On 31.08.2010 08:47, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
snip
Yeah, that's why I added the 20 4KB docs / sec number.
I really doubt the conversion will be a significant part of the processing time
if what you send out is so small you are able to convert 800k messages per
second...
It depends on the
alchemist!
Stef
On Aug 31, 2010, at 1:20 AM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
> Henrik, you must be a kind of sorcerer or maybe a devil!
>
> Nicolas
>
> 2010/8/31 Henrik Sperre Johansen :
>> On 30.08.2010 22:05, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
>>>
>>> 2010/8/30 Stéphane Ducasse:
On Aug 30, 2010, at
On 8/30/2010 1:40 AM, Johan Brichau wrote:
I am not a lawyer but as far as I understand this topic, no license means
nobody can use the code at all, which contradicts the fact of having it in a
public repository (and you being perfectly happy of people using it).
Can you please clarify the lice
>> snip
>>
>>> Yeah, that's why I added the 20 4KB docs / sec number.
>>> I really doubt the conversion will be a significant part of the processing
>>> time if what you send out is so small you are able to convert 800k messages
>>> per second...
>>
>> It depends on the machine/load/etc.
>
don;t worry levente
Nicolas was sensitive to the fact that you laugh because you consider that our
process is close and that I
have all the powers, which is false. We proposed in the past to Nicolas to help
integrate changes
but this is too boring in pharo so I do the dirty work and should work
so now we understand why Pharo design is crap :)
Sorry I could resist
It would be nice if we were a bit more adults. What is strange is that
some people catalyze communication problems (me included) but we should live
with that.
I added your bench to the issue too.
Stef
On Aug 31, 2010, at
Hi -
Thanks everyone for the reasoned and civil responses. It is good to see
that we can have a disagreement without getting overly personal.
Unfortunately, it seems that I'm effectively offered a no-win
alternative here; I do not see how any of the discussed alternatives
would help me achiev
thanks added to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2885
Stef
On Aug 31, 2010, at 12:22 AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>
> In Squeak(CogVM):
> "7-bit ByteString"
> mediumDoc := ByteString new: 4096 streamContents: [ :stream |
> 4096 timesRepeat: [ stream nextPut: (Character value: 1
I'm working slowly through Seaside, Aida, Pharo etc. I just wonder what
you are using to make "usable" reports. (Be it in electronical form or
printed). A related question, how does you interface e.g to let's say
OpenOffice or maybe MS Office?
Thanks for suggestions.
Friedrich
--
Q-Software Sol
"Schwab,Wilhelm K" writes:
> Levente,
>
> I stand by the analogy of GPL's history and the more emotional
> undertones of the current discussion. Dismissing it won't make it go
> away.
IMHO you are fully right. The fact still is if something is OS it
forkable. Maye under certain conditions but it
Levente,
I stand by the analogy of GPL's history and the more emotional undertones of
the current discussion. Dismissing it won't make it go away.
Bill
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[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On
Are the VM changes you mention the ones that exist now in the Linux VM?
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
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Sure, I think that should work fine.
Dave
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 04:27:15PM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Dave,
>
> It's not obvious to me that Pharo won't take strings, but it looks that way
> because Squeak 4.1 has tests on type and by-name methods that are not in
> Pharo. One thought I
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
wrote:
>
> On Aug 30, 2010, at 4:28 AM, Sudhakar Krishnamachari wrote:
>
>>
>> Good to see some of the concerns addressed.
>>
>> "
>> Now so far I do not see companies really putting effort so may be nothing
>> will happen but this will not be
>>
Thanks both of you for pointing me in the right direction. I was able to
get something similar to what is in OBMorphicIcons>>breakpoint by doing
this:
methodContents := WriteStream on: ''.
(OBMorphicIcons iconNamed: #breakpoint) storeOn: methodContents.
methodContents inspect.
But the contents a
To be tested : http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1057
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I recalled seeing mention of the Linux vm's now supporting named ports, and I
> found the code for that, at least in the vm. My understanding gets fuzzy
2010/8/30 Henrik Sperre Johansen
> On 31.08.2010 01:32, Eliot Miranda wrote:
>
> Hi Henrik,
>
> twice you write a slip that the compiler should not allow:
>
> (map := characterToGlyphMap)
> ifNotNil: [:map | code := map at: code + 1].
