[Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Camillo Bruni
With the recent announcement of google code to shut down their public API I see a major functionality gone for our project. https://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/IssueTrackerAPI I would like to extend the functionality of our monkey, so it will become more intelligent: - give co

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Frank Shearar
On 8 February 2013 19:51, Camillo Bruni wrote: > With the recent announcement of google code to shut down their public API I > see > a major functionality gone for our project. > > https://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/IssueTrackerAPI > > I would like to extend the functionality of our m

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
I would go for GitHub, its exposition is really good for the project. But if file attachments (other than pictures) is a showstopper, then... I would suggest: * Mantis (PHP Based, but with a SOAP API) http://mantisbt.org/ We've been using it in our company since 7 years ago, and it has proven to b

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-02-08, at 21:19, Frank Shearar wrote: > On 8 February 2013 19:51, Camillo Bruni wrote: >> With the recent announcement of google code to shut down their public API I >> see >> a major functionality gone for our project. >> >>https://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/IssueTrackerA

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-02-08, at 21:23, "Esteban A. Maringolo" wrote: > I would go for GitHub, its exposition is really good for the project. > But if file attachments (other than pictures) is a showstopper, then... it is a show-stopper for now. A future development cycle might solve this, but I don't want to

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2013-02-08, at 21:23, "Esteban A. Maringolo" wrote: > >> I would go for GitHub, its exposition is really good for the project. >> But if file attachments (other than pictures) is a showstopper, then... > > it is a show-stopper for now. A

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
(regarding Mantis) 2013/2/8 Stéphane Ducasse : > we used it for squeak and I never liked it. It is ugly as it gets, I don't like its appearance either. I won't argue on that :) But it is reliable, flexible and full of features. We talked about migrating to JIRA, but we have ~12000 issues tracke

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-02-08, at 21:58, "Esteban A. Maringolo" wrote: > (regarding Mantis) > > 2013/2/8 Stéphane Ducasse : >> we used it for squeak and I never liked it. > > It is ugly as it gets, I don't like its appearance either. I won't > argue on that :) > > But it is reliable, flexible and full of fea

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Benjamin Pollack
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013, at 04:04 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2013-02-08, at 21:58, "Esteban A. Maringolo" > wrote: > > > (regarding Mantis) > > > > 2013/2/8 Stéphane Ducasse : > >> we used it for squeak and I never liked it. > > > > It is ugly as it gets, I don't like its appearance either. I

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-02-08, at 22:10, Benjamin Pollack wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013, at 04:04 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >> >> On 2013-02-08, at 21:58, "Esteban A. Maringolo" >> wrote: >> >>> (regarding Mantis) >>> >>> 2013/2/8 Stéphane Ducasse : we used it for squeak and I never liked it. >>> >>> It

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Marcus Denker
On Feb 8, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > (regarding Mantis) > > 2013/2/8 Stéphane Ducasse : >> we used it for squeak and I never liked it. > > It is ugly as it gets, I don't like its appearance either. I won't > argue on that :) > > But it is reliable, flexible and full of f

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo > wrote: > > > (regarding Mantis) > > > > 2013/2/8 Stéphane Ducasse : > >> we used it for squeak and I never liked it. > > > > It is ugly as it gets, I don't like its appearance either. I wo

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-02-08, at 23:30, Eliot Miranda wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Feb 8, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo >> wrote: >> >>> (regarding Mantis) >>> >>> 2013/2/8 Stéphane Ducasse : we used it for squeak and I never liked it. >>> >>> It

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Marcus Denker
On Feb 8, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Benjamin Pollack wrote: > > > Fog Creek would be happy to provide all of you with a free FogBugz On > Demand account. It has a good API, it has file attachments, it has > custom workflows, triggers, and plugins, and we're about to release a > version that's Gmail-l

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Marcus Denker
On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >>> >> >> That's not a valid comparison. In Squeak trunk bugs are getting fixed at a >> much higher rate Are you sure? The list that Craig showed at Fosdem was rather short. Marcus

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > >>> > >> > >> That's not a valid comparison. In Squeak trunk bugs are getting fixed > at a > >> much higher rate > > Are you sure? The list that Craig showed at Fosdem was rather short.

