Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-09 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
DL>> be buildable with all of 4.x without user intervention, so I'm trying DL>> to figure out some way to handle the change via the pre-processor. Use ZEND_EXTENSION_API_NO, it changes every time API changes so that extensions may break. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer [EMAIL PROT

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
You should be using ZEND_EXTENSION_API_NO, it's an integer. Zeev At 23:32 8/5/2001, Dan Libby wrote: >ok, so ZEND_VERSION_DOUBLE is crazy talk. the preprocessor doesn't like floats >either. But something like ZEND_VERSION_MAJOR 4, ZEND_VERSION_MINOR 6 would >satisfy it. > >-danda > >Dan Libby w

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-08 Thread Andi Gutmans
There is a ZEND_MODULE_API_NO Andi At 01:32 PM 5/8/2001 -0700, Dan Libby wrote: >ok, so ZEND_VERSION_DOUBLE is crazy talk. the preprocessor doesn't like floats >either. But something like ZEND_VERSION_MAJOR 4, ZEND_VERSION_MINOR 6 would >satisfy it. > >-danda > >Dan Libby wrote: > > > This chan

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-08 Thread Dan Libby
ok, so ZEND_VERSION_DOUBLE is crazy talk. the preprocessor doesn't like floats either. But something like ZEND_VERSION_MAJOR 4, ZEND_VERSION_MINOR 6 would satisfy it. -danda Dan Libby wrote: > This change also broke my extension. I'd like to have the extension > be buildable with all of 4.x w

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-08 Thread Dan Libby
This change also broke my extension. I'd like to have the extension be buildable with all of 4.x without user intervention, so I'm trying to figure out some way to handle the change via the pre-processor. I thought that ZEND_VERSION, defined in zend.h, might do the trick. Unfortunately, it is de

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Billy Rose
y Rose'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes > Billy: > > Meet the QA team :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > > From: Billy Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Sun, 6 May 2001, James Moore wrote: > > > > > You're not wrong; It's been done and published > > > > (http://www.zend.com/apidoc/), and is the base for additional work > > > > that I invited people to improve on. > > > > > >Hey, are the sources for this manual available somewhere? CVS maybe?

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 14:14 6/5/2001, James Moore wrote: > > > > You're not wrong; It's been done and published > > > > (http://www.zend.com/apidoc/), and is the base for additional work > > > > that I invited people to improve on. > > > > > >Hey, are the sources for this manual available somewhere? CVS maybe? >

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread James Moore
> > > You're not wrong; It's been done and published > > > (http://www.zend.com/apidoc/), and is the base for additional work > > > that I invited people to improve on. > > > >Hey, are the sources for this manual available somewhere? CVS maybe? > > Yep, sure thing; cvs.zend.com, co ZendAPI; R

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 11:41 6/5/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: > > You're not wrong; It's been done and published > > (http://www.zend.com/apidoc/), and is the base for additional work > > that I invited people to improve on. > >Hey, are the sources for this manual available somewhere? CVS maybe? Yep, sure thing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > At 21:05 4/5/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > >PS: about the "welcome" thing above ... > > > >- you should know that i have put a lot of work into the manual > >(both english and german) and the function tables > > Hartmut, > > I wasn't trying to unders

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Björn Schotte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > * Zeev Suraski wrote: > > There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to > > extend it. > > I don't understand why people should work in their spare-time > on a tool which is published under the Zend Licence (which is > similar to QPL

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Vlad Krupin
the main > pipeline of the development team. What do you think? > > - Original Message - > From: "Zeev Suraski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Billy Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:33 PM

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Sean R. Bright
Billy: Meet the QA team :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Billy Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes > > > It is obvious that this project ha

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Billy Rose
- Original Message - From: "Zeev Suraski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Billy Rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes > You can always suggest... :) > > At 02:14 5/5/200

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Zeev Suraski
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Hartmut Holzgraefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:27 PM >Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes > > > > At 21:05 4/5/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > > >PS: about the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Billy Rose
gt; Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes > At 21:05 4/5/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > >PS: about the "welcome" thing above ... > > > >- you should know that i have put a lot of work into the manual

