Re: [Pharo-project] Impossible launc/use Lumiere

2009-09-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
this looks cool! really getting widgest like the accordeon style in javaScript would be great. Stef On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:43 PM, nullPointer wrote: > > > Do you know WPF? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-T-yF3tXCc > > Oks, forget a moment that it is of Mocosoft :) > > I will like create s

Re: [Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder

2009-09-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> i published the CLFramework package > > http://www.squeaksource.com/CLFramework.html Excellent! > > Is totally alpha version, not valid for serious apps.The set of > widgets of > Polymoprh adapteds to designer is limited, and don´t works with normal > mechanism as MorphicModel, else with event

[Pharo-project] Updated the list of ok committers after ESUG signature

2009-09-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi I updated the list and the svn repo with the list of ok committers. Thanks for your signature! Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

[Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder

2009-09-07 Thread Torsten Bergmann
>i published the CLFramework package Nice! First bug report: In CLBuilderMainForm>>createNewView you send #alert:text:title: to the current UI theme but this message is not in the latest core image. Bye Torsten -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,

Re: [Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder

2009-09-07 Thread Gary Chambers
Better off doing UITheme builder alert: 'a message' title: 'Alert!'. Regards, Gary - Original Message - From: "Torsten Bergmann" To: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 12:45 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder >i published the CLFramework package Nice! First bug repor

Re: [Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder

2009-09-07 Thread nullPointer
>What do you mean? >That you use Announcements? I use #triggerEvent: mechanism, but hided. I dont know of Announcements ; what is the difference? Basically the control when want launch a event (for example the click) call the message #raiseOnClick:args: where the first parameter is the sender

[Pharo-project] problem with running Pharo under Solaris 10 9/05

2009-09-07 Thread ivaylo . ganchev
Hello. I can't manage to run the virtual machine under solaris 10. I have permanently the following output: -bash: ./squeak: Invalid argument Here is the output when I try to run the image with the vm of squeak: iconv_open: Invalid argument This interpreter (vers. 6502) cannot read image file (

Re: [Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder

2009-09-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Sep 7, 2009, at 2:37 PM, nullPointer wrote: > > > >> What do you mean? >> That you use Announcements? > > I use #triggerEvent: mechanism, but hided. I dont know of > Announcements ; > what is the difference? with announcement you get an object around and not just a symbol. For the future us

Re: [Pharo-project] problem with running Pharo under Solaris 10 9/05

2009-09-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
first you should try squeak to run on solaris because there was a release on the new squeak vm. Then solaris this is 10 years I do not touch one :) Stef On Sep 7, 2009, at 3:58 PM, ivaylo.ganc...@univ-paris8.fr wrote: > Hello. > > I can't manage to run the virtual machine under solaris 10. I h

[Pharo-project] The better debugger support by extending an Object protocol

2009-09-07 Thread Igor Stasenko
Hello guys, i'd like to discuss with you an idea of having a specific methods in Object class for a better and more clever behavior when debugging. For those of you who are using different kinds of proxies, the main problem with them that you should override the #printOn: or #printString methods i

[Pharo-project] [update] 10440

2009-09-07 Thread Marcus Denker
10440 - Issue 897: MethodPragmaTest>>testReformat failure Issue 1164: test failure: #testClassWithInvalidClassVariablesShouldNotBeReferencedByItsSuperclass -- Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile _

Re: [Pharo-project] The better debugger support by extending an Object protocol

2009-09-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
good idea! We will add that in pharo if you open a bug item ticket. Stef On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Hello guys, > i'd like to discuss with you an idea of having a specific methods in > Object class for a better and more clever behavior when debugging. > > For those of you

Re: [Pharo-project] Using Pharo from the command-line

2009-09-07 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi Stefan, On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Stefan Marr wrote: > However as a thank you and for my own records, a small tutorial for > your google code wiki: I've put your text to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CommandLine. Thank you very much -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasideho

Re: [Pharo-project] The better debugger support by extending an Object protocol

2009-09-07 Thread Igor Stasenko
2009/9/7 Stéphane Ducasse : > good idea! > We will add that in pharo if you open a bug item ticket. > Stef > I could add it easily. But first we should make a good expertise, if this change is worth doing. Because for Object it means a trivial addition of a method, but for Debugger/Inspector and o