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Frank Shearar
On 8 February 2013 22:41, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > >>> >>> That's not a valid comparison. In Squeak trunk bugs are getting fixed at a >>> much higher rate > > Are you sure? The list that Craig showed at Fosdem was rather short. Well, obvi

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Marcus Denker
On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: > On 8 February 2013 22:41, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >> On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >> > That's not a valid comparison. In Squeak trunk bugs are getting fixed at a much higher rate >> >> Are you sur

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 08 Feb 2013, at 22:10, Benjamin Pollack wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013, at 04:04 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >> >> On 2013-02-08, at 21:58, "Esteban A. Maringolo" >> wrote: >> >>> (regarding Mantis) >>> >>> 2013/2/8 Stéphane Ducasse : we used it for squeak and I never liked it. >>> >>> I

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Frank Shearar
On 8 February 2013 22:51, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: > >> On 8 February 2013 22:41, Marcus Denker wrote: >>> >>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >>> >> > > That's not a valid comparison. In Squeak trunk bugs are gett

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Marcus Denker
On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >> Fog Creek would be happy to provide all of you with a free FogBugz On >> Demand account. It has a good API, it has file attachments, it has >> custom workflows, triggers, and plugins, and we're about to release a >> version that's

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Marcus Denker
On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Frank Shearar wrote: > On 8 February 2013 22:51, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >> On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: >> >>> On 8 February 2013 22:41, Marcus Denker wrote: On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:34 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >>> >

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Benjamin
I wanna play too :) Ben On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:05 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>> Fog Creek would be happy to provide all of you with a free FogBugz On >>> Demand account. It has a good API, it has file attachments, it has >>> cu

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Camillo Bruni
in you are... ;) On 2013-02-09, at 00:12, Benjamin wrote: > I wanna play too :) > > Ben > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:05 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: Fog Creek would be happy to provide all of you with a free FogBugz On >

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Benjamin Pollack
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013, at 06:14 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > in you are... ;) > > On 2013-02-09, at 00:12, Benjamin > wrote: > > > I wanna play too :) > > > > Ben > > > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:05 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > >> > >> On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-02-09, at 00:24, Benjamin Pollack wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013, at 06:14 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >> in you are... ;) >> >> On 2013-02-09, at 00:12, Benjamin >> wrote: >> >>> I wanna play too :) >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:05 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: >>> O

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Benjamin
I think we can all say a big thank you :) Ben On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:27 AM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2013-02-09, at 00:24, Benjamin Pollack wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013, at 06:14 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >>> in you are... ;) >>> >>> On 2013-02-09, at 00:12, Benjamin >>> wrote: >>> >>

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Frank Shearar > wrote: > > > On 8 February 2013 22:51, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> > >> On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Frank Shearar > wrote: > >> > >>> On 8 February 2013 22:41, Marcus Denker > wrote: > > >

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Benjamin
On Feb 9, 2013, at 1:06 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Frank Shearar wrote: > > > On 8 February 2013 22:51, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> > >> On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: > >> > >>> On

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Ben, please include the squeak list in this discussion It's clearly relevant to the whole community. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Benjamin < benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Feb 9, 2013, at 1:06 AM, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Marcu

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Craig Latta
Hi-- Eliot writes: > That's not a valid comparison. In Squeak trunk bugs are getting > fixed at a much higher rate Marcus responds: > Are you sure? The list that Craig showed at Fosdem was rather short. Hey, I only showed the usual short list of highlights from the Squeak 4.4

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Marcus Denker
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Frank Shearar wrote: > > Well, obviously Squeak is a rather smaller community, so that's hardly > surprising. > What is cause and what is effect? -- Marcus Denker -- den...@acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-08 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote > I think we can all say a big thank you :) Yes, thank you for this amazing gift :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/New-Issue-Tracker-tp4668700p4668799.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-09 Thread Frank Shearar
On 9 February 2013 00:40, Marcus Denker wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Frank Shearar > wrote: > >> >> Well, obviously Squeak is a rather smaller community, so that's hardly >> surprising. >> > > What is cause and what is effect? I'm not going to dig up old history. It's clearly painf

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-09 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks a lot ben. I'm busy migrating on 10.7 to 10.8 on a new machine and bumping into well…. glitches :) I will sync with the team monday. Stef On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:24 AM, Benjamin Pollack wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013, at 06:14 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: >> in you are... ;) >> >> On 2013-02-0

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-09 Thread Gastón Dall' Oglio
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Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-09 Thread Gastón Dall' Oglio
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Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-11 Thread Benjamin Pollack
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013, at 12:47 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: > thanks a lot ben. > I'm busy migrating on 10.7 to 10.8 on a new machine and bumping into > well…. glitches :) > I will sync with the team monday. Good timing! The FogBugz team rolled pharo.fogbugz.com over to the beta this morning. Each

