Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Belisar Hoxholli
In this discussion it seems like there are no undecided people who can vote. This is an internal FIG issue as it relates to Paul's membership in the group. Sure everybody who was interested in the subject, now has an overview of this. Someone from FIG needs to step in and just put an end to thi

Re: Input on the Paul M Jones thread.

2016-07-05 Thread 'scott molinari' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group
Ok. Here goes then. It is interesting how my question was responded to: "No limitations" and "the only restriction". Not quite the same answer. No problem though. It actually leads me perfectly to what I want to point out. Theoretically, I could have looked in the bylaws of the FIG to see if

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Alessandro Lai
This discussion will not linger indefinitely, there is a two weeks expiration date set up, that is approaching. This expiration did not came out of thin air, is the standard pre-vote discussion duration here in the FIG, and Paul himself was very vocal about being strict in this matter, as many h

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Glenn Eggleton
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 6:53:04 AM UTC-4, Alessandro Lai wrote: > > This discussion will not linger indefinitely, there is a two weeks > expiration date set up, that is approaching. > This expiration did not came out of thin air, is the standard pre-vote > discussion duration here in the FI

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Gregory Wilson
For those who are wondering why Paul has not responded so far, he posted this on his twitter account: *pmjones* To all @phpfig waiting for my response: the prosecution had multiple weeks to prepare. I've had ~1 week. You'll get my response in due time. 7/1/16, 1:44 PM

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Keith Casey
I agree with the large majority of people on this thread. Paul’s obsession with another person on this list is bizarre. I’ve witnessed numerous blog posts, dozens of attacking tweets, attempts to get others to dog pile, sexualized attacks, references in podcasts, and an ongoing campaign to end

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Roman Tsjupa
Keith, can you elaborate on the topic of "sexualized attacks" ? On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Keith Casey wrote: > I agree with the large majority of people on this thread. > > Paul’s obsession with another person on this list is bizarre. I’ve > witnessed numerous blog posts, dozens of attacki

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
> On 05 Jul 2016, at 16:08, Keith Casey wrote: > > I agree with the large majority of people on this thread. > > Paul’s obsession with another person on this list is bizarre. I’ve witnessed > numerous blog posts, dozens of attacking tweets, attempts to get others to > dog pile, sexualized att

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Phil Sturgeon
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 3:25:27 PM UTC+1, Dracony wrote: > > Keith, can you elaborate on the topic of "sexualized attacks" ? > Keith is going on about the time I called Paul a tosser. Americans like to play etymologist when they hear a British person using a word they don't understand, an

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Jeremy Kendall
*TL;DR*: I could not disagree with this course of action more strenuously, I feel it has and will continue to cause real damage to FIG and to the PHP community, and it appears obvious to me that this is a result of a difference in personalities rather than the attempt to expel a truly toxic, da

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Paul Jones
Dear Voting Representatives, My name is Paul M. Jones; I am one of the founders of this group. Along with Nate Abele, I am the longest continuously-serving Voting Representative in the FIG, and by some measures the most productive person here. My seven years of commitment and dedication to the

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread James Watts
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 7:57:49 PM UTC+2, pmjones wrote: > > Dear Voting Representatives, > > My name is Paul M. Jones; I am one of the founders of this group.

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Michael Cullum
Hi James, I think we're all aware that kind of response doesn't add constructively to the discussion so I've put you on moderation queue for one week, any further constructive posts will be approved but further such posts will result in a general removal of posting permissions. -- Michael Cullum

Re: Membership Request: Bernhard Rusch (Pimcore)

2016-07-05 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
> On 14 Jun 2016, at 19:59, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > > >> On 14 Jun 2016, at 19:57, Bernhard Rusch wrote: >> >> Thanks :) >> We don't have a sponsor at the moment - would you like to support us? > > I would prefer if maybe someone sponsors your application that knows you > personally (or

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Samantha Quiñones
I will briefly reiterate purpose of this thread. This action is not about Paul vs the secretaries, nor is it about Paul vs any individual in the community, nor is it about Paul's character in general. This organization, which Michael and I serve as secretaries, has been asked for an opportunit

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Chris Johnson
Did any of the "complainants" speak with Mr. Jones either in person or via the telephone*, before registering their complaints with the Secretaries? Generally the best way to handle personal issues with another individual is to address it with that individual personally and privately. Example:

Re: Membership Request: Bernhard Rusch (Pimcore)

2016-07-05 Thread Michael Cullum
Lukas, The two week discussion start is slightly information and it could be considered jt essentially started at the beginning of this topic I'd say but it's perhaps better to still give it at least a week, if not a full two weeks now more of discussion now he has a formal proposer. If anyone obj

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Brandon Lamb
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 1:08:34 PM UTC-7, Samantha Quiñones wrote: > > I will briefly reiterate purpose of this thread. > > This action is not about Paul vs the secretaries, nor is it about Paul vs > any individual in the community, nor is it about Paul's character in > general. This organi

AW: Membership Request: Bernhard Rusch (Pimcore)

2016-07-05 Thread Bernhard Rusch
@ Lukas: Thanks for getting back and sponsoring my application! Great! Since we are not in a hurry, it's perfectly fine for me to give it another 2 weeks for discussion. Thanks again! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: php-fig@googlegroups.com [mailto:php-fig@googlegroups.com] Im Auftr