Re: [Phono-L] Travesty...

2011-01-17 Thread Vinyl Visions
What is your eBay user name? Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 08:45:12 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Travesty... I just listed the Charleston on ebay yesterday and it is at $20 already. A lot of others like it too. Of course the song is popular,

Re: [Phono-L] Travesty...

2011-01-17 Thread john9ten
John9ten -Original Message- From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:42:05 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Travesty... What is your eBay user name?

Re: [Phono-L] Travesty...

2011-01-17 Thread Mike Stitt
Look here, http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-78rpm-Phonograph-Record-CHARLESTON-/110636618925?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item19c274d4ad MS On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:06 AM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: John9ten -Original Message- From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Sender:

Re: [Phono-L] Travesty...

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
I've been exposed! :-) --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Travesty... To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 8:24 AM Look here,

Re: [Phono-L] PayPal shipping

2011-01-17 Thread AllenAmet
In a message dated 1/16/2011 9:47:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: it is well worth it for me to be able just to drop it in the box and avoid the lines, especially when the PO is closed when I drive by at 6:20 am. but one is supposed to present

Re: [Phono-L] PayPal shipping

2011-01-17 Thread Dennis Back
but one is supposed to present the package TO a clerk if it weighs 13  ounces or more.  (security). allen -- I believe that the sign says no STAMPED items can be more than 13.  I take this to mean that if you have PRINTED your postage, you can

Re: [Phono-L] PayPal shipping

2011-01-17 Thread Steven Medved
Not if it has electronic or online postage, I do it all the time. Next time read the restriction note. I mail on a regular basis, I work at the airport so the airport post office is very convenient. Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:16:59 -0800 From: back...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org

[Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
Hello all Well, after I had offered it here with no takers, I had listed my Theodore Roosevelt cylinder on eBay, It used to be that they went for around $100, and it only got up to $66.  What's your opinion, is this cylinder (Social and Industrial Justice) just that common, or is it the

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread Steven Medved
Both. Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:27:35 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder Hello all Well, after I had offered it here with no takers, I had listed my Theodore Roosevelt cylinder on eBay, It used to be that they went

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread Jay Horenstein
I couldn't tell you. I had a early Vic I (mint) all original, low serial number, original small flower horn, and small reproduction bell horn (for a flawless display) on EBay, and it went for $625. At the same time a beat up, non working, no horn, nothing special Vic 1 went for $1500. Go

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread Mike Stitt
It's the economy, it's the internet. I own many records and cylinders. Many very rare. Why own a record? As a digital file it as it takes up so little space. And most of the time free or close to free. Not much disposable income out there. On the other hand if I decide to collect something

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
Yeah, I think you're right. I've seen good things go on ebay for nothing and crappy stuff go high. I have a 5400 series BA that I tried to sell and couldn't get more than $20 after listing it twice, (it was a Hawaiian number) so I kept it. I just relisted it yesterday and its up to $42 already.

Re: [Phono-L] PayPal shipping

2011-01-17 Thread Steven Medved
PayPal is good for first class and media, USPS.com is good for priority. Thanks for you comment, I did not know that. Steve Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:48:31 -0800 From: back...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] PayPal shipping One other thing to consider is

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread Vinyl Visions
The same thing happened with my collection of Vogue Picture Records, which at the time, were as scarce as hen's teeth. For years, I spent my spare time scrounging through piles of worthless records looking for one or hours on the phone trying to find a collector that might part with a

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
Very true. There is a shop in town that has something like 6 or 7 of them at an average $50 each, and they offered me a ten percent discount, and I am still having trouble parting with the money cuz they don't have that kind of value any more. I remember when I could have bought them at that

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread harvey kravitz
It cracks me up what items sell on ebay. Several years ago, I bought an incomplete Berliner on ebay for $750.00. I was missing the horn, elbow and some screws. I have since completed the machine. At the same time, a VV IX went for $1500.00!! Just recently, a Standard model F went for $6100.00!!

