are the

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10258 Test package created

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Created a bunch a testpackage based on mike proposal. Now the inbox should be empty and we should focus on the closures (and not removing project :). Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Issue 668: should clean the option-World click menu

2009-03-21 Thread Rob Rothwell
Is this what you are talking about? What would you like instead? What was the intent of the option-World click menu? Rob 2009/3/20 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Begin forwarded message: *From: *pharo-project-ow...@lists.gforge.inria.fr *Date: *March 19, 2009 3:13:47 PM CEST

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with senders?

2009-03-21 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:21 PM, David Röthlisberger squ...@webcitas.chwrote: I have a pharo0.1-10236dev09.02 but updated trougth: right button - system update - to 10256. Nothing more installed. You should take a more recent pharo-dev or also update OB with 'ScriptLoader loadOB'. system

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Issue 668: should clean the option-World click menu

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
probably I see Picture 1.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document On Mar 21, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: Is this what you are talking about? What would you like instead? What was the intent of the option-World click menu? Rob 2009/3/20 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr

[Pharo-project] to relax

2009-03-21 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
to relax I started to curve out projectHistory and I found that. So for sure pharo will be cool. enter: returningFlag revert: revertFlag saveForRevert: saveForRevert Install my ChangeSet, Transcript, and scheduled views as current globals. If returningFlag is true, we will

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [vwnc] Would you start a new Smalltalk project today?

2009-03-21 Thread Michael van der Gulik
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Janko Mivšek janko.miv...@eranova.siwrote: Philippe Marschall pravi: Michael van der Gulik wrote: So now it seems that Gemstone is the only multi-core capable Smalltalk VM :-(. AFAIK Gemstone isn't multi-core capable as well. You can just run multiple

[Pharo-project] seaside pier on the iPhone

2009-03-21 Thread John M McIntosh
For a couple of months now I have been working on a seaside/pier based Wiki for the iPhone. I am now about a week away from sending it off to the Apple app store. However I'd like to broaden the beta test group a bit so I can catch any issues before I submit it, especially in the area of