Re: [Pharo-project] [FYI] Athens tutorial

Alex you can use it for real in roassal For the bootstrap - connection with TextMorph - reimplement all the drawOn: method stef On Apr 7, 2013, at 5:37 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Really cool! > Works well! > > How far are we from bootstrapping? > > Alexandre > > > On Ap

Re: [Pharo-project] [Preview] Branch test coverage analysis tool for Pharo 3.0 :)

I don't know. The main problem is that the AST-interpreter is not fast enough. The best solution for speed would be to improve it as they do in this paper : http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2384587 (their ast-interpreter is faster than a byte code interpreter). Another solution would be to execut

[Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30023

30023 - 10199 Continuation in Pharo https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10199 10210 Small Cleanup for ToolRegistry https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10210 10229 Fix sender of #copyWithTempsFromMethodNode: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10229 10232

Re: [Pharo-project] [FYI] Athens tutorial

NICE ! Excellent tutorial Igor. But i was expecting the tiger at the end…with the song and everything. Fernando On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:07 AM, stephane ducasse wrote: > Alex you can use it for real in roassal > For the bootstrap > - connection with TextMorph > - reimplement all

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

Alexandre, I had the same feeling, when I had to use it starting around 1997 in our company :-) We are now C#'pers, but it is interesting to see, that one item is remembered by all persons in our team from the Smalltalk-epoche in our company in a friendly way: ENVY. This was the item, whic

Re: [Pharo-project] [FYI] Athens tutorial

Igor Stasenko wrote > i prepared a small tutorial for Athens, which i did today at PharoConf. > But the code i did can be reused by non-participants of conference :) > > Any feedback & help & contributions & improvements is welcome. Very Cool, thank you! -- View this message in context: http:

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

yep, because NOController is a derivative. anyway... NOController needs improvement in his finding algorithm, I'm think :S Esteban On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:20 AM, "Sean P. DeNigris" wrote: > Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote >> What is the difference between NECController and NOCController ? >> In my

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 3.0] #30023

Marcus we should rename continuation so and put a prefix so that seaside code loads nicely. That way they can migrate when they want. Stef On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > 30023 > - > > > > 10199 Continuation in Pharo > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/1

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

Ocompletion proposes the selector based on your current coding and this is really cool. ECompletion is just based on selector matching. On Apr 7, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Benjamin wrote: > One is proposing all the symbols (without package names, timestamp and few > others) alphabetically sorted, the

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

On Apr 6, 2013, at 11:44 PM, Benjamin wrote: > If everybody likes it, maybe we should consider putting this configuration as > default, no ? yes but first I would like to see the difference because I do not like it :) > Ben > > On Apr 6, 2013, at 8:59 PM, "Sean P. DeNigris" wrote: > >> s

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

I still think useEnterToAccept has to be true I sustain the idea of lower the entry level for the newcomers, instead supporting as default the use-workflow of power users (they have a settings browser there). We took this decision last year and I think it was a good one... not that we cannot ch

Re: [Pharo-project] Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

agreed Can you open a ticket? Stef On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > stephane ducasse wrote >> I would love to get the source code modification (diff) on update so that >> I can read the code without cliking to all the links in the update mail. > > Yes! It'd also be great i

[Pharo-project] get.pharo.org is unreachable

Hi, Just in case you did not see it, it seems that http://get.pharo.org is unreachable at the moment. Is anyone looking into this? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Being happy is a matter of choice."

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org is unreachable

yes I noticed it this morning. it is "only" a problem of the lookup, the fileserver works normally: http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/ci On 2013-04-07, at 13:17, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Just in case you did not see it, it seems that http://get.pharo.org is > unreachable at the moment. Is anyo

Re: [Pharo-project] Debugger use case - variable reference from Glamour Inspector

I thought about the issue of directly referencing inspected objects from somewhere else as well. I would simply imagine that you can drag and drop a reference into the sources and it will work there as a normal global variable (essentially what you do). However that needs still quite some other in

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

Hi. And what you think about OOSCM which was presented at last ESUG(and maybe at 2010 too)? Does Pharo wants such kind of technology?

[Pharo-project] How to get access to FogBugs Pharo tracker?

Hello. Can I get access to new issue tracket? Best regards, Denis

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get access to FogBugs Pharo tracker?