Re: [Pharo-project] Closure review

2009-09-07 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi Michael, On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > can someone point me to any of the following > 2) a definitive squeak (or other) image with closures integrated. Did > Elliot publish a closure image? Pharo has closures for a long time now: http://pharo-project.org/pharo-downl

Re: [Pharo-project] problem with running Pharo under Solaris 10 9/05

2009-09-07 Thread Ivaylo Ganchev
Squeak works fine under solaris 10, I managed to compile one with some struggle. Now a teacher at our department wants to have pharo, because she feels better with it. I was suggested by her to ask a for assistance at the mailing list. Regards, Ivaylo Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > first you should

Re: [Pharo-project] The better debugger support by extending an Object protocol

2009-09-07 Thread Peter Hugosson-Miller
On 7 sep 2009, at 17.02, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Hello guys, > i'd like to discuss with you an idea of having a specific methods in > Object class for a better and more clever behavior when debugging. > > For those of you who are using different kinds of proxies, the main > problem with them that

Re: [Pharo-project] Using Pharo from the command-line

2009-09-07 Thread Igor Stasenko
The problem with command-line arguments as a file names, like: cat myfile.foo is that the location of myfile.foo is determined by using a search path , usually provided in environment PATH var of a shell. I worked in a different unix shells, and some of them, do not adding/using the ./ into the

Re: [Pharo-project] dnu - isScarySelector not found

2009-09-07 Thread Damien Cassou
Hi Carlos, could you please explain all the steps to reproduce and tell us exactly what image you are using. 2009/9/4 Carlos Crosetti : > Hi, > > On any existing subclass of Object, I add a class method, I add > "testSelector" > > Got MNU Metaclass(class) dnu isScarySelector > OBMethodDefinition>

Re: [Pharo-project] The better debugger support by extending an Object protocol

2009-09-07 Thread Henrik Johansen
Well, if the goal is to be able to differentiate between two objects who should behave similar in all cases except when you print them while debugging, I can't really think of any better ways :) Playing the devil's advocate, here's two things to consider: - Some people will likely expect *all* pro

Re: [Pharo-project] problem with running Pharo under Solaris 10 9/05

2009-09-07 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi, for Pharo you need a closure enable VM. You can try from here: http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/ the version Squeak-3.10-6 Or try http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip Best, Mariano On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Ivaylo Ganchev < ivaylo.ganc...@univ-paris8.

Re: [Pharo-project] The better debugger support by extending an Object protocol

2009-09-07 Thread Igor Stasenko
2009/9/7 Peter Hugosson-Miller : > On 7 sep 2009, at 17.02, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> Hello guys, >> i'd like to discuss with you an idea of having a specific methods in >> Object class for a better and more clever behavior when debugging. >> >> For those of you who are using different kinds of pr

Re: [Pharo-project] The better debugger support by extending an Object protocol

2009-09-07 Thread Igor Stasenko
2009/9/7 Henrik Johansen : > Well, if the goal is to be able to differentiate between two objects who > should behave similar in all cases except when you print them while > debugging, I can't really think of any better ways :) > > Playing the devil's advocate, here's two things to consider: > - So

Re: [Pharo-project] The better debugger support by extending an Object protocol

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Roberts
I think it is a reasonable approach. GemStone has a few debugger switches which affect the debugging of proxies ( at least stubs) so I mention that since it is a similar area. Where your extension perhaps wouldn't scale is if this became an enthusiastic growth of API if you found other useful thing

Re: [Pharo-project] Using Pharo from the command-line

2009-09-07 Thread David T. Lewis
See class ShellSyntax in package CommandShell (be sure to load the unit tests also). The class comment for ShellSyntax is: My instances implement parsing of strings in a manner similar to a simple Unix command shell. I provide path name expansion in the context of an external file system, a

[Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10440

2009-09-07 Thread Damien Cassou
I've just uploaded new Pharo and Pharo-web images based on 10440: http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download. Refactorings should work again. Please report any issue -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by