>
> code := (map := characterToGlyphMap)
> ifNil:
On 31.08.2010 01:21, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
snip
Yeah, that's why I added the 20 4KB docs / sec number.
I really doubt the conversion will be a significant part of the
processing time if what you send out is so small you are able to
conv
On 31.08.2010 01:32, Eliot Miranda wrote:
Hi Henrik,
twice you write a slip that the compiler should not allow:
(map := characterToGlyphMap)
ifNotNil: [:map | code := map at: code + 1].
code := (map := characterToGlyphMap)
ifNil: [aCharacter charCode]
ifNotNil: [:map | map at: aCharacter
Hi Henrik,
twice you write a slip that the compiler should not allow:
(map := characterToGlyphMap)
ifNotNil: [:map | code := map at: code + 1].
code := (map := characterToGlyphMap)
ifNil: [aCharacter charCode]
ifNotNil: [:map | map at: aCharacter charCode + 1]
these should read
characterT
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote:
El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:43 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote:
> El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:25 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Friedrich Dominicus wrote:
>
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
2010/8/31 Levente Uzonyi :
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
Hi Pharoers,
snip
Come-on guys, despite Levente's cutting remark, you're not inferior to
squeakers ;) (and you don't have to answer to that stupid conclusion).
Uh, what rem
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
snip
Yeah, that's why I added the 20 4KB docs / sec number.
I really doubt the conversion will be a significant part of the processing
time if what you send out is so small you are able to convert 800k messages
per second...
It depends
Henrik, you must be a kind of sorcerer or maybe a devil!
Nicolas
2010/8/31 Henrik Sperre Johansen :
> On 30.08.2010 22:05, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
>>
>> 2010/8/30 Stéphane Ducasse:
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Johan Brichau wrote:
>>>
so what did you do?
I see that the file
El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:44 +0200, Henrik Sperre Johansen escribió:
> On 30.08.2010 22:05, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
> > 2010/8/30 Stéphane Ducasse:
> >> On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Johan Brichau wrote:
> >>
> >>> so what did you do?
> >>>
> >>> I see that the file got removed... I will submit a
2010/8/31 Nicolas Cellier :
> 2010/8/31 Levente Uzonyi :
>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pharoers,
>>
>> snip
>>
>>> Come-on guys, despite Levente's cutting remark, you're not inferior to
>>> squeakers ;) (and you don't have to answer to that stupid conclusion).
>>
>> Uh, w
El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:43 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote:
>
> > El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:25 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió:
> > On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Friedrich Dominicus wrote:
> >
> > > Levente Uzonyi writes:
> >
> > > On Mon, 3
2010/8/31 Levente Uzonyi :
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
>
>> Hi Pharoers,
>
> snip
>
>> Come-on guys, despite Levente's cutting remark, you're not inferior to
>> squeakers ;) (and you don't have to answer to that stupid conclusion).
>
> Uh, what remark?
>
Oh, you know, the missint
On 31.08.2010 00:34, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Henrik Johansen wrote:
snip
"MediumDoc is a pure ascii ByteString of size 4096"
[1 to: 10 do: [:ix |MediumDoc
squeakToUtf8]] timeToRun 362 384
[1 to: 10 do: [:ix | MediumDoc
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
Hi Pharoers,
snip
Come-on guys, despite Levente's cutting remark, you're not inferior to
squeakers ;) (and you don't have to answer to that stupid conclusion).
Uh, what remark?
Nicolas
snip
___
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
GPL is designed to hold people (mostly commercial interests) hostage. Some of
what is going on here sounds the same: it's open but not really. A web client
is not so terribly difficult to write that we should compromise on licensing in
order to u
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote:
El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:25 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Friedrich Dominicus wrote:
> Levente Uzonyi writes:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
I suggest that the people that want and k
GPL is designed to hold people (mostly commercial interests) hostage. Some of
what is going on here sounds the same: it's open but not really. A web client
is not so terribly difficult to write that we should compromise on licensing in
order to use one. I have a *terribly* simple one that I c
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Henrik Johansen wrote:
snip
"MediumDoc is a pure ascii ByteString of size 4096"
[1 to: 10 do: [:ix |MediumDoc
squeakToUtf8]] timeToRun 362 384
[1 to: 10 do: [:ix | MediumDoc
convertToEncoding: 'utf-8']] timeToRun 437 56
El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:25 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Friedrich Dominicus wrote:
>
> > Levente Uzonyi writes:
>
> > On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> >
>
> I suggest that the people that want and know, group together and build
> an ope
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Friedrich Dominicus wrote:
Levente Uzonyi writes:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I suggest that the people that want and know, group together and build an
open-source one.