Hi Denis, http://bugs.pharo.org then you should be able to register by yourself :) Esteban On Apr 7, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > Hello. > > Can I get access to new issue tracket? > > Best regards, > Denis

Re: [Pharo-project] Resuming Issue Tracker Mailing List

http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/7602 should work (for this particular one, there is a bug in penelope preventing it to be displayed) But otherwise, you can always refer a bug by http://bugs.pharo.org/issues/id/#{bug_id} With Camillo we want also to add in fogbugz a "public link" button :) Ben

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

Sounds like a good classroom assignment for a class incorporating Usability Testing :) Esteban Lorenzano wrote: I still think useEnterToAccept has to be true I sustain the idea of lower the entry level for the newcomers, instead supporting as default the use-workflow of power users (they have a

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get access to FogBugs Pharo tracker?

Thank's. I did not see that. When I click on bug report from mails I have login request without any register button and any description how to register. Now I have account. 2013/4/7 Esteban Lorenzano > Hi Denis, > > http://bugs.pharo.org > > then you should be able to register by yourself :)

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

oh... I taught smalltalk for 3 years, using Pharo every lesson. During those years, I didn't met any single student that didn't tried to press enter the first N times to get a completion. And every time the student complained, until I repeated (often several times) that they should use tab ins

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

Experienced that too ( a lot ) Ben On Apr 7, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > oh... I taught smalltalk for 3 years, using Pharo every lesson. > > During those years, I didn't met any single student that didn't tried to > press enter the first N times to get a completion. > And e

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

2013/4/7 Benjamin : > Experienced that too ( a lot ) Me too. I have other comments regarding "first use experiences" of smalltalkers and non-smalltalkers. Once I contribute something, I'll make them public. :-) Regards! Esteban

Re: [Pharo-project] Collect all references to AnObsoleteFoo

I'd say that handling obsolete reference this way is very good! I'd put this behavior in Fuel! Cheers, R On Apr 6, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Martin, should be manage obsolete always that way (meaning to put such > behavior directly inside Fuel)? > If not, could be write

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: 2013/4/7 Benjamin : Experienced that too ( a lot ) Me too. I have other comments regarding "first use experiences" of smalltalkers and non-smalltalkers. Once I contribute something, I'll make them public. :-) Regards! Esteban That would be interesti

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org is unreachable

On Apr 7, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > Just in case you did not see it, it seems that http://get.pharo.org is > unreachable at the moment. Is anyone looking into this? > Seems to work again… strange, but the good thing is that starting next week it will point directly to a

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

This is not a question of wanting or not. The key question is - does it scale - do we have the manpower to maintain it - is it key for the future Stef > Hi. > > And what you think about OOSCM which was presented at last ESUG (and maybe at > 2010 too)? > > Does Pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] How to define a ConfigurationOf with a #development version that depends on a baseline?

I also worked with Envy for more than 10 years and after getting used to it (which took a certain time), it was the stable base for my daily work. Now I am learning to work with metacello/monticello. I find myself regularly thinking "hm, in Envy it was ...". I think that taking some of the pri

Re: [Pharo-project] Screencast: Creating C library bindings with TalkFFI for libgit2

Wow! This is embarrassing! I just noticed that the video on Vimeo is the wrong one (no wonder you kept talking about a premature ending…)! I'm replacing it right now. Sorry for that. Max On 06.04.2013, at 23:38, Max Leske wrote: > > On 06.04.2013, at 23:09, Ciprian Teodorov wrote: > >> H

Re: [Pharo-project] Screencast: Creating C library bindings with TalkFFI for libgit2

Hi Max, I've just integrated some of my latest changes into a new version 1.4 of TalkFFI. Amongst others it prints clang erros in the transcript. On my libgit2 checkout there are some compilation errors. I've moved the development version to this one, so if you want to try it just do the typical:

Re: [Pharo-project] Screencast: Creating C library bindings with TalkFFI for libgit2

On 07.04.2013, at 18:28, Ciprian Teodorov wrote: > Hi Max, > > I've just integrated some of my latest changes into a new version 1.4 of > TalkFFI. Amongst others it prints clang erros in the transcript. > On my libgit2 checkout there are some compilation errors. I accidentally loaded your new

Re: [Pharo-project] Screencast: Creating C library bindings with TalkFFI for libgit2

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Max Leske wrote: > > On 07.04.2013, at 18:28, Ciprian Teodorov > wrote: > > Hi Max, > > I've just integrated some of my latest changes into a new version 1.4 of > TalkFFI. Amongst others it prints clang erros in the transcript. > On my libgit2 checkout there are s

