[Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-03 Thread Paul DeBruicker
On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > If you do not give us more information we will never be able to fix it. > And may be 3.0 will still have the problem and you will start using system > that is 3 year old. > I can understand that you get in a situation where you cannot do otherwis

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-03 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> If you do not give us more information we will never be able to fix it. >> And may be 3.0 will still have the problem and you will start using system >> that is 3 year old. >> I can unders

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-03 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Sep 4, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > >> On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> If you do not give us more information we will never be able to fix it. >>> And may be 3.0 will still have the problem and you

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-03 Thread Marcus Denker
On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> If you do not give us more information we will never be able to fix it. >> And may be 3.0 will still have the problem and you will start using system >> that is 3 year old. >> I can unders

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 04 Sep 2013, at 08:57, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > >> On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> If you do not give us more information we will never be able to fix it. >>> And may be 3.0 will still have the problem and you will

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> Hi Stef, > > For reporting the RFB issue I made a thread > (http://forum.world.st/How-do-diagnose-image-locks-up-cpu-100-on-save-td4704639.html) > and uploaded a Pharo 2 image to dropbox where if you execute this code: > > > RFBServer start > Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: false > > > The

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > >> On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> If you do not give us more information we will never be able to fix it. >>> And may be 3.0 will still have the problem and you wil

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Marcus Denker
On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >>> >>> >> We are in the process of fixing them, but have not fixed all yet. I always >> thought that we would >> back port when we have fixed the problem completely in 3.0 > > I'm not sure what we are seeing in pharo3 is the same problem r

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 04.09.2013 um 01:13 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano : > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > >> On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> If you do not give us more information we will never be able to fix it. >>> And may be 3.0 will still have the problem and you wi

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 04.09.2013 um 09:14 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > On 04 Sep 2013, at 08:57, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: >> >>> On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: If you do not give us more information we will never be able to f

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 04 Sep 2013, at 10:47, Norbert Hartl wrote: > In all my other projects using zinc and RFB I didn't see the problem. But > then I don't save images in production. Images are very cool and very useful, but saving images in production is a no go, it is asking for trouble, IMHO. Sven

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 04.09.2013 um 10:54 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe : > > On 04 Sep 2013, at 10:47, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> In all my other projects using zinc and RFB I didn't see the problem. But >> then I don't save images in production. > > Images are very cool and very useful, but saving images in

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 04 Sep 2013, at 10:53, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Am 04.09.2013 um 09:14 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe : > >> >> On 04 Sep 2013, at 08:57, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: >>> On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > I

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Am 04.09.2013 um 01:13 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano : > >> >> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: >> >>> On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: If you do not give us more information we will never be able to fi

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 04.09.2013 um 11:41 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano : > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> >> Am 04.09.2013 um 01:13 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano : >> >>> >>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: >>> On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 04 Sep 2013, at 11:43, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> >> On 04 Sep 2013, at 10:47, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> In all my other projects using zinc and RFB I didn't see the problem. But >>> then I don't save images in producti

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 04.09.2013 um 11:43 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano : > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> >> On 04 Sep 2013, at 10:47, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> In all my other projects using zinc and RFB I didn't see the problem. But >>> then I don't save images in productio

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Sep 4, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 04 Sep 2013, at 10:53, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> >> Am 04.09.2013 um 09:14 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe : >> >>> >>> On 04 Sep 2013, at 08:57, Marcus Denker wrote: >>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicke

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > On 04 Sep 2013, at 10:47, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> In all my other projects using zinc and RFB I didn't see the problem. But >> then I don't save images in production. > > Images are very cool and very useful, but saving images

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:10 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > Am 04.09.2013 um 11:43 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano : > >> >> On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >> >>> >>> On 04 Sep 2013, at 10:47, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> In all my other projects using zinc and RFB I didn

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Paul DeBruicker
On 09/04/2013 12:14 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > I totally agree: the why use RFB part and the remote browsing/debugging > replacement part. On the other hand, if people want to use some library, that > should be possible. > > The problem is this case is (again) that have a user (no offenc

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I was using 2.0 --- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:p...@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High Octane SP

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
mm DBXTalk and image save sounded a bell... When we developed OpenDBXDriver, we idea was to make it as simple as possible for the final user. One thing we did was to automatically disconnect all opened connections at system shutdown...so that not to let connections open in the DB. Now I realiz

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Paul DeBruicker
On 09/04/2013 02:44 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > I will like to know which vm version are you using. > > Esteban the one thats packaged with the one-clicks 3.9-7 #1 Wed Mar 13 18:22:44 CET 2013 gcc 4.4.3 NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Paul DeBruicker
On 09/04/2013 12:54 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > I'm not sure what we are seeing in pharo3 is the same problem reported in > pharo2. > Of course if it is, we will backport. > But "inflation" problem in ph3 is very consistent and repeatable, the problem > reported in ph2... well, I never seen

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
phil was working with 3.0 (afaik) mariano was having problems with flushing monticello caches. I think it was not the same. Esteban On Sep 4, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > On 09/04/2013 12:54 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> I'm not sure what we are seeing in pharo3 is the same p

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Paul DeBruicker
On 09/04/2013 09:31 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Paul are you also using DBXTalk just by chance in that image? > > Cheers, No I haven't used DBXTalk yet.

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-04 Thread Marcus Denker
On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:30 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > I was using 2.0 > Yes, this is what I understood from the original report. Marcus signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-24 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi guys, I am having this problem and it is very very easy to reproduce for me. And it is in Mac, not Linux. I took a latest Pharo 2.0 image Latest update: #20619, and a Mac VM of Mar 13 2013. Open a workspace and evaluate: Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'RFB'; configuration;

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-24 Thread Marcus Denker
On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am having this problem and it is very very easy to reproduce for me. And it > is in Mac, not Linux. I took a latest Pharo 2.0 image Latest update: #20619, > and a Mac VM of Mar 13 2013. Open a workspace and evaluate:

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-24 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
What do people use RFB for? A remote interactive REPL could be useful too. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/9/24 Marcus Denker > > On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I am having this problem and it is very very easy to reproduce for me. And > it i

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
I use it for remotely deployed images. Whenever a debugger opens I get an email, connect to the image and examine the problem, fix it and done. Nothing beats the debugger. But yes a repl would be useful to for different things. Norbert Am 25.09.2013 um 03:14 schrieb "Esteban A. Maringolo" : >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-25 Thread Marcus Denker
On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > I use it for remotely deployed images. Whenever a debugger opens I get an > email, connect to the image and examine the problem, fix it and done. > Nothing beats the debugger. > Yes, we need remote debugging + Browsing... > But yes a repl

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 25.09.2013 um 09:55 schrieb Marcus Denker : > > On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> I use it for remotely deployed images. Whenever a debugger opens I get an >> email, connect to the image and examine the problem, fix it and done. >> Nothing beats the debugger. >> > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

2013-09-25 Thread Denis Kudriashov
Hi Do you try tODE? (I'm not yet but I really want it) 2013/9/25 Norbert Hartl > > Am 25.09.2013 um 09:55 schrieb Marcus Denker : > > > On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > I use it for remotely deployed images. Whenever a debugger opens I get an > email, connect to the image