Why do you have to have your "own" library?
Did I say "pharo library"? reread
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Henrik Johansen wrote:
On Aug 30, 2010, at 2:57 47PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Henrik Johansen wrote:
On Aug 30, 2010, at 1:06 10PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I suggest that the people that want and know,
Hi James,
2010/8/30 James Ladd
> Hi Eliot,
>
> I cant use those thinks because im not in Smalltalk at the time, im in Java
> on the JVM.
>
Ah, OK. Now I understand.
> (Did someone say 'challenge')
>
> I thought about the store question in the shower this morning and I think
> it means
> tak
(sorry, pine can't quote your mail correctly...)
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote:
El lun, 30-08-2010 a las 13:06 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió:
What I get from Andreas' words is that he's willing to make it open source
if it won't be forked.
"This is plain wrong, Yo
I haven't done much with it, and there are some deprecation warnings, but
it's running. In the attached screenshot, the "host 2" entry in the
"Detected Hosts" window is the Squeak 4.1 image running on the right.
http://forum.world.st/file/n2400767/Screen_shot_2010-08-30_at_August_30%2C_2010_5.47.
Hi Eliot,
I cant use those thinks because im not in Smalltalk at the time, im in Java on
the JVM.
(Did someone say 'challenge')
I thought about the store question in the shower this morning and I think it
means
take the top of the stack but dont pop it. Please let me know if Im wrong?
Rgs,
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
This mailing-list is a public space. There are web archives all over the places
and
people can post without been in it. I want to avoid personal emails exchange.
Now what should we run after him? Because the set up is like that no?
Because I'm extrem
This mailing-list is a public space. There are web archives all over the places
and
people can post without been in it. I want to avoid personal emails exchange.
Now what should we run after him? Because the set up is like that no?
Because I'm extremely busy so nobody has the luxury not to be not
2010/8/30 Stéphane Ducasse :
>
> On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:57 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
>
>> Hi Pharoers,
>> I'm happy to read mail from Torsten, Igor and Miguel, thank you guys
>> that's constructive.
>> Andreas expressed his point very well, and i don't think it is
>> hostile, maybe a bit sarcastic
Dave,
It's not obvious to me that Pharo won't take strings, but it looks that way
because Squeak 4.1 has tests on type and by-name methods that are not in Pharo.
One thought I had was to file the class out of Squeak and into Pharo, perhaps
fixing _ vs. := and any other hassles that might arise
Your English does not suck as bad as Squeak's sockets framework :) I'm in too.
I can't do it all, but I can help and I can certainly set a high bar by
ensuring that it works across Linux and Windows and does not lock when the
network hardware loses power. Sockets are sufficiently fundamental
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 02:24:37PM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I recalled seeing mention of the Linux vm's now supporting named ports, and I
> found the code for that, at least in the vm. My understanding gets fuzzy as
> we enter the plugin and primitives. At a minimum, the
Stef,
Where does one go to sign up? I am not certain that Alien is appropriate or
necessary to make a solid socket foundation, but I am certain that the existing
code is very sub-optimal and needs a real jolt. If we are serious about fixing
it (Linux, Windows and Mac), I am serious about help
On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:57 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
> Hi Pharoers,
> I'm happy to read mail from Torsten, Igor and Miguel, thank you guys
> that's constructive.
> Andreas expressed his point very well, and i don't think it is
> hostile, maybe a bit sarcastic or disenchanted, but overall he keeps
My english sucks :P.
It's "How can I help with that?" xD
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
> stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote:
>
>>
>> > Stef, Noury,
>> >
>> > Thanks for doing this, and for the preview!
>> >
>> >
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> > Stef, Noury,
> >
> > Thanks for doing this, and for the preview!
