Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-29 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 29.02.2012 um 09:10 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: > Norbert, > > On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:30, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> The only limit that I tested is a maximum of threads of 1100 or 1400, can't >> remember right now. The image is stuck then. > > I know we are way off topic, but are you sur

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-29 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > On 28/02/12 4:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> If I understand you correctly, then what you are talking about is not >> caching objects but rather lazy loading. You mean when Glorp lets some >> proxies of the loaded graph so that the

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-29 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Norbert, On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:30, Norbert Hartl wrote: > The only limit that I tested is a maximum of threads of 1100 or 1400, can't > remember right now. The image is stuck then. I know we are way off topic, but are you sure you were not running into some OS limit (max open files/sockets whi

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 28/02/12 4:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: If I understand you correctly, then what you are talking about is not caching objects but rather lazy loading. You mean when Glorp lets some proxies of the loaded graph so that they can load the rest of the graph later on? Okay, the concept I m

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 28/02/12 6:20 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: Uh, sorry for getting _slightly_ verbose and off-topic :) Thanks for the informative answer. It's good to learn how others tackle problems, and why they chose their solution.

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 28.02.2012 um 22:09 schrieb Yanni Chiu: > On 28/02/12 3:30 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >> I'm sorry that's all. I just started to do deployments with pharo >> lately. I was doing everything in gemstone until 2 month ago. > > That's interesting. Have you moved everything to Pharo, or is some

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > On 28/02/12 2:48 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> Yes, object caching is NOT a problem itself, it is a feature of Glorp or >> whatever. If what you use (like Fuel) is slow, then it may require some >> tunning. It can be caching object o

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 28/02/12 3:30 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: I'm sorry that's all. I just started to do deployments with pharo lately. I was doing everything in gemstone until 2 month ago. That's interesting. Have you moved everything to Pharo, or is some part still in GemStone? Can you outline why GemStone was

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:30, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Am 28.02.2012 um 20:35 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: > >> Norbert, >> >> On 28 Feb 2012, at 17:32, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> I experience image corruption with big images. >> >> I am assuming you are using a normal image on a 32-bit Cog VM o

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 28/02/12 2:48 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Yes, object caching is NOT a problem itself, it is a feature of Glorp or whatever. If what you use (like Fuel) is slow, then it may require some tunning. It can be caching object or not. What I suggest is that you stress your system with big data

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 28.02.2012 um 20:35 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: > Norbert, > > On 28 Feb 2012, at 17:32, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> I experience image corruption with big images. > > I am assuming you are using a normal image on a 32-bit Cog VM on Linux ? > yes > I am very interested in the practical l

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Yanni Chiu wrote: > On 28/02/12 11:03 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> >> I first used image persistence but the image grow to large. Then I added >> fuel as journal to be written before image save in order to be able to >> recover from an emergency. >> Now we redo t

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Norbert, On 28 Feb 2012, at 17:32, Norbert Hartl wrote: > I experience image corruption with big images. I am assuming you are using a normal image on a 32-bit Cog VM on Linux ? I am very interested in the practical limits on image size (not necessarily saving it). What vm switches did you ap

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 28.02.2012 um 19:15 schrieb Yanni Chiu: > On 28/02/12 11:03 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >> I first used image persistence but the image grow to large. Then I added >> fuel as journal to be written before image save in order to be able to >> recover from an emergency. >> Now we redo the persis

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 28/02/12 11:03 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: I first used image persistence but the image grow to large. Then I added fuel as journal to be written before image save in order to be able to recover from an emergency. Now we redo the persistence part. An account object graph is dissected into config

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 28.02.2012 um 17:23 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Am 28.02.2012 um 16:41 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: > >> Of course, not the fuel you use to go to work every day ;) I am talking >> about Fuel serializer. >> In particula

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 28 Feb 2012, at 17:03, Norbert Hartl wrote: > Am 28.02.2012 um 16:41 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: > >> Of course, not the fuel you use to go to work every day ;) I am talking >> about Fuel serializer. >> In particular, I wonder if our page deserves an update: >> rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/p

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Am 28.02.2012 um 16:41 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: > > Of course, not the fuel you use to go to work every day ;) I am talking > about Fuel serializer. > In particular, I wonder if our page deserves an update: > rmod.lille.inria.fr/web

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Who is using Fuel?

2012-02-28 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 28.02.2012 um 16:41 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: > Of course, not the fuel you use to go to work every day ;) I am talking > about Fuel serializer. > In particular, I wonder if our page deserves an update: > rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel/Software-using-Fuel > > Let me know i