Re: [Pharo-project] Closure review

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Roberts
Hi yes I know. I was not clear enough. Pharo gas had closures for some time and I helped test the integration - but the debugger has been broken since they were integrated. I wanted the definitive source so I could check the integration. It turns out eliot knew the debugger was broken along with a

[Pharo-project] confusion about where to look for sources file

2009-09-07 Thread Ross Boylan
I got http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/23087/pharo1.0-10440-BETAdev09.09.1.zip and http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22745/pharo-vm-0.15.2d-linux.zip. Both unzipped into subdirectories. In the top level directory I created symlinks to the image and changes file (from the first zip) a

[Pharo-project] OSProcess and SqueakMap

2009-09-07 Thread Ross Boylan
I want to run the magma tester, which is much easier if OS Process is around. It doesn't seem to be in the image or Monticello, and I think it is only available from SqueakMap. What's the best way to get OSProcess into the image? Is it already there? Not compatible? A few months ago the recomm

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess and SqueakMap

2009-09-07 Thread David T. Lewis
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 12:15:28PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > I want to run the magma tester, which is much easier if OS Process is > around. It doesn't seem to be in the image or Monticello, and I think > it is only available from SqueakMap. OSProcess and CommandShell (formerly part of OSProces

Re: [Pharo-project] CLFramework-UIBuilder

2009-09-07 Thread nullPointer
I don´t understand. The last dev image (10440) works for me in that point :( . Regards. Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >>i published the CLFramework package > > Nice! > > > First bug report: > In CLBuilderMainForm>>createNewView you send > #alert:text:title: to the current UI theme > > but

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess and SqueakMap

2009-09-07 Thread Ross Boylan
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 16:00 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 12:15:28PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > > I want to run the magma tester, which is much easier if OS Process is > > around. It doesn't seem to be in the image or Monticello, and I think > > it is only available from

[Pharo-project] VNC on mac?

2009-09-07 Thread Lawson English
I've been trying to test the RFBServer on a Mac using the Seaside 2.8.4 image. I'm using Chicken of the VNC as my VNC client, but all I get is a static iamge of the Squeak desktop. Can't referesh and certainly can't interact. The connection info says it IS an interactive session though. Any id

[Pharo-project] Patterns for Extensible Code Models

2009-09-07 Thread Andrew P. Black
I was talking today about ways of extending a code model (like, the one inside Pharo that represents my packages, classes, and methods), and realized that I need to publicize some patterns that Daniel Vanisencher and I worked out some years ago when we were trying to separate the computatio

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess and SqueakMap

2009-09-07 Thread Ross Boylan
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 13:50 -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > OSProcess loaded fine, but CommandShell says PluggableTextController > and > PluggableTextView. ... are required classes. Ross ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr htt

Re: [Pharo-project] problem with running Pharo under Solaris 10 9/05

2009-09-07 Thread Bryce Kampjes
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 15:58 +0200, ivaylo.ganc...@univ-paris8.fr wrote: > Hello. > > I can't manage to run the virtual machine under solaris 10. I have > permanently the following output: > > -bash: ./squeak: Invalid argument > > Here is the output when I try to run the image with the vm of sque

Re: [Pharo-project] request for the new merge tool :)

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Roberts
the merge tool is driving me a little mad... How hard would it be to make this change? Also is there any documentation available on the polymorph merge tool? thanks, Mike On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > 2009/7/6 Gary Chambers : >> For reference, when merging (rather than c

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger fixes was Re: Getting Pharo 1.0 released

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Roberts
Stef, all, a process question... so I am merging closure fixes from squeak trunk into pharo-core Prior to doing this in MC I had filed out Eliot's first exceptions change set from a squeak trunk image giving me the diff that was applied to the base squeak-trunk image during the system update.

[Pharo-project] Merge tool bug?

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Roberts
Can someone comment on expected behaviour in the picture? I have a method that is in both my source and destination images but the merge tool shows me a blank left hand pane. I thought the left hand pane was ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess and SqueakMap

2009-09-07 Thread David T. Lewis
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 01:50:14PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 16:00 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 12:15:28PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > > > I want to run the magma tester, which is much easier if OS Process is > > > around. It doesn't seem to be i

[Pharo-project] MorphTreeMorph

2009-09-07 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, It looks like in the latest Pharo images (both core and dev) the MorphTreeMorph class is missing. In fact, it looks like the whole System-Settings package is missing. Is there a reason for this? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle."