> >
> > Sometimes being a good friend means getting tough, and it's time for
> that. You are doing a great job of writing up how to create poorly designed
> socket appl
> Stef, Noury,
>
> Thanks for doing this, and for the preview!
>
> Sometimes being a good friend means getting tough, and it's time for that.
> You are doing a great job of writing up how to create poorly designed socket
> applications. They are poorly designed because of what we inherit fro
2010/8/30 Stéphane Ducasse :
>
> On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Johan Brichau wrote:
>
>> so what did you do?
>>
>> I see that the file got removed... I will submit a bug issue for that with
>> the file attached.
>>
>> The *real* problem is that you cannot remove it either! It does _not_ want
>> t
Hi Pharoers,
I'm happy to read mail from Torsten, Igor and Miguel, thank you guys
that's constructive.
Andreas expressed his point very well, and i don't think it is
hostile, maybe a bit sarcastic or disenchanted, but overall he keeps
the door opened.
The first thing to do is to cool down, relax an
Stef, Noury,
Thanks for doing this, and for the preview!
Sometimes being a good friend means getting tough, and it's time for that. You
are doing a great job of writing up how to create poorly designed socket
applications. They are poorly designed because of what we inherit from Squeak.
Ser
Maybe the license should be a
required field in Squeaksource for any new project.
Yes! /And/ *default to MIT.* Even though in this case Andreas chose other-than
MIT on purpose, how many projects are not MIT simply because the default is a
choice other than "the one most valuable to the commu
While some of the suggestions (AMQP, STOMP) were over my head, I'm in the
process of getting UbiquiTalk to work and already have rST going.
But, for my use case i.e. sending remote commands between (only) two images
on the same machine, why not just send the commands as strings over a
socket, and
On 30/08/2010 12:06, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Now
- since the license is unclear
- since the license of the contributors is unclear
we will not use it as an infrastructural assets for Pharo. I imagine
that Seaside will not use it either.
We
On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Johan Brichau wrote:
> so what did you do?
>
> I see that the file got removed... I will submit a bug issue for that with
> the file attached.
>
> The *real* problem is that you cannot remove it either! It does _not_ want to
> go away!
Oops! A bad spirit in pha
It happens with WideStrings, you get the normal display with
ByteString instances.
To reproduce just print an expression like "Character value: 1024" if
you can't type non-ascii characters on your keyboard.
Now, why the display changes I don't know either ...
Lukas
On 30 August 2010 20:31, Stép
so what did you do?
I see that the file got removed... I will submit a bug issue for that with the
file attached.
The *real* problem is that you cannot remove it either! It does _not_ want to
go away!
On 30 Aug 2010, at 20:31, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> A while ago I got the same with _
>
thanks henrik
I always learn something :)
I suggest that the people that want and know, group together and build an
open-source one.
>>
>> Why do you have to have your "own" library?
>
> Did I say "pharo library"? reread carefully I said an "open-source one".
>>
A while ago I got the same with _
Stef
On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Johan Brichau wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just last week, I had a very strange phenomenon in my Pharo image: the return
> character (^) was changed by an up arrow (see screenshot below).
> I was not really able to reproduce the 'prob
Hi all,
Just last week, I had a very strange phenomenon in my Pharo image: the return
character (^) was changed by an up arrow (see screenshot below).
I was not really able to reproduce the 'problem' but now we got a repeatable
one:
Just load the attached js file in a Seaside WAFilelibrary (WAF
2010/8/30 Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
> El lun, 30-08-2010 a las 18:25 +0300, Igor Stasenko escribió:
> > My 2 cents about WebClient.
> >
> > - it should be an (un)loadable external package, and i am fully agree
> > with Andreas on this point.
> > It is tempting to integrate it into image, do so
Hello all,
I recalled seeing mention of the Linux vm's now supporting named ports, and I
found the code for that, at least in the vm. My understanding gets fuzzy as we
enter the plugin and primitives. At a minimum, there are a few ByName methods
to be added, and Squeak 4.1 contains open and c
Noury,
I would like a copy.
Bill
bschwab AT anest DOT ufl DOT edu
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[bouraq...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:41 AM
T
12120
-
- Fix for post enh of methodReference (remove timeStamp:. and related).
