[Kristian Koehntopp [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
And finally, what is services to you? How will they relate to
PHP and what do we as developers need to do to enable them?
To me, services means online transactions, be it web search, stock
alerts or credit card payments, and the full range of variations
Edin Kadribasic wrote:
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-08-13-009-20-OP
This guy claims that PHP has been 'left in the dust' by ASP.NET.
Uh... if a viable, tested, deployed product was shipping, that may
eventually be substantiated.
Quick show of hands: Who has deployed an
[Kristian Koehntopp [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 02:24:27AM +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote:
I've rambled a bit, but my feeling is that the Linux Today Article
is premature. PHP can (and likely will) support the features
mentioned in the article, but the real question is, are
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I don't usually buy into long term visions, because they virtually never
work. Microsoft changed its vision twice in the last 5 years,
*completely*, from end to end. Sun (and the other Java followers) have
also changed their Java vision several times during its short lifespan,
also, from
(And other .NET is the death knell for Open Source articles...)
I guess I am just missing something, but how can ANYTHING kill Open
Source in general, or PHP in specific?
There is no way that .NET is going to be a silver bullet solution that
solves every possible problem in the most efficent,
On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 01:20:23PM +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote:
I don't usually buy into long term visions, because they
virtually never work. Microsoft changed its vision twice in
the last 5 years, *completely*, from end to end. Sun (and the
other Java followers) have also changed their Java
Hi everyone,
I found the talk about Apache vs IIS boring. I run both and only look at
httpd.conf
maybe once a month, and ditto with IIS Service Manager. It's just
infrastructure
that helps me do interesting things.
And .NET and PHP both allow me to do interesting things.
In some ways .NET is
Hi Ron,
You're asking the wrong audience. Ask for a show of hands on a .NET mailing
list.
Regards, John
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Edin Kadribasic wrote:
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-08-13-009-20-OP
This
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-08-13-009-20-OP
This guy claims that PHP has been 'left in the dust' by ASP.NET. Any truth
in that observation? Has anyone tried it (ASP.NET and the whole .NET
thingy).
Edin
From the article:
There will be Apache defenders who will bristle at
Edin Kadribasic wrote:
Where is the PHP enterprise component architecture?
What exactly would that be?
What about clustering and failover?
This has nothing to do with the language, IMHO, but with the
platform, ie. the web server. I guess there are solutions to
provide clustering and
Where are the WSDL and UDDI implementations?
What are WSDL and UDDI? Are there libraries out there can be
wrapped into an extension?
I didn't know myself until now but UDDI stands for Universal Description
Discovery and Integration. It has to do with 'managing the discovery of web
Edin Kadribasic wrote:
It would be great to hear if anyone else has had a chance to play
with the new Microsoft toys.
WSDL and UDDI are not Microsoft toys, however Microsoft was
involved in the development and with the specification, I
assume.
WSDL is just an XML format. WSDL support
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
WSDL and UDDI are not Microsoft toys, however Microsoft was
involved in the development and with the specification, I
assume.
WSDL is just an XML format. WSDL support in PHP could be
implemented as a PEAR class that draws upon
WSDL and UDDI are not Microsoft toys, however Microsoft was
involved in the development and with the specification, I
assume.
I meant .NET. It is the biggest competitor to Apache/PHP after all.
Edin
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Edin Kadribasic wrote:
Maybe Zend has some feedback from their enterprise clients on
what features are requested, etc.
It would be great to hear if anyone else has had a chance to play with the
new Microsoft toys.
As a PHP contributor and long-time user, I can
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Edin Kadribasic wrote:
Where is the PHP enterprise component architecture?
What exactly would that be?
What about clustering
provide what I need today, but I like PHP better.
Blake
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Where is the PHP enterprise
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Edin Kadribasic wrote:
Maybe Zend has some feedback from their enterprise clients on
what features are requested, etc
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Brian Moon wrote:
Could someone please tell me what other then marketing speak that .NET has
on PHP? I guess I just don't see it. I mean, yeah, if you want to develop
junk at a fast pace you can use MS products. I was a VB programmer for
years. I know the reliability
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