[Phono-L] Sonora - Adam Deluxe Westminster Art Model on ebay

2011-01-17 Thread bruce78rpm
http://cgi.ebay.com/Victrola-1920s-Sonora-Adam-DeLuxe-Westminster-Art-/150549920630?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2hash=item230d797b76 Anyone out there in the Austin, Texas area ? Here is a really rare find. A Sonora Period Art Model. I must say I have never seen this particular model except in my

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
I often think that when something common goes high on ebay it is because someone the seller knows is shilling it. --- On Mon, 1/17/11, harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com wrote: From: harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder To: Antique

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread Vinyl Visions
Harvey, How did you find the rigid arm Victor? I searched under everything I could think of and it didn't come up... maybe that's why it's so cheap. Here is another unusual machine that you don't see for sale very often:

Re: [Phono-L] Sonora - Adam Deluxe Westminster Art Model on ebay

2011-01-17 Thread Vinyl Visions
and listed as a Victrola... Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:15:16 + From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: Phono-L@oldcrank.org CC: phonol...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora - Adam Deluxe Westminster Art Model on ebay

Re: [Phono-L] Sonora - Adam Deluxe Westminster Art Model on ebay

2011-01-17 Thread bruce78rpm
Does anyone know what the numbers at the beginning of the ID plate mean. I am just guessing but the #6 seems to indicate the number of this particular type of Art Model in the Sonora Catalog, while the No. 1 may indicate that this one was the first of this type sold, and the serial number is

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread The Farmers
Of course it could be shilling sometimes, but then I've been thrilled to see how high some of the common things I've sold on ebay have gone, and I KNOW there was no shilling. -- Greg Farmer - Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net To: Antique Phonograph List

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
Agreed, I out a Vaughn DeLeath cylinder on there recently, number 5666, admittedly a high number, recorded in 1929. I ALMOST put a buy it now price of $100, but I didn't. Good thing, because it went for $500!!! --- On Mon, 1/17/11, The Farmers g...@usfamily.net wrote: From: The Farmers

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread harvey kravitz
I was looking under Victor phonograph and the caption says the first Victor the Second. i'll ook for it because it's in my watch section and I will post the ebay number. Harvey Kravitz From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent:

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread harvey kravitz
The ebay number is 190489401852. Harvey Kravitz From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 12:16:51 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder Harvey, How did you find the rigid arm Victor? I

[Phono-L] Fw: Don't miss out on your watched items ending soon.

2011-01-17 Thread harvey kravitz
Here is a link to show the rigid arm Victor E Harvey Kravitz - Forwarded Message From: eBay e...@ebay.com To: harveykrav...@yahoo.com Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 1:13:00 PM Subject: Don't miss out on your watched items ending soon. eBay sent this message to Harvey Kravitz

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread Zonophone2006
hi all tell me about it i have three copies of warsaw concerto lol its still all good In a message dated 1/17/2011 2:56:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: The same thing happened with my collection of Vogue Picture Records, which at the time, were as scarce as

[Phono-L] New phonograph - Pathe cylinder machine

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
Hi all Here is the newest machine I have acquired, purchased before Christmas.  Had I known the expenses I would run into with my dog, I might have waited... It is a Pathe Coquet, a French machine from about 1905 or so. It is small, the size of a Columbia AA, very cute. It is made of walnut,

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread phonofolks
Let's face it folks us collectors were taken advantage of for decades...yes decades for both vogue picture records and your most common phonographs. Dealers knew these records were not rare and the same goes for your common Edison, columbia and victor horned machines but collectors agreed to

Re: [Phono-L] New phonograph - Pathe cylinder machine

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
PS Double click on the photos to enlarge them! --- On Mon, 1/17/11, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net Subject: [Phono-L] New phonograph - Pathe cylinder machine To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 5:17 PM Hi all Here is the

Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
It's good if you are a buyer now, sure, but if you are a seller with a machine you bought five or ten years ago, it is hard to get your money back.  I bought a nice Victor VI about 10 years ago for $5600, and I couldn't get near that now.  I saw them at the CAPS show priced at $4500 and not

Re: [Phono-L] Rigid Arm Victor

2011-01-17 Thread Vinyl Visions
$2,357.99 and 28 bids later, the rigid arm Victor E sold... I'm glad I sold mine a couple of years ago for $3,500. That machine was one of those things that really makes the OCD behavior go wild. I bought it from an eccentric collector in pre-eBay days. He had a number of machines, but

