Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-09 Thread Christophe Demarey
> Le 7 oct. 2017 à 14:26, Ben Coman a écrit : > > On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Nicolai Hess > wrote: > Just starting pharolauncher on windows still does not work (if you put it > into the default "program" folder). > On start, it tries to create a local direcit

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-09 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hi Peter, > Le 6 oct. 2017 à 21:13, Peter Uhnák a écrit : > > +1.0.1 :-) > > > Pharo Launcher files (images, VMs) are now considered as user Documents > > (easier to find). Consequently, they are now stored in the standard > > documents folder, i.e. > > $HOME/Pharo > > This seems like a ste

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-09 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
> On 9 Oct 2017, at 10:10, Christophe Demarey > wrote: > > Hi Peter, > >> Le 6 oct. 2017 à 21:13, Peter Uhnák > > a écrit : >> >> +1.0.1 :-) >> >> > Pharo Launcher files (images, VMs) are now considered as user Documents >> > (easier to find). Consequently, they ar

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem with input to XML Parser - 'Invalid UTF8 encoding'

2017-10-09 Thread Peter Kenny
Note: This was sent on Sunday at 19.45 but seems to have disappeared on its way to pharo users. Re-sent just to complete the story. _ Paul Good to have found the charset discrepancy - that may have something to do with it. But I don't think it ha

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem with input to XML Parser - 'Invalid UTF8 encoding'

2017-10-09 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
XML expects a prolog in the document itself defining the encoding, if absent, the standard specifies utf-8. So when you use an XML parser to parse an HTML page, it will disregard any HTTP encodings, interpret the contents as an XML document with missing prolog, and try to parse as utf8. When you u

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem with input to XML Parser - 'Invalid UTF8 encoding'

2017-10-09 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
In a class named XMLHTMLParser, you may expect that logic to be expanded a bit beyond the basic XML spec though. But since there are multiple potentially correct definitions, there will always be failure cases. Not to mention, in addition to XML/HTTP, HTML4/5 also define (different) meta tags for

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-09 Thread Christophe Demarey
> Le 6 oct. 2017 à 22:43, Gabriel Cotelli a écrit : > > I've tried running it from the terminal and it works!. > > If I double-click it from the file manager and choose "Run in Terminal" it > gives the previously commented error. I fear I cannot do much for this problem. I tried on ubuntu and

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem with input to XML Parser - 'Invalid UTF8 encoding'

2017-10-09 Thread Peter Kenny
Henry Thanks for the explanations. It's a bit clearer now. I'm still not sure about how ZnUrl>>retrieveContents manages to decode correctly in this case; I'm sure I recall Sven saying it didn't (and in his view shouldn't) look at the HTTP declarations in the header. There is also the mystery of ho

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-09 Thread horrido
Hey, guys, I'm mentioned in this O'Reilly newsletter !!! All because of the Pharo article. I wonder, is my campaign /actually/ succeeding? If so, I can d

Re: [Pharo-users] Problem with input to XML Parser - 'Invalid UTF8 encoding'

2017-10-09 Thread Peter Kenny
Correction - I am misrepresenting Sven. What he said was that Zinc would not look inside the HTML node to find out about coding. It would of course use information in the HTTP headers, if any. Peter Kenny wrote > Henry > > Thanks for the explanations. It's a bit clearer now. I'm still not sure

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-09 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > why a step backwards? > Pharo images are not *data* in the sense is intended for XDG_DATA_HOME. > In practice, an image is more like a document Pharo can read… data files > are configurations, etc. an app needs to work properly in the local > environment. > Pharo images instead, are modifiable/

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-09 Thread webwarrior
kilon.alios wrote > Care to explain what difficulty you experienced in live coding with > Python. > Or what Pharo can do that Python can’t live code wise ? Maybe I will learn > something. It's funny that one of main reasons why I discovered and started using Pharo was failure to get live coding wo

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I never claimed that Python , which refers to CPython to the vast majority of python coders, is offering live coding out of the box. The fact that you have to reload modules manually would make such claims ridiculous. >From the very first post I was crystal clear that there is a need for creating

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-09 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
And not to worry I won’t bother with discussing such issues again it’s clear the community is unwilling to deal with such discussions. I have no problem with that , it’s a free world. On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 at 03:41, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > I never claimed that Python , which refers to CPython to