Sorry for the potential mess.
Stef
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2010/8/30 Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez :
> El lun, 30-08-2010 a las 18:25 +0300, Igor Stasenko escribió:
>> My 2 cents about WebClient.
>>
>> - it should be an (un)loadable external package, and i am fully agree
>> with Andreas on this point.
>> It is tempting to integrate it into image, do some tw
El lun, 30-08-2010 a las 18:25 +0300, Igor Stasenko escribió:
> My 2 cents about WebClient.
>
> - it should be an (un)loadable external package, and i am fully agree
> with Andreas on this point.
> It is tempting to integrate it into image, do some tweaks here and
> there and then ship it within a
El lun, 30-08-2010 a las 13:06 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>> I suggest that the people that want and know, group together and build an
> >>> open-source one.
> >>
> >> Why do you have to have your "own" library?
> >
> > Did I say "pha
*contents := (StandardFileStream fileNamed: 'loop_icon.jpg') contents.
encondedContents := (Base64MimeConverter mimeEncode: contents readStream) .*
That basically gives you the string you have to embed in a method...
Cheers,
Guille
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> >
>
My 2 cents about WebClient.
- it should be an (un)loadable external package, and i am fully agree
with Andreas on this point.
It is tempting to integrate it into image, do some tweaks here and
there and then ship it within a monolitic image.
But then, from maintainer's point of view, it is quite h
Johan Brichau wrote:
I am not a lawyer but as far as I understand this topic, no license
means nobody can use the code at all, which contradicts the fact of
having it in a public repository (and you being perfectly happy of
people using it).
IANAL. "no license" means it's public domain, so *an
On Aug 30, 2010, at 4:45 35PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Ok so I can close the ticket then.
> :)
> Stef
Unless you want it as part of a 1.0 patch, yes.
Cheers,
Henry
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:57:47 -0700 Levente Uzonyi wrote
> I don't like the "magical" #asString, but y
Ok so I can close the ticket then.
:)
Stef
>>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:57:47 -0700 Levente Uzonyi wrote
>>>
I don't like the "magical" #asString, but you should discuss it with
Andreas. Collection >> #ifEmpty: doesn't return nil, but the collection in
the WebClient-Ph
Thanks
It skipped my radar since it is not marked as fixed.
do you want that I add you to the project developers on google so that you can
changed the tag value?
Stef
On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:35 PM, jaayer wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:57:47 -0700 Levente Uzonyi wrote
>
>> I d
On Aug 30, 2010, at 4:00 07PM, Johan Brichau wrote:
>
> On 30 Aug 2010, at 15:35, jaayer wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:57:47 -0700 Levente Uzonyi wrote
>>
>>> I don't like the "magical" #asString, but you should discuss it with
>>> Andreas. Collection >> #ifEmpty: doesn't ret
On 30 Aug 2010, at 15:35, jaayer wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:57:47 -0700 Levente Uzonyi wrote
>
>> I don't like the "magical" #asString, but you should discuss it with
>> Andreas. Collection >> #ifEmpty: doesn't return nil, but the collection in
>> the WebClient-Pharo package (
Hi,
I'm currently working on a chapter about Sockets for the Pharo by example book.
I'm half way, though there is more material than what is on the pharo
collabor-active book.
It's a pitty, that pharo by example and the collaborative book aren't linked.
Any way, I'll be happy ot send what I have
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:57:47 -0700 Levente Uzonyi wrote
>I don't like the "magical" #asString, but you should discuss it with
>Andreas. Collection >> #ifEmpty: doesn't return nil, but the collection in
>the WebClient-Pharo package (and in Squeak), and I think it's better than
>nil
I attached PharoDebug.log
Alexandre
PharoDebug.log
Description: Binary data
On 30 Aug 2010, at 09:12, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> excellent we spent the week-end (or the part allocated to code) chasing it.
> Which image? version
>
> We do not understand why fileIn has a problem when Method
excellent we spent the week-end (or the part allocated to code) chasing it.
Which image? version
We do not understand why fileIn has a problem when MethodReference get a real
timestamp.
Stef
> Hi!
>
> I can't load it. I've got an error: Instances of Timestamp are not indexable
>
> Alexand
>> We do not want a process/system where one single person controls something
>> important.
