Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Rather than view my posts as accusatory, you should view them as trying to steer the collective thinking of a large group toward a more promising direction...which is exactly what they are. My analysis of the situation is objective, *not defamatory*. I see what's wrong with the status quo and I loo

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

> On Dec 12, 2015, at 18:45, horrido wrote: > > Yes, the mentality of Pharo has not escaped my attention. > > This mentality says that "if you build it, they will come." Keep improving > the platform and eventually people will find it. **Or not.** You don't > really care. (As an aside, **how**

[Pharo-users] NSGA II Genetic algorithm in SmallTalk/Pharo

Hi, Is there an implementation in Smalltalk/Pharo of the multiObjectives Genetic Algorithm NSGAII?I beleive Gustavo implemented a sort of multiobjective genetic algorithm but I am not sure it was NSGAII. Thanks in advance. Abdelghani

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

On 12-12-15 22:45, horrido wrote: Yes, the mentality of Pharo has not escaped my attention. ... Why would you want to limit the breadth of applicability of a programming language? Especially one that purports to be **general purpose**. Oh please, can you stop this nonsense? If you want to l

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Yes, the mentality of Pharo has not escaped my attention. This mentality says that "if you build it, they will come." Keep improving the platform and eventually people will find it. **Or not.** You don't really care. (As an aside, **how** will they find it???) This mentality sequesters Pharo wit

[Pharo-users] auch ne Kalkulationsgrundlage ...

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Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Well if you want to work on redline and improve it , none will stop you, its a free... software... afterall ;) Simply complaining about things wont change much if anything. Frankly If I ever wanted to use Java libraries for any reason , I would not give up on Pharo just to use another pharo imple

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

I looked at JNIPort. It's **very** limited in its capabilities. "Improving" it may be an insurmountable task. Redline's approach was very attractive. Relatively clean and elegant, and quite capable. It's a pity James Ladd couldn't get back to the project. -- View this message in context: http:

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 8:41 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > Java cannot do become:, so, that's not going to be a "real" smalltalk. > > I do work w/ Java & Scala on a project. > > First, JAR hell -> productivity killer > > Second, lots of infrastructure needed: IDE, Maven, Artifactory, ... -> > an

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Looks like there is Pharo engineer position that will take care of ARM. On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Antonio J. Arrieta Cuartero < ajac...@yahoo.es> wrote: > Hello > > The question isn't how to implement Pharo in JVM. I know Java programmers > will never use Pharo as I probably will never u

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Java cannot do become:, so, that's not going to be a "real" smalltalk. I do work w/ Java & Scala on a project. First, JAR hell -> productivity killer Second, lots of infrastructure needed: IDE, Maven, Artifactory, ... -> another productivity killer Long story short: prototype the thing in Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] seeking your tutorials

ok, thank! May be is SquareBracketAssociates/Magritte :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/seeking-your-tutorials-tp4866274p4866729.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Pharo can already run on iOS and Raspberry PI and works well. On Android its still a work in progress but its improving On web you can already can use pharo for both the backend (server) and front end (browser-javascript-html-css) So Pharo has already spread on all major platforms , with the exc

Re: [Pharo-users] seeking your tutorials

check on github squarebracket / magritte Le 11/12/15 22:24, garduino a écrit : stepharo wrote I have the magritte tutorial and we are writing a web tutorial covering Mongo and Seaside. Does exist a new Magritte tutorial? Where? Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://forum.worl

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Hello The question isn't how to implement Pharo in JVM. I know Java programmers will never use Pharo as I probably will never use Java. The question is to spread Pharo all over the platforms. And the more extended platform all over the world are IOS and Android. The advantage is to have Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

On 12-12-15 02:53, EuanM wrote: It's especially important to strategically, it is vital to get Smalltalk/Pharo to tap into the Java ecosystem if Java itself gets deprecated by Oracle. Everyone who has a lot of enterprise Java code will need something that works on the JVM and will easily interop

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

At Redmonk , Scala is a top 20 language (position #14). It's a widely used language, too, though not in the same league as Java nor Python. Even Clojure and Groovy are in the top 20. Scala is much, much more popular and widely used

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoJVM

Of course the one thing that you fail to mention is that no JVM based languages (including Scala) can be called a popular language since they dont even make the top 20. I have personal experience with Python , Jpython is a port to JVM and not only that JPython is special in a way that not only can