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess and SqueakMap

2009-09-07 Thread David T. Lewis
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:45:05PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 19:12 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 01:50:14PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > > > On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 16:00 -0400, David T. Lewis wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 12:15:28PM -0700, R

[Pharo-project] Make things easy for newcomers!! (Was: Re: OSProcess and SqueakMap)

2009-09-07 Thread Igor Stasenko
A new blood in the herd! Wellcome. As for the rest of gray-beards, i wonder, how long it to make a debugger window to pop-up with one additional button, named 'file a but report' so then any newcomers will send a proper stack trace instead of a screenshot and implementation of DNU method? Ross, d

Re: [Pharo-project] VNC on mac?

2009-09-07 Thread Lawson English
Hmmm... Went ahead and tried it with the latest squeak version from squeak.org and it worked fine. Could there be a problem with Snow Leopard and the seaside image? Lawson English wrote: > I've been trying to test the RFBServer on a Mac using the Seaside 2.8.4 > image. I'm using Chicken of

Re: [Pharo-project] VNC on mac?

2009-09-07 Thread Lawson English
And downloaded the latest pharo + seaisde/pier image from the pharo site and it works. Sigh. Lawson English wrote: > Hmmm... Went ahead and tried it with the latest squeak version from > squeak.org and it worked fine. > > > Could there be a problem with Snow Leopard and the seaside image? > > >

Re: [Pharo-project] MorphTreeMorph

2009-09-07 Thread Marcus Denker
On 07.09.2009, at 20:10, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > It looks like in the latest Pharo images (both core and dev) the > MorphTreeMorph class is missing. In fact, it looks like the whole > System-Settings package is missing. > > Is there a reason for this? > Hello, The settings were not used an

Re: [Pharo-project] Make things easy for newcomers!! (Was: Re: OSProcess and SqueakMap)

2009-09-07 Thread Ross Boylan
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 17:50 -0700, Igor Stasenko wrote: > A new blood in the herd! Wellcome. Thank you. I've used smalltalk and squeak for many years, albeit intermittently, BTW. > > As for the rest of gray-beards, i wonder, how long it to make a > debugger window to pop-up with > one additional

Re: [Pharo-project] Using Pharo from the command-line

2009-09-07 Thread Stuart Herring
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > The problem with command-line arguments as a file names, like: > > cat myfile.foo > > is that the location of myfile.foo is determined by using a search > path , usually provided in environment PATH var of a shell. That's not actually true - t

Re: [Pharo-project] confusion about where to look for sources file

2009-09-07 Thread Damien Cassou
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: > So, I think it is not looking for the sources in the image directory. > Ideally, it would; alternately, the error message should be consistent > with the current behavior. Both solutions are viable solutions normally. -- Damien Cassou http://d

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess and SqueakMap

2009-09-07 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks a lot david. Both are important for us. On Sep 7, 2009, at 10:00 PM, David T. Lewis wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 12:15:28PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: >> I want to run the magma tester, which is much easier if OS Process is >> around. It doesn't seem to be in the image or Monticello, a

[Pharo-project] dnu - isScarySelector not found

2009-09-07 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Had the same problem in one of the latest dev images as soon as one implements a class side method in one of the browsers. Easy to fix: Just hitting "create" and implementing the method in Metaclass with ^false solved the problem. Bye T. -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-

Re: [Pharo-project] request for the new merge tool :)

2009-09-07 Thread Lukas Renggli
> the merge tool is driving me a little mad... How hard would it be to > make this change? Also is there any documentation available on the > polymorph merge tool? I use Preferences disable: #useNewDiffToolsForMC. to get the old merge/diff tool. The new one doesn't work for me at all. Lukas

Re: [Pharo-project] MorphTreeMorph

2009-09-07 Thread Alain Plantec
Hil all, MorphTreeMorph and related are still not mature enough to be considered as part of standard widgets. This is why it is private to the settings package. For 1.0, I think it is better to not integrate it Cheers Alain Marcus Denker a écrit : > On 07.09.2009, at 20:10, Tudor Girba wrote: >