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

I'm fine with the fact that Pharo decides to put that as a default (because I can change it). But the preferences are fundamentally flawed: if I disable useEnterToAccept then I cannot even use instead. I should also disable the as the completion of common prefixes. The change I attached to my

Re: [Pharo-project] Screencast: Creating C library bindings with TalkFFI for libgit2

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Ciprian Teodorov wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Max Leske wrote: > >> >> On 07.04.2013, at 18:28, Ciprian Teodorov >> wrote: >> >> Hi Max, >> >> I've just integrated some of my latest changes into a new version 1.4 of >> TalkFFI. Amongst others it

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo VM packages and PPA for Ubuntu

Dear Pharo and Ubuntu users, Nicolas Petton and I are proud to announce Ubuntu packages for the Pharo VM. Installing the pharo vm is now just a matter of: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cassou/pharo sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install pharo-vm With this package, you get: - the latest pharo vm

Re: [Pharo-project] get.pharo.org is unreachable

Thanks. Doru On Apr 7, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Just in case you did not see it, it seems that http://get.pharo.org is >> unreachable at the moment. Is anyone looking into this? >> > Seems to work again… stra

Re: [Pharo-project] Screencast: Creating C library bindings with TalkFFI for libgit2

The replacement video is up now (vimeo.com/maxleske/talkffibindings). On 07.04.2013, at 20:48, Ciprian Teodorov wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Ciprian Teodorov > wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Max Leske wrote: > > On 07.04.2013, at 18:28, Ciprian Teodor

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo VM packages and PPA for Ubuntu

That's great! I think providing packages for LTS versions of ubuntu would be good. Norbert Am 07.04.2013 um 21:12 schrieb Damien Cassou : > Dear Pharo and Ubuntu users, > > Nicolas Petton and I are proud to announce Ubuntu packages for the > Pharo VM. Installing the pharo vm is now just a matt

Re: [Pharo-project] Screencast: Creating C library bindings with TalkFFI for libgit2

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Max Leske wrote: > The replacement video is up now (vimeo.com/maxleske/talkffibindings). > > > On 07.04.2013, at 20:48, Ciprian Teodorov > wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Ciprian Teodorov < > ciprian.teodo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sun

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 10219: Completion: enter on accept awkwardness

I agree. :) On Apr 7, 2013, at 8:30 PM, Johan Brichau wrote: > I'm fine with the fact that Pharo decides to put that as a default (because I > can change it). > > But the preferences are fundamentally flawed: if I disable useEnterToAccept > then I cannot even use instead. > I should also dis

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo VM packages and PPA for Ubuntu

Thanks for your effort! We should blog it :) Stef On Apr 7, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: > Dear Pharo and Ubuntu users, > > Nicolas Petton and I are proud to announce Ubuntu packages for the > Pharo VM. Installing the pharo vm is now just a matter of: > > sudo add-apt-repository pp

Re: [Pharo-project] Screencast: Creating C library bindings with TalkFFI for libgit2

I'm not sure but this might be a VM problem. I found a segmentation fault (funny enough the VM didn't quit). I attached the crash report (cc'ing Esteban, maybe he knows what this is about).Max crash.dmp Description: Binary data On 07.04.2013, at 21:31, Ciprian Teodorov

[Pharo-project] State of PharoConf videos

Hi, I'm very happy to see that the initiative to make video recordings of the PharoConf and MooseDay has resulted in so many screencasts already published. Great work! And now the first feedback: - Format conversion: 62 of 72 GB done, processing the whole weekend. - First 13 minute part currentl

Re: [Pharo-project] State of PharoConf videos

Reposting with link instead of attachment: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6hdkcbsflt7somh/Fuel%20demo.pdf > Thanks for the effort Stephan! > > I attached my presentation. > > Cheers, > Max > > > > On 07.04.2013, at 22:34, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm very happy to see that the i

Re: [Pharo-project] LibGit2 bindings with TalkFFI (was: Screencast: Creating C library bindings with TalkFFI for libgit2)

BTW: I see two errors from parsing: missing stddef.h and some problem with one header file. stddef.h is present on the system and since I built libgit2 myself I know there were no errors during the build. I attached the Transcript output. /git2.h loaded with: /usr/include/time.h:38:11: fat

[Pharo-project] First 13 minutes of PharoConf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwc84HSkO1w More to come... Stephan