Well, here in the South, I would imagine the more you see something, the less
you question it, of course... K's are on all all kindsa products down here and
have been certainly since the late 1800's. There's just as much chance it was
totally innocent and well-meaning as any other circumstanc
Thanks Jerry. It's kinda like an old broken 78 recordHey Mae Questel
did something about that.
Brantley
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If wiped off in a timely manner, water with GO JO will not hurt, but help
the finish on the machine. My God, these machines are over 100 years old.
Brantley
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Please change the subject line so the entire topic is not repeated. I do enjoy
the comments but I've plowed through tons of repeated material. A big thanks!
Jerry Blais
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Good Lord, a product's name is a conspiracy theory??? Gimme a break!
It's obvious that the maker of that stuff jujst wanted to give it a name
that was sort of attractive, and a tad different. Misspellings were used on
products from time immemorial.
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> From:
> To: Antique Ph
True, and I have heard that Kotton Klenser is actually a type of hand cleaner.
Who knows. Go to their website at www.kottonklenser,com and there are lotsa
products and faqs for use. Interesting.
Is anyone else curious why 2 words normally spelt with a C are spelt with Ks
(KK) and the company is
The time to destruction is a factor of the type of finish and the type
of cleaner used. The "waterless" hand cleaners all contain water, check
the ingredients. The water is tied up in a couple of the other
ingredients but if you wait long enough you will have water on the
finish problems.
j
I haven't found that to be the case with edison, victor or columbia machines,
but I don't let it soak either. I apply, rub in well, then remove with a soft
cloth. Follow up with a coat of a quality beeswax polish for a nice vintage
shine.
We all have our own methods of course!
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The Kotton Kleanser will slowly attack and soften the old varnish
formulas and will dissolve many decorative decals that were used in the
first 20 years of the 20th century if left in contact for very long. It
will strip the decals quite rapidly.
Barry Kasindorf wrote:
Kotton Kleanser is good
I found an early electric type sewing machine - looks like 1910-15
vintage that is branded Edison. I know this isn't phonograph related,
but does anyone know if Tom had anything to do with these machines?
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Kotton Kleanser is good stuff, I have used it, but someone said it
leaves the finish soft. I think it works better than gojo. Gojo is very
good at getting hand/finger smudge off where knobs and lids get used.
-Barry
Douglas Houston wrote:
Oh, indeed. Go-Jo and most other waterless hand cleane
I love Kotton Klenser, use it all the time to clean without removing finish. It
works great on nicotine covered surfaces, which may be what that black sticky
gunk is.
John Robles
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From: gregory caringi
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:
I've used both Go-Jo (without pumice!) and Kotton Klenser. I know it's more
expensive, but I really think the Kotton Klenser works better. I have complete
faith in the product. I've never seen it damage any finish I've used it on. I
put it on with a bristle paint brush. Apply it generously
Without disturbing the patina Good Grief!!!
> [Original Message]
> From: Don Durand
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Date: 10/22/2009 12:30:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me
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> Go-Jo with pumice works very well and removes the dirt and grime without
> dist
I have an aversion to using water based cleaners on shellac or any other
furniture finish, for that part. The good thing about Go-Jo, Goop, D&L, or
any others is that you don't put water on the finish to clean it.
There is a little film left on the finish, but it sems to evaporate in a
short time
Oh, indeed. Go-Jo and most other waterless hand cleaners are available with
pumice, and when you buy the stuff, you must look to get the right stuff.
There is one that does the same thing, and is probably the same
formulation. It's called Kotten Kleaner, or something like that. Good
stuff, I unders
My apologies, Don! But that is something I will never, ever try.
Of course, I did just purchase a complete Cheney phonograph that has definitely
not been stored well, so ya never know. :)
Robert
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> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:38:55 -0400
No Robert, I mean WITH pumice. The pumice is so fine that it doesn't harm
normal finishes. I would not recommend it for a piece with a French polish
finish and of course, you must use only light to moderate pressure. Try it
first on oak until you get the feel of it. It works particularly wel
Very true. Fortunately, they are two different materials. If the cleaners
etched or otherwise harmed the shellac, it should show up as cloudiness on
the shinny shellac surface of the 78 runout.
Ron L
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Be careful with fantastick and 409 as they will mar glass!
John
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From: "Ron L'Herault"
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:55:34
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me
It does leave a litt
It does leave a little lanolin on the surface I think. I usually do a quick
spray and wipe with Fantastic (which also does not seem to hurt the shellac
as far as I can tell. I tested it on a shiny part of a 78 and didn't see
any cloudiness.
Ron L
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I was concerned about that too..
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From: Robert Wright
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Sent: Oct 22, 2009 9:47 AM
SURELY you must mean WITHOUT pumice, Don. No o
SURELY you must mean WITHOUT pumice, Don. No one would wipe sand all over a
wood finish.
> From: durand7...@cox.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:13:38 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me
>
> Go-Jo with pumice works very well and remove
Go-Jo with pumice works very well and removes the dirt and grime without
disturbing the patina. You can find Go-Jo at most hardware and auto stores.
P.S., It is very inexpensive.
Good luck,
Don
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So if you plan to reflow the shellac after using one of these cleaners would
you still use anything else after the cleaner to prepare the surface?
Glenn
From: Ron L'Herault
To: Antique Phonograph List
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:58:04 AM
Subject: Re:
It is the waterless hand cleaner WITHOUT pumice. I use a product by L&D, I
think it is that is sold in the hardware or laundry sections of the
supermarket as both a hand cleaner and a material to remove oil/grease
stains (which it does well, by the way). The brand is not as important as
not hav
I Googled Go-Jo and found a company that makes a lot of products including a
hand sanitizer. Can anyone tell me which Go-Jo product you are referring to
and where it can be purchased? Does it removed the finish or just clean it?
Thank you.
Tom
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That grime served to protect the finish, I guess.
Ron L
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Behalf Of Douglas Houston
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:16 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it w
There is a fellow keeping a data base of Victors. You can ad yours by going
to http://www.victor-victrola.com
Charlotte aka Waves
http://www.wavesllc.com
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Douglas Houston wrote:
> Of course, I'm not there to see it, but my first guess would be a buildup
> of grim
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