Am 25.04.2014 um 06:51 schrieb Joachim Tuchel jtuc...@objektfabrik.de:
Hi,
We're using Glorp on VA ST for kontolino.de. It is an active project in the
sense of somebody is taking care of bugs. The lead developer(s) work(s) for
Cincom - and Cincom uses Glorp as supported component of
Norbert,
you are right, I should have given an example of what I mean.
So here is one:
If you serialize an object graph to, say, json and store it in a NoSQL
DB, you need to decide how deep you serialize your graph into one
djson document and how to build up segments of your graph that need
Joachim,
thanks for your explanation. I appreciate that. I was thinking if it is a good
idea to write my mail. Usually this ends in a holy war which I don’t want.
Comments inline.
Am 25.04.2014 um 09:02 schrieb jtuc...@objektfabrik.de:
Norbert,
you are right, I should have given an
Hi kilon,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:32 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote:
Well I tried, several times , but I am not happy with the end result. In any
case I am finished with this and since I promised to upload it here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol5ivaEATLQ
I love it,
On 25 Apr 2014, at 10:35, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi kilon,
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:32 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote:
Well I tried, several times , but I am not happy with the end result. In any
case I am finished with this and since I promised to
Hi Norbert,
I am way too old for holy wars ;-)
So in essence, we are both saying that hammering objects into either an
SQL or NoSQL database can be hard and both approaches have negative
drawbacks as well as plusses.
I didn't come up with Transactions because they also can make things
hard.
On 25 Apr 2014, at 10:58, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote:
Hi Norbert,
I am way too old for holy wars ;-)
So in essence, we are both saying that hammering objects into either an SQL
or NoSQL database can be hard and both approaches have negative drawbacks as
well as plusses.
I didn't
Joachim,
Am 25.04.2014 um 10:58 schrieb jtuc...@objektfabrik.de:
Hi Norbert,
I am way too old for holy wars ;-)
So in essence, we are both saying that hammering objects into either an SQL
or NoSQL database can be hard and both approaches have negative drawbacks as
well as plusses.
Slightly off topic but on the other hand it fits perfectly into the
discussion: IMHO a very enlightening podcast about RDBMS, NoSQL, NewSQL
databases from one of the old database gurus Michael Stonebraker
(http://www.se-radio.net/2013/12/episode-199-michael-stonebraker/).
Franz Josef
Am
Interesting discussion.
I'm on the verge of NoSQL databases, I prototyped a system with Voyage
but didn't feel confident enough as to continue with it to a
production system.
One of the things that held me back was the lack of tooling[*] and how
hard would it be to change something from outside
2014-04-25 6:30 GMT-03:00 Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name:
MongoDB is good at indexing geo
spatial stuff. So mongo + voyage is a good fit for this. I need to do
explicit commits and have to do additional house keeping both of them you
don’t need to do in GemStone. But I get the indexing
Seems like Couchbase got SQL for its documents, with joins and many
other nice features:
http://blog.couchbase.com/n1ql-it-makes-cents
I followed the online tutorial and it is pretty impressive.
Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-04-25 10:39 GMT-03:00 Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com:
Here is another nice opinion:
http://use-the-index-luke.com/blog/2013-04/whats-left-of-nosql
On 25 Apr 2014, at 11:52, Franz Josef Konrad fra...@fjkonrad.de wrote:
Slightly off topic but on the other hand it fits perfectly into the
discussion: IMHO a very enlightening podcast about RDBMS,
2014-04-25 17:00 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu:
Here is another nice opinion:
http://use-the-index-luke.com/blog/2013-04/whats-left-of-nosql
Very interesting article Sven.
How many companies really need to cope with data at the scale of
Google, Facebook or Twitter?
On 25 Apr 2014, at 22:20, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote:
So coming back to Pharo realm, this is why I think ORM is really
important for us, and I'm really happy this discussion finally took
place.
But one of his points was that ORM layers made SQL obsolete by hiding much of
2014-04-25 17:44 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu:
On 25 Apr 2014, at 22:20, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote:
So coming back to Pharo realm, this is why I think ORM is really
important for us, and I'm really happy this discussion finally took
place.
But one of
Thank you Damien and Marcus . I was worried about my English, I am glad you
find it easy to understand.
Just added How to install Pharo, following the suggestion of Esteban
tried to keep it short so its 4 minutes. More are coming, I think I can do
a 4 minute video per day. I have created my own
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