Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-04-02 Thread Kristian Köhntopp
Marcus Börger wrote: > I do not think having your cookie beeing part of dns is > a fast solution or did you your self register many of > these entrie before you brought > your page up because than i get me a dns server download your > possible cookielist (then it is a download :-) ) and and do a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-30 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Egon Schmid wrote: > If you know the conference paper from the last PHP Kongress in > Cologne, you can see the company logo at the page of Hartmut´s > abstract :) He really dislike such a advertising himself. Please stop citing me out of context. No, i didn't dislike the advertisement. Yes, i di

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-30 Thread Egon Schmid
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Egon Schmid wrote: > > > From: "Stefan Esser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sorry, what do you want to tell us? Your mail doesn't make any > > sense. > > > > Please tell us more about the patents from the German company > > www.sevenval.de. > > Sure

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-30 Thread derick
On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Egon Schmid wrote: > From: "Stefan Esser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sorry, what do you want to tell us? Your mail doesn't make any > sense. > > Please tell us more about the patents from the German company > www.sevenval.de. Sure, but what do patents have to do with Marks'

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-30 Thread Egon Schmid
From: "Stefan Esser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sorry, what do you want to tell us? Your mail doesn't make any sense. Please tell us more about the patents from the German company www.sevenval.de. -Egon -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.ne

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-30 Thread Stefan Esser
Sorry, what do you want to tell us? Your mail doesn't make any sense. Stefan -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-30 Thread Egon Schmid
t; Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch What has that got to do with anything? - Stig On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 20:11, Egon Schmid wrote: > No, I don´t read such nonsense patents. > > -Egon > > - Original Message - > F

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-30 Thread Stig S. Bakken
t; > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch > > > > Hi, > > > > I have not followed the discussion, but its nonsense to force > people to use > > PHP generated session IDs. Its an argument against using PHP. >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread Egon Schmid
From: "Stefan Esser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Have a look at www.sevenval.com. Sorry everything is German. If you > > Hmm yeah but if your browser is really not able to do proper content > negotiation, there is still an "english" button in the right lower edge of > the page... Yeah, I have found

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread Marcus Börger
Tell me if i'm wrong From the webpage german freely translated to english > Hervorragende Eignung für hoch frequentierte Websites =>Especially for highly frquented webpages. I do not think having your cookie beeing part of dns is a fast solution or did you your self register many of these entrie

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread Stefan Esser
Hi, > Have a look at www.sevenval.com. Sorry everything is German. If you Hmm yeah but if your browser is really not able to do proper content negotiation, there is still an "english" button in the right lower edge of the page... > regocnize what I mean. The generated URLs are patents. > Please

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread Egon Schmid
"Egon Schmid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Stefan Esser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PHP Developers Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Egon Schmid wrot

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread Robinson, Mike
Title: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch I went back and re-read the thread after Derek's note. I misunderstood the purpose of the patch. Mike Robinson IT/Developer - Torstar Media Group Television Phone: 416.945.8786 Fax: 416.869.4566 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread mlwmohawk
> Stefan Esser writes: >> Hi, >> >> I have not followed the discussion, but its nonsense to force >> people to use >> PHP generated session IDs. Its an argument against using PHP. > > I don't think so. > >> There are several situations where it is not possible to let >> PHP generate

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread derick
On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Robinson, Mike wrote: > Stefan Esser writes: > > Hi, > > > > I have not followed the discussion, but its nonsense to force > > people to use > > PHP generated session IDs. Its an argument against using PHP. > > I don't think so. > > > There are several situations where it

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread Robinson, Mike
Title: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch Stefan Esser writes: > Hi, > > I have not followed the discussion, but its nonsense to force > people to use > PHP generated session IDs. Its an argument against using PHP. I don't think so. > There are several sit

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread derick
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 7:35 PM > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch > > > > Hi, > > > > I have not followed the discussion, but its nonsense to force > people to use > > PHP generated session IDs. Its an argument aga

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread Egon Schmid
No, I don´t read such nonsense patents. -Egon - Original Message - From: "Stefan Esser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch > Hi, > > I have not followed the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread Stefan Esser
Hi, I have not followed the discussion, but its nonsense to force people to use PHP generated session IDs. Its an argument against using PHP. There are several situations where it is not possible to let PHP generate the session ids. Especially if you use stuff like the Sevenval FIT or HIT technol

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread mlwmohawk
Why is it you do not wish the session save handlers to be able to generare their own session IDs? The patch does not break any save handlers, but adds a lot more flexibility to the session system. A pseudo-random number may not be what is desired. I may want the session id to be the user's

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-28 Thread Sascha Schumann
> Perhaps, and here is something to think about, pseudo-random is > not what the developer wants as a session ID. Well, provided that there is a device which captures white noise, you can also get real random session ids with the current code. > The storage handlers need not calculat

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-27 Thread mlwmohawk
>> Should php create the session id, or should the session handler? > > PHP should. Here is something to think about. > > It is hard to generate hard to guess session ids. PHP has > various internal entropy sources and can read from system > provided entropy sources as well

[PHP-DEV] Re: Re: Session patch

2002-03-27 Thread Sascha Schumann
> Should php create the session id, or should the session handler? PHP should. Here is something to think about. It is hard to generate hard to guess session ids. PHP has various internal entropy sources and can read from system provided entropy sources as well. That gives PHP