>>
>> - first it does not scale.
>> - second it is not good for the ecosystem feeling.
>> - third we got burnt in the past (remember 3.9 fonts problems - 3.9 was
>> shipped with bug because
>
>> If you call (re)introducing #squeakToUtf8/#utf8ToSqueak instead of using
>> convertTo/FromEncoding: 'utf8', then yes.
>
> In Squeak these methods avoid the creation of the TextConverter object if the
> receiver is a ByteString, which is usually the case.
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/iss
Hi!
I can't load it. I've got an error: Instances of Timestamp are not indexable
Alexandre
On 29 Aug 2010, at 22:07, Benjamin Van Ryseghem wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> As you may already known, I'm working on a new tool named MethodName which is
> the merge of MethodFinder and MessagesName wi
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
We do not want a process/system where one single person controls something
important.
- first it does not scale.
- second it is not good for the ecosystem feeling.
- third we got burnt in the past (remember 3.9 fonts problems
On Aug 30, 2010, at 1:25 PM, jaayer wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:32:18 -0700 Stéphane Ducasse wrote
>
>> +1
>> So this is ok :)
>> What I would love in my wildest dream is to have magnitude using TComparable
>> :)
>> But this may be too complex.
>> I would like to have
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Henrik Johansen wrote:
On Aug 30, 2010, at 1:06 10PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I suggest that the people that want and know, group together and build an
open-source one.
Why do you have to have your "own" library?
Did I sa
Dear Smalltalkers,
I'd like to remind you that all information about the ESUG conference is
on-line as usual
http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010
you'll there many info including (but not limited to:)
-The conference schedule:
http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2010/SchedulePDF?view=PRDo
We do not want a process/system where one single person controls something
important.
- first it does not scale.
- second it is not good for the ecosystem feeling.
- third we got burnt in the past (remember 3.9 fonts problems - 3.9 was
shipped with bug because
>
> This looks useful; how do you turn an image into a method, though?
Hi!
Have a look at the class side of MenuIcons. There are a bunch of import/export
methods.
Cheers,
Alexandre
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Lukas Renggli wrote:
We want a library where people can participate. Now Pharoers will decide,
I think that we do not have problem
with sharing on WebClient. I can understand that people do not like that
they cannot improve an infrastructure
that they will rely upon. We do n
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:13 AM, j...@anymorphic.com
wrote:
>
> Stéphane Ducasse writes:
> > did you sign the license agreement?
>
> For the License, I send a fax to you, now.
> I pushed the changes used and created by Anymorphic into Pharo-Inbox
> under the Name "Polymorph-Themes-Pro".
>
>
thi
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:41:45 +0200
> From: Tudor Girba
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] this style looks cool
> To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
> Message-ID: <6950297a-3ff9-46b5-9ac5-caa382233...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=
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> Personally, I'd call it forcing Squeakisms on anyone wanting to use
> WebClient, and potentially breaking any number of other packages.
>
> The rest I have no problems with, most are fixes/convenience methods which
> are already in, or should be introduced before Pharo 1.2 (for exampe the
As lukas said we were more in the mood to help people developing software, even
private one.
Now it may turn out that we were too naive... but this is life :)
Stef
On Aug 30, 2010, at 1:12 PM, jaayer wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:35:28 -0700 Stéphane Ducasse wrote
>
>> hi g
thanks
I will check if the inria secretary got it.
Stef
On Aug 30, 2010, at 11:13 AM, j...@anymorphic.com wrote:
>
> Stéphane Ducasse writes:
>> did you sign the license agreement?
>
> For the License, I send a fax to you, now.
> I pushed the changes used and created by Anymorphic into Pharo
Hi,
Many valid things have been said from both sides regarding WebClient.
As far as I understand it, there are 2 possible 'places' where code can reside:
inside Pharo(Core) or outside. The inside code does not have to be compatible
with other Squeak/Smalltalks (apart from maybe ANSI and other s
Before some of us are continue to lament or are too quick in
decisions like removing/forking/reimplementing the web lib or
judging on all this I think it would be wise to wait for a
response from Andreas.
First: his response was directly to Sven (with Pharo in CC)
and please reread what he wrot
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