Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-09 Thread Paul Jones
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 16:28, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > > So I leave you with this: suggest an alternative remedy to the issues brought > up in this thread. As Anthony notes, the complainants (of whom Anthony is one) have not suggested any alternative remedies. So, in the spirit of conciliation

Re: The CLI interface PSR brainstorm

2016-07-09 Thread Daniel Plainview
> I am very aware of the difference, in fact I was talking about different proposals, while starting from a baseline abstraction. Well, still, I'm not sure how these two different concepts may have the same "baseline abstraction". Even if interfaces for command message and for CLI command would

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-09 Thread Anthony Ferrara
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Michael Cullum wrote: > Hi all, > > Over the past 8 weeks, we [the secretaries] have had a number of voting > members, former project representatives and well known community members > alike approach us regarding a situation they believe is being detrimental > to

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-09 Thread Larry Garfield
On 07/09/2016 02:52 AM, 'scott molinari' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group wrote: In other words, the FIG as an organization, can't show Paul his wrong doing, because there is nothing to go by other than personal opinion. The FIG also can't just vote a member out of the mailing list, beca

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-09 Thread Brandon Lamb
@Michael Cullum - First, acknowledging this could come across as "inciteful", but not the intent - Curious about this point, as for me (just my opinion) it would further discredit this entire discussion and group Question: Did all of the members in your original post all reach out to the secr

Github Permissions Update

2016-07-09 Thread Michael Cullum
Hi all, I've just done a bit of updating with regards to github permissions. Those who should have access to things (Ping me if you don't): - Every Draft or Review PSR has it's sponsor, editor and coordinator with write access to php-fig/fig-standards, so long as they are voting repr

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-09 Thread 'scott molinari' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group
> > Quite honestly, I have not seen a CoC that would cover what is currently > being discussed to a degree of certainty sufficient to have a clear guide > line how to react. I'd suggest, make an new rules for the current situation only. You don't need to cover all eventualities for civil cond

Re: The CLI interface PSR brainstorm

2016-07-09 Thread Stefano Torresi
Il giorno sab 9 lug 2016 alle ore 14:43 Daniel Plainview < daniel.pla...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > like a generic CommandBus rather than a CLI specific one > Please, don't mix up things. CommandBus has nothing to do with CLI > Command. > I am very aware of the difference, in fact I was talking a

Re: The CLI interface PSR brainstorm

2016-07-09 Thread Daniel Plainview
> like a generic CommandBus rather than a CLI specific one Please, don't mix up things. CommandBus has nothing to do with CLI Command. CLI Command is just UI detail exactly like HTTP controllers. They are not place for business logic. This problem is already known as https://en.wikipedia.org/wik

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-09 Thread Roman Tsjupa
One thing where the vote might be usesful is as a display of opinion even without a bylaw. E.g. if 80% if people in a group dont like you, there is really no pount in staying. But i dont think that people who want Paul out are even 30% od the group On Jul 9, 2016 12:32, "Lukas Kahwe Smith" wrote:

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-09 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
regards, Lukas > On 09 Jul 2016, at 09:52, 'scott molinari' via PHP Framework Interoperability > Group wrote: > > On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 1:30:03 AM UTC+2, Christopher Pitt wrote: >> >>> Finally, to the complainants: you wanted to hang me, so start tying the >>> noose and call the vote

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-09 Thread 'scott molinari' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group
On Saturday, July 9, 2016 at 1:30:03 AM UTC+2, Christopher Pitt wrote: > > Finally, to the complainants: you wanted to hang me, so start tying the >> noose and call the vote. >> > That is uncalled for. Asking for something to be addressed/discussed is in > no way a desire to hang you. This state