Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Rich
Does that motor look like an Edison Ekonowatt motor? On 10/28/2012 11:01 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: Rich, I sent it to a shop in Michigan to have it checked out. There was "give" in the shaft causing worn bearings and as it turned it had a binding spot, which turned out to be a slight bend. It

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Rich
That is probably a universal motor and they throw much fire when operating. I doubt that it is fatally grounded and someone who has dealt with them can probably fix it or George may have a replacement as it is probably a common off the shelf period part. As long as the armature is not open or g

Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

2012-10-28 Thread Vinyl Visions
All of this destruction makes me want to mount an Edison horn on my leaf blower for extra volume... > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > From: gpaul2...@aol.com > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:18:13 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors > > Here in the Finger Lakes of New York s

Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

2012-10-28 Thread Ron L'Herault
Saw that. Don't want to own it! Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:29 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Hello

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Vinyl Visions
Rich, I sent it to a shop in Michigan to have it checked out. There was "give" in the shaft causing worn bearings and as it turned it had a binding spot, which turned out to be a slight bend. It also arced and lost power when it was running and fluctuated from pulling a record to coming to a c

Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

2012-10-28 Thread Vinyl Visions
Now that I've seen one, I'm tearing a VTLA apart to make one... :) > From: steve_nor...@msn.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:29:16 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors > > > Hello Ron, For only $80 you can own one. > http://www.rubylane.c

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Vinyl Visions
Steve, Machining a new shaft or straightening the old one, shouldn't be a problem... however, I have never rewound a motor. > From: steve_nor...@msn.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:25:17 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor > > > Take photos, we al

Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

2012-10-28 Thread George Paul
Here in the Finger Lakes of New York state, we occasionally see trolling motors made from phonograph spring motors. Believe it or not, there was a guy still doing this at least up to about 5 years ago. Several antique dealers have told me they sell their junk machines to this guy who installs

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Rich
Do you know what type of motor it is and what has convinced you that it needs rewound? The reason I ask is those are not at all like straight forward motors that inhabit reasonably modern turntables. On 10/28/2012 08:23 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: Hi Rich, Thanks for that info... I spent a lot o

Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

2012-10-28 Thread Steven Medved
Hello Ron, For only $80 you can own one. http://www.rubylane.com/item/167844-10324/Victrola-Wind-up-Fishing-Reel Steve > From: lhera...@bu.edu > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:12:24 -0400 > Subject: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors > >

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Steven Medved
Take photos, we all enjoy seeing what a skilled person can do. Could you have someone machine a new shaft? Steve > From: vinyl.visi...@live.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:23:04 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor > > > Hi Rich, > Thanks for that in

Re: [Phono-L] Styles of the VV-XII

2012-10-28 Thread Bob Maffit
Andrew: thanks for the correction on it being the 4th machine. great! later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Baron Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:00 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L]

Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

2012-10-28 Thread Steven Medved
I had an amberola 50 someone did that with. The cut the mandrel in pieces, a front and back with a wood V shaped center that held the string. They made a wooden box to hold the motor. I might have saved the mandrel and I think I still have the wooden box. Steve > From: lhera...@bu.edu > To:

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread C5fan
I will try to send one this week. Its the big cast motor. Thanks In a message dated 10/28/2012 3:39:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, victr...@triton.net writes: Can you forward pictures of your motor? Thank you, George Vollema Great Lakes Antique Phonograph 5092 Muskego Dr. Newaygo MI 4933

Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

2012-10-28 Thread Vinyl Visions
I haven't seen one of those Ron, but if you get an old crank generator from an early telephone, I have heard that works for fishing... :) > From: lhera...@bu.edu > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org; phonol...@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:12:24 -0400 > Subject: [Phono-L] trolling motors fr

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Vinyl Visions
Hi Rich, Thanks for that info... I spent a lot of time restoring the phono, so figuring out how to rewind the motor would be interesting. > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:20:02 -0500 > From: rich-m...@octoxol.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor > > There a

[Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

2012-10-28 Thread Ron L'Herault
I'm looking for information about the practice of turning a spring wound phono motor into a trolling motor/line winder. Ever see on, build one, use one? Got pictures? Thanks, Ron L ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org

Re: [Phono-L] Styles of the VV-XII

2012-10-28 Thread Andrew Baron
Hi Bob ~ I believe you have the fourth Victor XII: 501 was the first 502 503 504 Congratulations! It's relatively unlikely that the three earlier s.n.'s will ever surface, so unless/until the unlikely day that one does, you can claim to have the earliest currently known VV-XII. Andrew Baron