Re: [Phono-L] New phonograph - Pathe cylinder machine

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
It's not bad actually, equal or less than a Q. The box helps a lot. --- On Mon, 1/17/11, DanKj ediso...@verizon.net wrote: From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New phonograph - Pathe cylinder machine To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, January 17,

[Phono-L] Puck Machines

2011-01-17 Thread Vinyl Visions
I am sure that someone out there has some knowledge of Puck machines. I bought one a few years ago that has a bedplate that looks like a bluebird or songbird of some type sitting on a vine. It is built into a wooden case, so I believe that it's called a Kastenpuck or cabinet puck. The real

Re: [Phono-L] New phonograph - Pathe cylinder machine

2011-01-17 Thread Vinyl Visions
I love your machine, John. I have one that the works flip over into a chest which then looks like a small jewelry box with a brass handle on top. Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:18:55 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New phonograph - Pathe cylinder

Re: [Phono-L] Rigid Arm Victor

2011-01-17 Thread Vinyl Visions
The real question is how did this guy end up with a rigid arm Victor - he apparently knows nothing about it - hence, the title of the listing: 1902 THE FIRST VICTOR THE SECOND VICTROLA PHONOGRAPH Why is EVERYTHING a Victrola??? From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date:

Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
The Puck machines were made in Germany, starting with the original lyric design in 1901 and going on to 1914. They were most often giveaways.  The Kastenpucks came along in 1903 and lasted til 1914. They're not often seen here. There were lots sold in England, and American Graphophone imported

Re: [Phono-L] Rigid Arm Victor

2011-01-17 Thread john robles
Everything is a Victrola because of Victor's superior marketing techniques. --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rigid Arm Victor To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 6:28 PM The

Re: [Phono-L] New phonograph - Pathe cylinder machine

2011-01-17 Thread Vinyl Visions
Yes, it has the standard mandrel and a salon mandrel that slips over it to accomodate the larger cylinders. I think the mechanism is interesting, since the horn tracks the cylinder as well as the reproducer. Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:32:34 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To:

Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines

2011-01-17 Thread Vinyl Visions
Would they have been made in Nuremburg? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:31:41 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines The Puck machines were made in Germany, starting with the original lyric design in 1901 and going on to 1914. They were

Re: [Phono-L] New phonograph - Pathe cylinder machine

2011-01-17 Thread Vinyl Visions
I should buy your Charleston record. I have several, but I don't think I have this version with Ben Selvin. Does it really sound a lot better than Whiteman and the others? You probably don't have an audio file? Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:32:34 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To:

Re: [Phono-L] Rigid Arm Victor

2011-01-17 Thread Andrew Baron
I think it was to cast a much bigger net into the sea of prospective buyers. Which in turn affirms John's comment. Andy Baron On Jan 17, 2011, at 7:33 PM, john robles wrote: Everything is a Victrola because of Victor's superior marketing techniques. --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Vinyl Visions

Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines

2011-01-17 Thread john9ten
Not sure..maybe Leipzig or one of the other musical/industrial places. -Original Message- From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:40:09 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org

Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines

2011-01-17 Thread john9ten
Not sure..maybe Leipzig or one of the other musical/industrial places. -Original Message- From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:40:09 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org

Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines

2011-01-17 Thread john9ten
Not sure..maybe Leipzig or one of the other musical/industrial places. -Original Message- From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:40:09 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org

Re: [Phono-L] Sonora - Adam Deluxe Westminster Art Model on ebay

2011-01-17 Thread bruce78rpm
I am surprised that Jasper S. has not snapped this rare Art Model up by now. Bruce - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 3:18:56 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora - Adam Deluxe Westminster Art Model on

Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines

2011-01-17 Thread phonophan
John is quite correct in his notes about Pucks. They were made in a number of factories in Germany, but I'm quite convinced they were also produced in France. French Pucks (such as the Lion-head Pucks) have silver-painted bases, something that distinguishes them. Except for Georges Carette (a