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Sterling Hughes wrote: > > neither the book chapter you defined to be the official documentation > > nor the readme files describe the complete api > > > > e.g. it's very hard to get the clue what all the *FETCH macros are good > > for from the so called official documentation > > > > do you stil

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Wez Furlong
On 2001-05-04 19:59:23, "Andrei Zmievski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 04 May 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote: > > Well maybe not manpage style. I think there should be some Javadoc-like > > comments in the Zend source, the same way the apache portable runtime is I remember the Amiga coding

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Fri, 04 May 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Well maybe not manpage style. I think there should be some Javadoc-like > comments in the Zend source, the same way the apache portable runtime is > documented or state threads library is (yeah, yeah, I know, don't end > sentences with prepositions :)

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > Hope is always a good thing :) > > There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to > > extend it. > > besides all political/philosophical issues (licensing and such ...) > > i am talking about a *re

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:05 4/5/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: >PS: about the "welcome" thing above ... > >- you should know that i have put a lot of work into the manual >(both english and german) and the function tables Hartmut, I wasn't trying to understate your work on the manual; I told you personally

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Joe Brown
Well you should, damnit! ;-) "Zeev Suraski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 20:20 4/5/2001, Björn Schotte wrote: >* Zeev Suraski wrote: > > There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to > > extend it. > >I don't unders

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 20:20 4/5/2001, Björn Schotte wrote: >* Zeev Suraski wrote: > > There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to > > extend it. > >I don't understand why people should work in their spare-time >on a tool which is published under the Zend Licence (which is >similar to QPL).

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Zeev Suraski wrote: > > Hope is always a good thing :) > There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to > extend it. besides all political/philosophical issues (licensing and such ...) i am talking about a *reference* documentation, not a manual or howto neither the boo

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread James Moore
> * James Moore wrote: > > And the point of this other than trying to start a flame war was Bjorn? > > I'm not starting a flame war. I just didnt understand what your comments possibly had to do with the Zend API docs. AFIAK they arnt QPL'd (and if they are it doesnt really matter although they

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Björn Schotte
* James Moore wrote: > And the point of this other than trying to start a flame war was Bjorn? I'm not starting a flame war. Björn. -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread James Moore
> > There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to > > extend it. > > I don't understand why people should work in their spare-time > on a tool which is published under the Zend Licence (which is > similar to QPL). As we know of QPL, all developer's seem to > be equal, b

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Björn Schotte
* Zeev Suraski wrote: > There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to > extend it. I don't understand why people should work in their spare-time on a tool which is published under the Zend Licence (which is similar to QPL). As we know of QPL, all developer's seem to be e

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Zeev Suraski
Hope is always a good thing :) There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to extend it. Zeev At 19:30 4/5/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: >Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > It's in everyone's interest to keep the API intact. The Zend API is now > > fairly stable (I don't exp

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Sterling Hughes wrote: > On Fri, 4 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > > so we can now hope for a reference documentation now? ;) > Sure, go ahead and write some! ;) AFAIR someone told someone else not to do so (a long time ago) as this was already taken care of ;) -- Hartmut Holzgraefe [EMA

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: > Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > > It's in everyone's interest to keep the API intact. The Zend API is now > > fairly stable (I don't expect compatibility breaking changes in the 4.0 > > line); Judging from the experience of PHP 3.0, there too, the API >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Zeev Suraski wrote: > > It's in everyone's interest to keep the API intact. The Zend API is now > fairly stable (I don't expect compatibility breaking changes in the 4.0 > line); Judging from the experience of PHP 3.0, there too, the API > stabilized around x.0.5. so we can now hope for a refe

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Zeev Suraski
It's in everyone's interest to keep the API intact. The Zend API is now fairly stable (I don't expect compatibility breaking changes in the 4.0 line); Judging from the experience of PHP 3.0, there too, the API stabilized around x.0.5. Zeev At 18:29 4/5/2001, Brian Foddy wrote: >A small poin

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Brian Foddy wrote: > ... and get better notified when they do occur? they have occured on every release but 4.0.3 now so you should expect new releases to *not* be binary compatible to old extensions for now IMHO -- Hartmut Holzgraefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.six.de +49-711-99091-77 --