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-11 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Is there a way to have public access to issues? I mean, read only access to see the backlog of issues, what's being done, etc. With FogBugz all I see at pharo.fogbugz.com is a login page, whilst with Google Issue Tracking I was able to see the milestones, etc. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 201

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-11 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-02-11, at 16:47, Benjamin Pollack wrote: > On Sat, Feb 9, 2013, at 12:47 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: >> thanks a lot ben. >> I'm busy migrating on 10.7 to 10.8 on a new machine and bumping into >> well…. glitches :) >> I will sync with the team monday. > > Good timing! The FogBugz team

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-11 Thread Marcus Denker
On Feb 11, 2013, at 8:21 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2013-02-11, at 16:47, Benjamin Pollack wrote: > >> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013, at 12:47 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: >>> thanks a lot ben. >>> I'm busy migrating on 10.7 to 10.8 on a new machine and bumping into >>> well…. glitches :) >>> I wil

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-11 Thread Marcus Denker
On Feb 11, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > Is there a way to have public access to issues? > I mean, read only access to see the backlog of issues, what's being done, etc. > > With FogBugz all I see at pharo.fogbugz.com is a login page, whilst > with Google Issue Tracking I was

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-12 Thread Camillo Bruni
After a discussion with Christophe which is in favor of JIRA ;) we decided to put a wiki page online where we should list all the requirements (not just the ones I think are important :P) https://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/NewIssueTracker

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-12 Thread Nicolas Petton
I really don't like JIRA, I find it bloated, and I always lose myself there. IMHO FogBugs seems *a lot* nicer to use. Nico Camillo Bruni writes: > After a discussion with Christophe which is in favor of JIRA ;) we decided to > put a > wiki page online where we should list all the requirements

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-19 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hi all, I quickly developed a basic importer (Google code => Jira) so that everyone can play a bit with real data. There is still a lot of missing stuff that we can import (ex: labels, author) but I will only do that once we agree on the new bugtracker to choose. So, we have a free Jira instan

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-20 Thread stephane ducasse
thanks christophe :) For me this would be ok. Is there an API for scripting it? Stef > Hi all, > > I quickly developed a basic importer (Google code => Jira) so that everyone > can play a bit with real data. > There is still a lot of missing stuff that we can import (ex: labels, author) > but

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-20 Thread Benjamin
On Feb 20, 2013, at 8:16 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: > thanks christophe :) > For me this would be ok. I still have a preference for fogbugz :) > Is there an API for scripting it? There is one but not yet implemented in Pharo :) (contrary to FogBugz ^^) We ask people from the mailing to expr

Re: [Pharo-project] New Issue Tracker

2013-02-20 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Fogbugz is cool and for sure more fully featured. But I do meet Jira more often in the field (about 80% of my clients use that thing for better or worse). But if we talk about such things, then let's have a look at Fossil. At least, it is FOSS software. Phil 2013/2/20 Benjamin : > On Feb 20, 2

[Pharo-project] New issue tracker statuses

2013-03-30 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
I'm unclear about how to change issue statuses in certain cases. For example, https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?10178 has been integrated, but it's still listed as "Fix to include". However, when I click "edit" there doesn't seem to be a drop-down to change the status, and if I "reopen", I only

Re: [Pharo-project] New issue tracker statuses

2013-03-30 Thread Benjamin
Because the current status is Fix To Include, but the current state is Closed Basically you have 3 states (open, resolved, closed) And when you go from Resolved to CLosed, the status is kept Ben On Mar 30, 2013, at 10:16 PM, "Sean P. DeNigris" wrote: > I'm unclear about how to change issue stat

Re: [Pharo-project] New issue tracker statuses

2013-03-31 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote > And when you go from Resolved to CLosed, the status is kept Okay, so we have to mark as integrated before closing, and if not, it has to be reopened, then resolved, then marked integrated, and then closed again :) - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in contex

Re: [Pharo-project] New issue tracker statuses

2013-03-31 Thread Benjamin
the thing is that we use to mix two steps in one with the previous issue tracker. The workflow is: work needed (open) -> review needed (resolved) -> fix to include (resolved) -> integrated (resolved) and here and only here, once it's integrated, you can close the issue :) Ben On Mar 31, 2013