Re: [Phono-L] Styles of the VV-XII

2012-10-28 Thread Bob Maffit
Loran: So... If the Victor VV-XII was the first table model made, and this one has the sn 504 Does that indicate it was the 3rd Victor table phonograph made? later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Loran Hughes

Re: [Phono-L] Styles of the VV-XII

2012-10-28 Thread Loran Hughes
Given that serial numbers started at 501, that would be extremely early. A real find, indeed! Loran On Oct 28, 2012, at 3:58 PM, "Bob Maffit" wrote: > Jerry: > > thanks for the information. I think I have the earlier one as I don't find > any "fancy molding" around the machine at all. > > th

[Phono-L] Amberola horn suspension spring needed

2012-10-28 Thread john robles
Hi Does anyone have a suspension spring for an Amberola horn 30/50/75? This is the spring that suspends the horn fron the little hook under the bedplate. My friend Dick Carty needs one. Thanks! John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org

Re: [Phono-L] Styles of the VV-XII

2012-10-28 Thread Bob Maffit
Jerry: thanks for the information. I think I have the earlier one as I don't find any "fancy molding" around the machine at all. the phonograph ID plate has, what must be the sn of: 504 Interesting, the machine also has a company id plate as well. It is from Sherman, and Clay co. from Spokane. I

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Rich
There are no --coils in a box-- for those antique motors. Requires hand rewinding by a skilled craftsman. Would be cheaper if you went to the library and got an old book on motor rewinding and did it yourself. Figure about 8 hours of labor to do the job from an experienced person from start to

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Vinyl Visions
Thanks Ron... I'll check them out, as they are not too far away. The problem I am having is finding someone willing to rebuild a small motor - "reasonably". I found one in Michigan that wants $900 to rewind the motor and straighten the shaft - seems kind of excessive. > From: lhera...@bu.edu

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Ron L'Herault
Look around for a motor rebuilding company. http://www.claytonelectricmotorrepair.com/ Takes you to one that may fit the bill. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:09

[Phono-L] Styles of the VV-XII

2012-10-28 Thread DeeDee Blais
     The first style XII is a little plainer than the later XII.  The doors over the horn are very thin.  The later XII has a bit of fancy trim that runs around the machine under the lid and the doors over the horn are slightly taller.  I think the model was made for slightly over a year and pro

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread ba...@barrykasindorf.com
Hi Do you have a big belt pulley from a suitcase home motor? -Barry - Reply message - From: "George" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Subject: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor Date: Sun, Oct 28, 2012 3:25 pm Can you forward pictures of your motor? Thank you, George Vollema Great Lakes A

Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread George
Can you forward pictures of your motor? Thank you, George Vollema Great Lakes Antique Phonograph 5092 Muskego Dr. Newaygo MI 49337-8556 231-652-5753 victr...@triton.net www.victroladoctor.com - Original Message - From: Vinyl Visions To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, Oc

[Phono-L] Fairy Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Vinyl Visions
I just restored my Fairy Phono Lamp, but found that the motor needs rewinding and the shaft is bent... Anyone have a motor for this? Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org

Re: [Phono-L] Burns Pollock Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread Rich
You need to look for a hobbyist machinist who will cut one for you as the cost to setup and machine a single gear will take your breath away. A small independent job shop would do it but you will need drawings and specifications, but still expensive. On 10/28/2012 12:08 PM, John Maeder wrote:

Re: [Phono-L] Burns Pollock Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread John Maeder
Any machine shop can cut a gear in any material. Modern fiber gears are usually cut from nylon or delrin plastics. > From: c5...@aol.com > Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:10:29 -0400 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Burns Pollock Phono Lamp Motor > > I am looking for the electric moto

[Phono-L] Burns Pollock Phono Lamp Motor

2012-10-28 Thread C5fan
I am looking for the electric motor for a Burns and Pollock Phono Lamp or parts for the motor including the fiber gear. This is the motor with the tin cover on the bottom. Any information on whom can cut fiber gears would be great appreciated. Also looking for the speed control knob for the

Re: [Phono-L] Victor XII questions

2012-10-28 Thread Bob Maffit
Ron: I spent a little time with some oil & a "hair dryer", heated it up and the bracket came in two parts. After a little "convincing from a small wooden mallet & caution & care. I still am just: studying the motor. again, thanks Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.or

Re: [Phono-L] Victor XII questions

2012-10-28 Thread Bob Maffit
MV: Thanks for your interest in my posts with regard to a recently obtained Victor Xii. You mention Victor XII had 2 styles, "OLD & New). What is the difference in them? I believe the machine I have is a very "restorable" machine as the only thing missing, are the knobs & reproducer, as far as